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Live - World Cup day 11

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comment by matth7 (U14500146)

posted Jun 21, 2010

Spain smiley

Portugal smiley

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comment by Noshaq (U11522369)

posted Jun 21, 2010

Hope the meeting went well. They all need to wake up and smell the World Cup.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Hopp Schwiiz!

Derdiyok and Behrami to score against Chile today and Switzerland topping group H with 6 points after 2 games!

Our defense is as tight as Swiss banking secrecy, the low temperatures shouldn't be of concern to us, and after all, we're the greatest little country in the world! smiley

Come on Switzerland!

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posted Jun 21, 2010

History repeats itself it's the saltillo affair all over again although this time it's happening to the French and, to lesser a extend, the English national team instead of the Portuguese one.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

The link to this thread on the main 606 page is going to some random blokes profile! Can't see many responses here until that's fixed...

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Been searching for this page for over an hour now.Who at the Beeb is responsible for such incompetence?grr

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Yes..something is wrong...clicking dat 11 going to to a profile some one jeez i think ! I might be wrong ...but something is wrong !

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Please Ronaldo - Do NOT get a YELLOW card otherwise he would miss the mouth-watering match vs Brazil on Friday.

Already no Kaka!

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posted Jun 21, 2010

sorry guys, my bad! It's been a busy weekend footballfan winkeye

All sorted now and linked off main page
cheers

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posted Jun 21, 2010

thank u Jez ok can't wait for kickoff !!! hope North Korea gives good fight....

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Well the World Cup has finally warmed up.Hope the three matches today will continue that trend.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Del Bosque ruled Iniesta out of the starting team yesterday. He said he'd be fit enough to play if it was a crucial game (hello - isn't it?), but that he won't risk him today.

He only looks likely to play some minutes if Spain are desperate.

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comment by Noshaq (U11522369)

posted Jun 21, 2010

I'm still bemused by this....
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A survey of over 50 global football experts, from more than 20 nations, has been conducted by the BBC Sport website to produce a predicted World Cup top four.
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England were predicted to finish 4th. Who were the global experts?

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Why is everyone complaining about Kaka being sent off. Yes, the Ivorian reacted stupidly by grabbing his face, but Kaka definitely swung an elbow at him (hit him in the chest, not the face). And if the ref thought Kaka had hit him, it should have been a straight red, not a second yellow.
Kaka and some of his team mates behaved pretty poorly in the second half - never seem Brazilians do that before.
And as for the cheating for the second goal (a push and TWO handballs) - if that had been any other nation we would all be up in arms (no pun intended) about it and demanding the player be disciplined.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

haha that was my thread because the stupid bbc monkeys didnt even make the article.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

England were predicted to finish 4th. Who were the global experts?

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Paul Ince, Ian Wright, Matt Le Tissier and Paul Merson were amongst them.

Probably.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

am I the only one who prefer the Premier league to this World Cup. I am happy with all the player who decided to stay behind.

And what was the referee asking Fabiano after the second goal?

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posted Jun 21, 2010

On the Kaka incident, there is just one angle that suggest that although Kaka did very little, it is possible that Keito's head did fall forward and catch Kaka's shoulder.

Neither are innocent but I'm tempted to think that the whole thing isn't quite how it is being dressed up.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

lol

ian wright is one of these clowns who thinks his son deserves a 100k a week contract at man city hence why he was pushed out of the team in favour of adam johnson

ian wright is also one of these blind fools who thinks wayne rooney is the best striker in the world above,

torres
drogba
eto'o
milito
villa
van persie


what a thick clown laugh

just looking at him, you see how much of a joke he is.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

am I the only one who prefer the Premier league to this World Cup. I am happy with all the player who decided to stay behind.
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No WC has got different charm, doesn't matter low scoring games and some stupid referring etc...So I won't compare league and WC ok

And what was the referee asking Fabiano after the second goal?
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Ref was asking Fabiano that, did it hurt him when he controlled Jabulani with his hand whistle !

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posted Jun 21, 2010

At every single World Cup I can remember, thereís always some belly-aching about the ball being lighter and more unpredictable than ever, but the sheer weirdness of this tourney's performances leads me for the first time to wonder whether itís true.

Iíve noticed a new kind of goal being scored at this World Cup ó three instances (two Brazilian) of a player blasting from an acute angle. It struck me that this maximises the vertical tolerance of a shot (it gives you a lot of roof to aim at), even while minimising the horizontal tolerance (i.e. width of the goal). The accuracy width-wise has never been a problem, but every ball has ballooned over the top, so such an approach would make sense.

I just could not understand why Luis Fabiano would blast the ball so from such an angle, but this seems to answer it.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

footballfan

am I the only one who prefer the Premier league to this World Cup. I am happy with all the player who decided to stay behind.
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No WC has got different charm, doesn't matter low scoring games and some stupid referring etc...So I won't compare league and WC

And what was the referee asking Fabiano after the second goal?
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Ref was asking Fabiano that, did it hurt him when he controlled Jabulani with his hand !
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If he says it didn't hurt his hand, will Adidas try and use this as a positive in marketing?

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Best world cup ever, England France in complete Turmoil, and then there is the football which is not half bad either...... loving it..

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Kaka HIT? That was a n arm out out to stop the guys obvious trying to run into him It's so blatantly obvious that it was the Ivorians intent run into Kaka. Watch it again. there's no elbow. He just puts his arm up. The LF goal is preceded by a handball by one of the defenders so it would have been a penalty anyway. there is no way that the whole world is saying it was an awful red card especially considering the amount of over the ball, stud-up challenges the Ivory coast made that went unpunished and should have seen red, as they were professional fouls.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

And what was the referee asking Fabiano after the second goal?
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Ref was asking Fabiano that, did it hurt him when he controlled Jabulani with his hand !
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If he says it didn't hurt his hand, will Adidas try and use this as a positive in marketing?

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NO, their rivals will pick this point before addiddas and will start making ££$$ winkeye

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posted Jun 21, 2010

I would like to know where Fifa tested the ball.

It seems to me they tested it in an area of non altitude & sea-level surroundings.

Pathetic!

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comment by vin103 (U14527831)

posted Jun 21, 2010

The "simulation" of Keita of Ivory Coast was an absolute disgrace. If FIFA do not cancel Kaka's red card AND punish Keita, then they get the player behaviour they deserve.

The same can be applied to shirt pulling. I have no problem with lots of penalties being awarded for foul play. Like most things in life, once you get away with cheating you will keep on cheating. Once you start applying penalties then people will change their behaviour.

Ellano was very lucky he did not have his leg broken. How this challenge was not punished with a red card is appalling, when you see what other actions are readily given red cards. For this state of affairs you have to put a lot of blame on FIFA, as they have the power to sort this sort of thing out.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

oneroundjack

The BBC had Craig Johnston on over the weekend. You may recall he is the ex-Liverpool player who invented Predator boots and has undertaken a lot of work about aerodynamics and ball flight etc

He was saying that the ball being made of fewer panels means it is smoother and thus less drag is created if you try and kick the ball in a cultured way. This may go some way to explaining the number of times a pass or free kick has gone haywire because the ball behaves differently to normal.

It then follows that if you smack the ball in a straight line then it should rocket, as you have said with those goals, other than a small amount of drag and the density of air that it travels through.

It all made sense I think. Whilst he wasn't being necessarily over critical, the way he was talking suggests that he doesn't work for Adidas any more!

He was concluding that more skillful players have less of an advantage when trying to be clever with a ball.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

I hope Del Bosque plays Fabregas. Iniesta is ruled out, surely Cesc is the best replacement for him in the starting lineup? Especially with the season Cesc has had.

You never know with Del Bosque though. He should have brought Fabregas on as a sub when Spain were running out of ideas in their match against the Swiss. No idea why he kept him on the bench and brought on two guys who provided absolutely nothing to the game.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

I have to say, I was really impressed by Terry yesterday. He was brutally honest, and that's a good thing. I'm glad the team had a talk yesterday, much better than murmuring frustrations to the media - why not just cooperate? Much better than the tactics used by the French squad anyway.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Im looking forward for another upset in this WC... Spain to crah out early in the K-O stage? Chile or Mexico to win the WC? Who is going to be the next shameless chater to walk in the light?

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comment by em614 (U11929459)

posted Jun 21, 2010

lol. Why is the BBC report for IC vs. Brazil saying 'hint' of handball - it's not objective at all. There was a handball.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Keita was not Simulating, if you watch the replay you can see that the momentum with which he collides with Kaka causes his head to hit Kaka's. i.e he goes down holding his face because he just collided heads with Kaka, not the elbow in the chest.

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comment by Noshaq (U11522369)

posted Jun 21, 2010

Lampard press conference now on.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

because, they are told not make the tournament look bad.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Whether Keita was simulating or not, it's lunacy to deny that Kaka deserved a second yellow. Let's remember that he wasn't shown a straight red. He flicked out his elbow at Keita - it was blatant and deliberate.

Histrionics or not, he deserved to go.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Portugal work similarly to Brazil - solid defence, holding midfielder/s and then allow the front players to be creative - however, Brazil are better at it, and struggled against NK, I fancy NK to get a point from this, unless Ronaldo's brilliance comes through.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Please Ronaldo, do NOT get a YELLOW card!

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Quiet here this morning, too quiet, hmmm, anyone predict shocks today? How about Chile Honduras and Korea all to win today? Wouldn't that be fun?

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comment by Robdg (U11203545)

posted Jun 21, 2010

I just realized, if we finish first in our group we'll probably face Serbia.

After that, we face the winner of:

Uruguay - South Korea

And after that, we face the winner of:

Holland - Italy
Brazil - Spain


However, if we finish second in the group, we'll play Germany, and the winner of Argentina - Mexico afterwards.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

I have to say, I was really impressed by Terry yesterday. He was brutally honest, and that's a good thing. I'm glad the team had a talk yesterday, much better than murmuring frustrations to the media

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Skysports are saying they didn't have the talk because 'it wouldn't have gone down with Capello'.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

Lelinho, are you deranged? Or is it simply that you're a one-eyed Brazil supporter? There's no doubt that this average Brazil side deserved to beat CIV but you must have seen the double hand-ball by LF before he scored. It was definitely not a CIV defender that handballed in the leadup to the 2nd goal. The ref was pictured pointing to his arm while having a cosy chat with LF straight after the goal. Not to worry, your defence is so poor, you'll be found out by better sides and you have The Incredible Sulk, Robinho up front (I think his mum would be a better pick for Dunga).

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comment by RAF (U13830415)

posted Jun 21, 2010

goodluck Spain & Portugal.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

We all follow United

I have to say, I was really impressed by Terry yesterday. He was brutally honest, and that's a good thing. I'm glad the team had a talk yesterday, much better than murmuring frustrations to the media

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Skysports are saying they didn't have the talk because 'it wouldn't have gone down with Capello'.
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Don't you wish the media would shut up about with their self important opinions from 'insiders'?

I've seen reports from six different media outlets this morning and none of them seem to know or agree on what really happened yesterday but there are pages and pages or reports etc saying what they think.

You know what, I don't care what they think, I just want the manager to manage and for them to play like we know they can.

Is that too much to ask?

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posted Jun 21, 2010

After watching the Frank Lampard press conference, it looks like Terry never said a word in their meeting with Fabio last night. Really impressed with the way Frank spoke and with the way he played everything down.


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posted Jun 21, 2010

Personally, I would kick all the reporters out of the team hotel. They don't need to be there to make up stuff, they can do that elsewhere.

I am hoping Korea get a decent result today. It's been nice seeing the less hyped sides do well (NZ, Oz, both Korean sides, etc), though maybe less so Algeria and Slovenia.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

I just want the manager to manage and for them to play like we know they can.

Is that too much to ask?

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At the moment, yes!

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posted Jun 21, 2010

This is when SKY are at their worst. They have god knows how many reporters in South Africa and no live football to show so need to find a story from somewhere.

I suppose it doesn't help though when one of our senior players can't keep his mouth shut about things that should stay in house.

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posted Jun 21, 2010

MrBlueBurns (U7545281)

I agree entirely.

I'd like to think that if I ever worked in football journalism (hardly likely but go with it), that I'd prioritise the interests of our national side over the agenda of undermining them in the undignified scrap for ratings/circulation.

I guess that's (one of the reasons) why I'll never be a football journalist!

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