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Congratulation Muttiah Muralitharan

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comment by gvgavo (U14420016)

posted Jul 22, 2010

Congratulations Murali

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Congratulations

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Yes, Mr Murali...what a legend. Well done!
800 reasons to smile...

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posted Jul 22, 2010

What an acheivement! With less tests these days will anyone beat this record?

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posted Jul 22, 2010

comment by PompeyMeowth (U5450717)

The closest guy right playing right now is Harbhajan and he only needs some 400 odd wickets to overcome Murali's record.

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Congratulations

glad for him.. nice bloke and thoroughly deserved..
what more? he is a tamilian, married a girl from chennai and plays for CSK.. so really glad as a fellow tamil and a chennaite!

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Congratulations <magic>
Great guy, great bowler.

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Dirk, i'm sure he's crying himself to sleep every night knowing that you don't rate his action!

Congrats to Murali on an astonishing achievement!

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posted Jul 22, 2010

A great achievement. I grew up in the 60s and 70s and everyone went on about Freddie Trueman's 307 wickets - 800 is unbelievable.

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Mahela Jayawardene has taken 77 catches off Murali's bowling which is a world record.

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posted Jul 22, 2010

i could get wickets against teams like bangladesh

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Why do you all talk as if you know Murali and as if he reads these threads! Great bowler and a good achievement but I agree with Dirk, he has taken many wickets against lesser sides and I think it's wrong that he has taken more wikcets than Warney and I just hope people realise Shane Warne is the best bowler evr not Murali

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comment by Silk (U1717598)

posted Jul 22, 2010

"i could get wickets against teams like bangladesh"

Never had any trouble getting them against England, either.

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posted Jul 22, 2010

A legend.

The greatest spinner of all-time!!

800 wickets will never be broken!

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Well done, I doubt that record will ever be broken.

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posted Jul 22, 2010

bowled_over_for_george (U14550603)

against india which many would regard as the best players of spin bowling mura has far far far better stats than warne pretty much failed every time against.

Warne also played in the greatest team ever, he could afford to struggle against Bowler X as they had 4 more bowlers who could win games and give Warne a rest when he was struggling.

It is easier playing in the best teams.

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posted Jul 22, 2010

what they need now is a batting collapse and for mural to hit a six to win with 9 down.

what a legend, a fairy tail ending worthy of him.

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Congrats Murali. Always thought you were awesome. What an achievement!

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posted Jul 22, 2010

How can you say that our kid!!

That is a ludacris statement! Warne was playing in a team with the greatest bowling attack in the world, people like Lee, Mcgrath and Gillespie who were always taking wickets themselves therefore reducing potential wickets that Warne could have taken. On the other hand, Murali was and pretty much is a one man bowling attack and no one else was able to take wickets whereas he was, therefore he would always pick up more wickets. This is why your comment is completely wrong and false!

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posted Jul 22, 2010

bowled_over_for_george
then why do you write here as if you know cricket and both warne and murali reads these threads???

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Here we go again!

My dad

No my dad

No my dad.

etc.

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comment by Silk (U1717598)

posted Jul 22, 2010

bowled_over_for_george - It's easier to take MORE wickets when you've got poor bowlers around you.

It's a LOT harder to take wickets cheaply.

Because the batsmen are under no pressure to score off you, and they are well set and make bigger scores.

This is why, IMHO, Hadlee was the greatest Test bowler ever.

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posted Jul 22, 2010

there will always be a large number of people in cricket who baically say Murali's record doesn't count. I am sure he was a good bowler etc. but this one has to be taken alongside England's win in SA when Cronje was captain and both sides forfeited the first innings and other such questionable happenings.

Murali has taken 800 wickets - no he hasn't I'm afraid

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posted Jul 22, 2010

bowled_over_for_george (U14550603)

Simple look at the stats against India first

2nd when other players are taking wickets it helps you, because new batsmen are coming in and having to get their eye in and as a winning team you tend to have to bowl teams out twice. The poor teams will struggle to get the opportunity to take that many wickets.

Malcolm Marshall, Trueman, Warne you look at most of the record wicket takers of their time played in great teams.

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comment by Silk (U1717598)

posted Jul 22, 2010

"Murali has taken 800 wickets - no he hasn't I'm afraid"

Er, yes, he has.

You can look it up.

"Murali chucks" is opinion.

"Murali took 800 Test wickets" is fact

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posted Jul 22, 2010

if you consider playing against spin bowling then 90's england and windies weren't that great compared to Bangladesh..

So murali's bangladesh wickets cancel out against warne's wickets against england, newzeland and windies...

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Bowled sort of has a point, while you could argue that pressure from other bowlers makes it easier to take wickets, at the end of the day the bowlers in a team are in competition for a slice of the 20 wickets on offer.

Silk not really a all, it is the ease which runs are sored of a bowler that would determine that which is nothing to do with the other end, in fact you could argue that it would be easier to be cheap with rubbish from the other end as batsman would just try to block you out knowing there are runs at the other end.

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comment by tony (U6012120)

posted Jul 22, 2010

Best thing about Murali...He clearly enjoys playing.

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posted Jul 22, 2010

not bad but not as good as Warnie - if Australia had played Banghledesh as much he'd be over 900!!!

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posted Jul 22, 2010

yeah, like England's victory v SA when Hanse threw the 1st innings, or the ICC reversing Pakistan's defeat (when they didn't come out and lost the match). the record books say things, they're not necessarily true. I stand by my earlier comment

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comment by Silk (U1717598)

posted Jul 22, 2010

"Silk not really a all, it is the ease which runs are sored of a bowler that would determine that which is nothing to do with the other end, in fact you could argue that it would be easier to be cheap with rubbish from the other end as batsman would just try to block you out knowing there are runs at the other end."

I take the point.

But, whether blocking or bashing, Murali took a wicket every 55 balls.

800 times.

A S/R of 55 for a spinner is incredible, over such an extended period.

To suggest that Murali had it easier, because he was the only bowler of note in the side, is stupid.

(And it ignores Vaas and Malinga)

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Vass (a highly under rated bowler) and Malinga, compared with McGrath, Dizzy, Lee, Merv, MacGill, Lee, Reifell, Kasper, Mcdermot and Flemming!

Who is ignoring what?

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Warne is so much better. Murali took about 170 of his wickest against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. Warne only took 17 against the same teams. Imagine if Warne had played these lesser teams as much as Murali did. Warne is by far the better bowler

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Absolute legend. 800 wickets. End of.

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Why must it always degenerate into farce folks??

Can't we just form a guard of honour and salute a great cricketer ending a phenomenal career on a high?

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comment by Silk (U1717598)

posted Jul 22, 2010

Lushy - Complete ignores the fact that, even if you take out those sides, Murali got his wickets cheaper.

And Warne never had to bowl against the best side in the world. What would his record look like if he'd played 13 times against Australia, I wonder?

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Gives comfort to cheats everywhere!

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posted Jul 22, 2010

I t was Warne that made them the best side in the world

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comment by Chiraq (U14237610)

posted Jul 22, 2010

yeh but murli was horrible against the ozzys, so warne is lot better,

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comment by Silk (U1717598)

posted Jul 22, 2010

"yeh but murli was horrible against the ozzys, so warne is lot better, "

Yeh, but Warne was horrible against indians, so murali is a lot better.

What a pointless argument.

Both were all time greats. Suggesting one, or other, was clearly greater, is stupid. They were both great. If one was better, the margin was extremely small.

Anyone suggesting Murali would have got fewer wickets if he'd played for Aus, or Warne if he'd played for Sri Lanka?

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posted Jul 22, 2010

My personal belief is that Shane Warne was the best bowler and cricketer ever to walk onto the field of play. But this should not detract from what is a magnificent career, taking 800 test match wickets is a feat that was never even thought possible 10 years ago! Congrats to the little man!

Will anyone ever beat it... If it is ever done, it will be an Englishman who does it. As the only Northern Hemisphere team out of the test playing nations, we are the only team that can play tests all year, every year. So to have enough matches available to break this record, I think that man will have to play for England.

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posted Jul 22, 2010

This thread is just an appreciation of Muralitharan's fantastic achievement, which is undeniable. It doesnt matter who is better, Warne and Muttiah both added so much to spin bowling in cricket, and are both fantastic to watch. If you dont appreciate his achievement, dont come on the thread, I personally think its spectacular and am glad he reached that milestone as an admirable cricketer and person.

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posted Jul 22, 2010

there both equally great if murali was bad against aussies thewn warne was bad against india if murali took most of his wickets against bangladesh and zimbabwe then warne took most of his wickets because aussies have the best fielders in the world bowling with no pressure because such a great team and also not having to play against Hayden,Ponting,gilchrist,Hussey,martin, etc

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posted Jul 22, 2010

bowled_over_for_george

Buy the same rationale, while Murali was taking Aussie wickets at a time when theirs was the greatest batting line up in the world, Warne DID NOT TAKE ONE Aussie wicket.

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posted Jul 22, 2010

y r ppl so quik 2 slate a cricket legend he's a joy 2 watch fantastic bowler and the facts dont like he has took 800 test wickets however u wanna look at it stop hatin let the man have his glory all u depressed moaners give it up u think your so clever coming up with stupid reasons about y he hasn't just reached 800 its pathetic

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posted Jul 22, 2010

i still feel that Warne is the greatest bowler. Murali took over 100 wickets against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, whereas Warne took barely any...

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posted Jul 22, 2010

Murali a legend, I think not!!

A dubious, shall we say, bowling action that if it had been any player from outside the sub continent would have been banned.

Murali will never and should never be considered a great of the game, his records should have an asterix and be taken with a huge pinch of salt!!

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