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HUGE HUGE MISTAKE!!!!!! AND NOT THE FIRST

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posted Jun 3, 2010

What i cant understand - is if they sacked Rafa on the basis of Stevie G not wanting Rafa there anymore then couldnt they of asked Gerrard that question like.... 3 weeks ago?

ie - when the Juve thing was going on? We could've said "Sure, go ahead, go to Juve. Then Juve pay us compensation!"

Instead he's now going to be footloose and fancy free with 3mil in his pocket of our cash that could've gone towards a new player.

It seems like the board didnt think it through (what a surprise) and now another club will get a manager without any compensation needing to be paid.

We get worse by the day sadface

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posted Jun 3, 2010

16m is only payable should Rafa not walk into another job within the time of the current contract. Thats not very likely now is it unless he plans on retiring. Why does everyone go on about 16million........

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posted Jun 3, 2010

No one wants to buyt the club with a muppet as manager. So the payoff makes sense

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Gerrard and senior players did NOT want Rafa out. They wanted Rafa to stay. They likes of Torres and Gerrard had a good relationship. Gerrard and Rafa had a 20min chat on his birthday.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Yet again Super stevie me's ego has cost the mighty LFC. Oh when will you learn, I said two years ago that he should have gone before he caused any more problems but here he still is and more trouble he is causing. He is bigger than the club therefore allowed to run it the way he chooses. LFC will now go backwards and Gerrard will jump ship anyway. Good luck next year and the following few seasons in the championship. All thanks to your loyal captain.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Stop putting the blame on other people!!

My god its Gerrard, No Torres, Its Babel, No Parry, No Keane, No Big Sam, No its Alonso, Crouch, Pennant, The Press, Ferguson..............

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

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posted Jun 3, 2010

A bit of advice from Chelsea fan, Benitez is a joke, he stands on the touchline doing strange Mason like gestures,acts as if he hasnt got a clue,and generally confirms that view.
You would be better making Sammy your manager,at least better than that joker.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

1. Rafa stay = No EPL for Liverpool FC
2. Rafa stay = More fall-outs (players, staff)
3. Rafa stay = More confusion
4. Rafa stay = Lack of investments
5. Rafa stay = No guaranteed success

1. Rafa has tried his best but fact of the matter is that he has taken LFC as far as he possibly can. He has been given the chance, he came close and evidently cracked up.

2. Rafa falls out with too many people and this is just not at club, but lets be honest there have been fall outs with players, staff and board. Whoever falls out with Rafa gets chopped in one way or another.

3. There is just too much confusion at the club at the moment that even some of the players didn't know what was going on both on and off the pitch. Where is this ship headed? Is it any surprise that they are linked with other clubs and are waiting till after the world cup before making decisions?

4. Who wants to invest in a club where there is so much confusion and the manager is at the centre demanding more power for his failures. Investors will look at how Rafa has fallen out with players, his staff and the board. They will look at the trophies 05/06 and lack of trophies 07 to date and ask genuine questions without emotions. What if Rafa turns against them?

5. There is no guarantee that Rafa can bring success to the club. He inherited a decent side, made it better and had some success (CL + FA Cup) but broke it up and cracked up. Fact that we have not won any trophies and kept getting knocked out of all competitions says a lot.

Lets be honest, Rafa has tried and we appreciate what he has done but he has taken the club as far as he can and he knows it. A lot of people have being blind and never saw this coming as this was what Rafa wanted all along. This has always being the best scenario for Rafa so those who love him more than the club should be happy they got their wish. He basically puts in a mediocre performance and gets fired, gets his compensation and joins another club lacing blame on lack of funds for not winning the EPL.

Rafa, could screw the club even more if he stays during or after the WC. If our best players have a decent WC they will be in demand and will be more tempted to leave knowing that Rafa will still be in charge. Rafa will want to use the funds to start another five year project of failure asking for more funds and time for success which is not guaranteed.

Rafa is not bigger than the club and he is not the best manager to have managed the club. If not for his CL success in 05 and getting us to another CL final he would have just been an average manager easily forgotten. The club and its history speaks for itself. Rafa has helped us but Rafa now needs help. He needs his P45 asap. His decisions this season has shown that he is not fully committed to the club and what has happened to the club as a result is just a taste of dangers to come if Rafa is in charge.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Big, Big shame.
He was so popular at OT
applause

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posted Jun 3, 2010

2. Rafa falls out with too many people and this is just not at club, but lets be honest there have been fall outs with players, staff and board. Whoever falls out with Rafa gets chopped in one way or another

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There was one fall out. Riera. Give me sources. I have sources.

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comment by Yarek (U8861498)

posted Jun 3, 2010

Glad that Rafa has gone and I'm not jumping on any bandwagon. Since his first days of tinkering with the team, dropping players who were on form I've said that I didn't think he was the right man for the job.

I totally agree with luvalotti, Benitez is a joke. Now, if we get someone like Martin O'Neill in there then I will be very happy indeed. He's shown again at Villa that he knows how to buy young exciting talent and build a team from the ground up.

Please Santa, can I have my Christmas present early and give me O'Neill and new owners :P Ok, that's maybe a bit much to ask.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

I hope O'Neill holds out for the United job in 2 years time. I fear he would do well at Liverpool, which would be annoying.

Harry Redknapp?
Roy Hodgson?

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Agent Rafa you have performed your job delightfully, you will now be awarded a full pension and retirement package from manchester united football club.

As for liverpool's next manager well we will wait and see not sure who would want to take them over

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posted Jun 3, 2010

'Big, Big shame.
He was so popular at OT'

laugh

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Thanks Rafa.

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comment by jvignes (U9045813)

posted Jun 3, 2010

RE:YarekBalear (U8861498) - Yes, if O'Neill comes he would definitely buy English, but at the same time you wont get world class players like Torres, Mach wanting to play under him. I would like to see Hiddink or Van Gaal taking over.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Some scousers still supporting him I see, as one of your main rivals I'm sorry to see him go, very sorry actually, I think that says it all. Whether he is a poor manager or not isn't the question, but he was taking you lot nowhere, fast.

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comment by Simba (U3196220)

posted Jun 3, 2010

Mind the door on the way out fella.. oh well, maybe Liverpool will win the title now he has gone.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Ownership problems aside, Rafa has caused his own downfall.

Even with the players we have, 7th place, elimination in the group stage of the CL, elimination from the FA Cup, elimination from the Carling Cup, and failure to be bold enough to take out lower-ranked teams has caused the problems.

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comment by james (U3427937)

posted Jun 3, 2010

I feel for Liverpool ever since you were sold it was a real sold down the river I hope very soon the pair of well you know what to call them sell your club back to people who care about your club

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posted Jun 3, 2010

2. Rafa falls out with too many people and this is just not at club, but lets be honest there have been fall outs with players, staff and board. Whoever falls out with Rafa gets chopped in one way or another

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There was one fall out. Riera. Give me sources. I have sources.

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There was a Spanish guy wasn't there, think he plays for Madrid now.

How about the second in command, you know, left right around the time form started to dip.

How about multiple backroom staff......

and on and on and on

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posted Jun 3, 2010

What a difference a year makes.

Bye Rafa.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

I think Rafa quit - just looks better to have Mutal Consent - as Liverpool didnt want him + couldnt afford to keep paying him
£3-5m seems fair in such a case
No doubt Rafa will have a job elsewhere before the start of next season

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Re: comment by LostmekecksintheGmex (U2967055)
posted 3 Minutes Ago

I hope O'Neill holds out for the United job in 2 years time. I fear he would do well at Liverpool, which would be annoying.

Harry Redknapp?
Roy Hodgson?
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Roy Hodgson's Fulham finished 12th this season, 5 places down from the season before (sound familiar?) and were it not for his run in the Europa where they were finally found out in the final, he would have probably been in fear of losing his job too. Fulham were far worse this season than last when their defence was as good as anyones.

Harry Redknapp will never move North as he loves living in Millionaires Row in Poole too much. He will always stay at a club he can commute to. (Hopefully England one day.)

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comment by Simba (U3196220)

posted Jun 3, 2010

Who could possibly follow him? hmmm Peter Reid, David O'Leary, Paul Ince. hahahaha

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posted Jun 3, 2010

I hope that Liverpool do NOT manage to find a replacement for Kenny Dalglish and he has to stay as manager.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Didn't he go 99 games without repeating the same starters?

It's amazing what one cup, built on someone else's squad and rescued by one player, could do for your legacy.

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comment by max (U10269799)

posted Jun 3, 2010

I have never seen any manager who in spite of failures demand more powers from the club...

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Rafa has always reminded me of a crazy girlfriend I once dated. Five days of the week it was complete bliss, then the remaining two days was like a living hell. Same applies to Rafa's football methods. Just when you think it's going so well, he throws in a curve ball, and you think "What the ****". I do like the guy and he is still a good manager but the feeling has not been right for a good six months, and sometimes that's all it needs. Yes there have been some great performances and Instanbul was something special but there have been too many issues on the whole. I wish him all the best, but it's time for a change on and off the pitch.

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comment by hawick (U3319534)

posted Jun 3, 2010

Rafa overall did a very good job and his Cup triumphs at home and in Europe mean he leaves a fine legacy.

However..... now Liverpool can move on. Hopefully the new manager will be more positive about trying to win the league. Not removing strikers when games are tight for example.

Not Martin O'Neill please if that is to be the case - but I see he is 6/4 with the bookies.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

For the people wanting Hiddink to take over, this is what he said after being linked with the more prestigious Inter job -

"Guus Hiddink has ruled himself out of contention to coach Inter next season, according to his agent. The Dutchman, who recently opted to become Turkey coach, is one of the candidates for the post left vacant by Josť Mourinho's departure for Real Madrid.

"Inter asked me last week if Hiddink could be a candidate for the Nerazzurri hot seat," said Hiddink's agent Cees van Niewenhuizen to Italian TV Telelombardia. "They told me that he was the number one candidate on the list.

"I replied that it is impossible because Hiddink has only just started his experience with the Turkish federation and he will not go to the federation and ask them to be freed from his contract. Hiddink wants to respect his contract."

Probably best to look elsewhere ok

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comment by max (U5144507)

posted Jun 3, 2010

I must say I find it hard to understand the LFC fans liking Benitez. He has made poor signings and sold good players. Won the champs league with Houlliers team and with a lot of luck and a great 45 mins by Gerrard.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

In the overall scheme of things he's been a successful manager for Liverpool with one Champions League trophy, one final and one FA Cup win, but set against Man Utd and Chelsea that's not enough. This last season has been awful and there is too much deadwood at Anfield in amongst four or five top class players. His team selections and style has been pretty bad at times and the fans were very restless. Whoever gets the job next has a hard task to restore Liverpool to where they want to be. Mark Hughes?, not loved at Anfield but a tough and capable guy.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

I'm glad Rafa is gone. And I'm probably one of the few rival fans saying this.

I think Liverpool deserve better. I felt sorry for him after you lost 3-1 to Fulham early last season, but after the season finished, I think he was a joke.

Everyone complains of him not getting enough money. He spent loads and bought in loads of flops. For every ten players he bought one good one.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

someone had to leave liverpool fc, and unfortunatly for rafa, its him.

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comment by Dan (U8176873)

posted Jun 3, 2010

Houlier and Gerard won the Champions League.

Rafa is someone who thinks 2nd place is an achievement. He is not a winner. Liverpool desperately need a winner.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

I believe that Rafa was the right man to finish the job at Anfield too. The progress of last season was a sign of things to come. Now that's all ruined sadface

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posted Jun 3, 2010

If i were a Liverpool fan i'd be praying you keep Dalglish as the permanent manager.

He won you the league three times as a manager before.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Rafa has given us some fantastic memories which we will never forget.

It will be wierd at Anfield without him but it was the right time for a change.

Would all of the boneheads from other football clubs (mainly Mancs and Bitter Blues), who are coming on here to make silly comments, kindly go for a long walk off a short pier.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Well... we need to move on now. Thanks for all he did, but our squad just didn't have a winning future under his command.
A good manager is going to be harder to find; Hiddink would be great but near impossible, as he wouldn't just walk away from his Turkey contract like that.
Van Gaal? Don't know whether he'd leave Bayern at all either but he'd get us playing more positively and will bring more youth through.
And the home-grown choice? Got to be Hodgson for me- he has worked for a big club in Inter Milan in the mid-90's after all.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Good riddance of ....

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Who else could replace him as manager of the pool? The Blackpool manager?

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posted Jun 3, 2010

lfcrules, you know very little.
£16m is a payoff if he doesnt find a job within the remainder of his contract, the £3m was just for leaving now so if Rafa gets a job next week he will only get £3m
Martin O'neil is on a 12 month rolling contract so it wont cost £6m for him

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comment by RAF (U13830415)

posted Jun 3, 2010

Curbishley maybe?

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Shame, I would have given Rafa one more season. I also find it funny that most United fans here are thanking Rafa ! lol. Lets see what kind of manager we will get now, money or no money.

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posted Jun 3, 2010

Rafa brought a lot of glory Liverpool way in recent seasons, but his downfall is that he's not as shrewd in the transfer market than other top managers in the PL and the players he has bought have not been up to Liverpool standards. The question must be will the new manager have any money to spend?

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comment by hawick (U3319534)

posted Jun 3, 2010

Some people talking here of 'progress' last season.

You've lost me. Not even a top four, out of Europe at the league stage, 'no show' in the FA Cup.

If that's 'progress' I wouldn't like to see them have a bad season!

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posted Jun 3, 2010

£109m net spend since start of 04/05 season 3rd only to man city (approx £225m) and chelsea (approx £145m) with spurs and villa 4th n 5th (approx £95m each)according to skysports news today. Yeh Benitez was a great manager. As a united fan im pretty gutted that he's gone actually.

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comment by GazCFC (U7243587)

posted Jun 3, 2010

I'm really gutted Rafa's gone, it will mean Liverpool will get a decent manager and start challenging the mighty Blues again. Come on England.

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