BBC Home

Explore the BBC

Articles/ all comments

These 745 comments are related to an article called:

The Masters: Is Your Pin Better Than Mine?

Page 1 of 15

posted Apr 7, 2010

Kwini

i mostly agree with that analysis. Although i would not rule out tiger.

Would you agree that it is very unlikely other than westwood that a European will win?

| complain about this comment

comment by Redrage (U1710671)

posted Apr 7, 2010

Another fine read. I hope it isn't too early for Nick Watney, I have backed him at 66/1 and Dustin Johnson 50/1 e/w (lets hope he is too long to be troubled too often by the odd errant drive). I just need to get some uni work out of the way today and tomorrow morning and I can relax and enjoy it all unfold.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

Hi Mac,
Just think this is Westwood's time, not necessarily this week but this next year or so. Arguably should've won Houston.
Also think Casey, when fit, has the game for The Masters and no-one can beat Luke Donald if he's driving it well, which he hasn't been.

Not sure about other Europeans for this week; don't think the hills of Augusta will be very good for Kaymer's foot, Stenson seems otherwise occupied, but expect both Molinaris to do well.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

There is something about luke donald that you would comfortably put £100 om him getting top ten any week, but winning? you wouldn't put a £1 on that.

As my GW picks suggest I think Villegas will do well and going with Americans is the way forward.

| complain about this comment

comment by Redrage (U1710671)

posted Apr 7, 2010

I agree Mac, I never consider him when I am betting. I wouldn't grudge him a decent win, but I will never be waiting to cash in on him.

If I was in his shoes, I would be looking to put on a stone of muscle in order to gain a little extra off the tee. He is an athlete, he should be able to build up his physique a little. He just seems to accept that he doesn't hit it far... which is fine if you find fairways, but he doesn't do enough of that.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

Thanks Redrage,
Of course, Lukey would say he HAS put on ten pounds of muscle. Fact is, he's not particularly straight, whether he whacks it 250 yards or 280.
Dustin Johnson grew up just a couple of hours down the road, you know HE fancies his chances!

| complain about this comment

comment by Redrage (U1710671)

posted Apr 7, 2010

Kwini - What would you do if you were Luke? New coach, bulk up a little more, a new swing or just keep practicing?

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

Rr,
I'm not sure how much he can bulk up without changing his body shape, hence his swing. The key for Donald seems to me to be to hit it straighter. Being 170th in driving distance is one thing, but only hitting 60% of the fairways (about 110th on Tour) is inexcusable.

Three years ago he was hitting 68% of fairways, so that means he's missing eight additional fairways every seven rounds. The cost of that is close to a stroke per round, given that's he's denying himself birdie opportunities.

His short game is the best in the world. And it needs to be.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

Does Tiger not count as a first time winner as he played there as an Amateur?

I would have said his first time round the track as a pro should count him in as a first-time winner.

| complain about this comment

comment by Diggers (U2300584)

posted Apr 7, 2010

Always thought Donald was a lovely long and mid iron player Kwini, like you say though he really needs to be on the short stuff to show those skills off.
Bearing in mind as he hits it short taht when he is in the rough from the tee then he's in the rough and with a long way to go still, not a great combination really.
I think Id probably be happy to see Donald win moret han any other player but as others have said I think a a place is the more likely outcome if he has a good week.
If Casey is fit, big if, then he'd be my pick of the Brits I think. He's one who could be unstopable if he won a major, imagine all that talent and all that extra confidence, could be awesome.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

Lj,
Speak to the historians!
Diggers, Agreed, about Casey (being unstoppable if he ever wins one!) as well as Donald.
McDowell is the enigma to me, he plays sooooo well and then seems to have a major brain-cramp to halt his progress, his 36th hole catastrophe at Bay Hill just the latest example. He had a really good 2008 Ryder Cup but, just like Rose, is on course to miss this one. All that talent . . . .

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

"Speak to the historians!"

I can't suffer that mob! With their tweed coats with leather patches on the elbows, huge beards and pipes! laugh

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

Great read KW

Am optimistic for a British winner. Would love to see a brit win it, failing that I would like to see Garcia win. His putting his absolute poo though, so I dont think he has a chance

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

Got a pound E/w on Stenson + Cink at 80/1 and 100/1...bargain if you ask me...2 players that ooze class winkeye
and a pound on Luke Donald to win...100/1 as well,you never know!!

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

excellent post ! best in ages.

Alot of what you said i fully agree with and finding a winner is so hard

and on sunday evening the answer will have been obvious from betting point of view

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

Great Article Kwini,

Any serious analasis of the Tournament though must involve the TW factor and i notice you are avoiding that.............to put Woods in the "no form recently" category is dubious as he hasn't played a tournament since November/December in Oz which he won and i think he was 2nd or 3rd in the Tour championship prior to that..............his "form" is unknown but who's to say he won't just go and win it.......i don't really buy this thing of having to have 4 or 5 tournaments under his belt to be competitive (For Woods anyway)

It's time to talk about the "Elephant in the room" golf wise. I don't care about the "circus"!!

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

Thanks guys,

1iamrob,
100/1 is amazing value for Cink. Not so sure about Stenson, his form has been horrible since the birth of his child. Not sure how focussed he is.

John C,
You're absolutely right, I did avoid Tdub.
Two reasons:
1).I just don't think the course sets up for him as it did five years ago, and I have explained my views on that in the past. It is pretty much set up to obviate his strengths, his power and his ability to get out of jail. And his putting the past two years at he Masters reflects that, averaging over 30 putts a round.
2).Going on about him detracts from all the other players. I reckon he'll be a solid top twenty but can't make a case for him to do much better.
I called Mickelson the winner in my start of year forecasts, but just can't see him suddenly turning on the form of last autumn.

| complain about this comment

comment by Diggers (U2300584)

posted Apr 7, 2010

Fair points re TW Kwini but lots and lots of question marks re Goosen and his ability to finish a tournament off. I like his game right now but just don't think he has the mental strength anymore. Ever since he unravelled in the 4th round of the US a few years ago, I think he lost a lot that day.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

Sandy Lyle to win.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

I think the serious questions for tiger will be how, if in contention, he overcomes the nightmares of the PGA final round last year and his putting in particular................

EmmDee, it's not the 80's..............go and listen to some Morrissey!!

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

Lyle's 100/1 to be top GB&Ire player, £2 of my cash is on that.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

McDowell was the only GB&I player to beat Lyle in last year's Masters.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

A windy first 2 days are forecast, Sandy's old school and knows how to play in the wind unlike the modern day golfer.

Looks like Duval has played his way out of winning seeing as he's leading the Par 3 event!!

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 7, 2010

Emm Dee, while i know you are being "tongue in cheek" about Lyle, Lyle finishing as 2nd top GB & I last year was more a reflection on how poorly the GB& I guys did last year...............lets face it it's about time a European took a major by the scruff of the neck like Harrington did 3 times...........i would love for Westwood to do it but there remains serious questions about him until he can bring one home when the real pressure is on..............

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

i have never been so confident about adam's chances he was hitting it well at shell houston so his form is returning

come on scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

| complain about this comment

comment by Lairdy (U2728317)

posted Apr 8, 2010

Hi kwini!

Nice article and great work on the elimination process!

I have a few links to some stats on previous Masters and Major form - hope you dont mind if I post them.

http://www.golfmagic.com/features/masters-preview-can-els-come-in-from-the-cold/6917.html

http://www.golfmagic.com/features/masters-preview-new-start-for-sergio/6918.html

the first link includes a table showing this years field's previous results at Augusta and the second link shows the average position in Majors since 2000 - poor Sergio!

Did you see the piece on majorschampionships.com about the past winners and the average appearances before their first win? The average was 7.25 appearances. Need to find a list of those competing for the 7th time!

Anyway - I fancy Kuchar and Moore to do well this week. I'd like any of the English guys to win and wouldnt mind Watney or Villegas either.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

Kwini - nice job of narrowing down the contenders. I hope Els does well this week...just hope his recent form hasn't taken too much out of him. If Casey hadn't 'slept funny' I'd also be inclined to have a tickle on him. Reports from Augusta would indicate that Woods driving is as erratic as ever - missing soem by 75 yards but I think he'll be there or thereabouts until the final day when lack of preparation may catch up with him. Of the others I'll enjoy watching, assuming the camera's can tear themselves away from Woods, will be the young Italian Matteo, Rory, Dustin Johnson, Sergio (although the faith is wearing very thin now), both Molinari's and Westwood. Ready for for tonight now.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

When you think about it, Scott is just the type of player to go and win this week. Form not good, slipping down the rankings, not much expected of him and odds not good. Sound like anyone? (think last year)

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

First things first kwini, I'm glad the weather forecast is good. I get genuinely disappointed when I switch on the TV & see torrential rain, genuine. laugh So glad the weather forecast is good this year. ok With the possibility of rain on Thursday as you say, this might give some Golfers the opportunity to attack the pins. Tho I know that's a lot easier said than done. On a side note, has an 'Ode' ever been put together about putting in Augusta? The man/women who invents that is onto a sure fire winner.

Love your breakdown, my heart & head are both with Martin Kaymer & Paul Casey. For me, both have got the head, heart & the game for it. I'm not so sure about 'The Goose' tho kwini. Probably because when I've backed him previously, when he's standing over a putt, I think I'm more nervous than he is.

The Masters for me is up there with one of the best Sporting spectacles there is. This time round, as in most years, it's serving up as a perfect entrée for one of my other Sporting favourites, our own Snooker World Championships, starting April 17th, where I've been asked to attend & do an interview on the BBC as part of the 25th anniversary of the Steve Davis & Dennis Taylor final. Should be interesting. erm

Back to this great Golfing event, I watched some of the Par 3 tournament last night on the TV. Wasn't it heart warming to see Arnold Palmer knock that 40 footer in? A great reflection, for me anyway, with just how good them guy's are. Personally, I love it.

I wish you & all other honest Golfers on here, a fabulous tournament kwini one which I hope brings great enjoyment into your lives. For me, its a celebration as such, one to be embraced too.

Enjoy. ok

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

Half an hour to go!!!

Weather looks decent right now, not so hot, winds picking up, reckon early tee-times will have an advantage, strong likelihood of a front coming through as the last afternoon groups are making the turn.

Glorious weather the rest of the weekend.

Sorry, can't fancy Adam Scott!

Thanks Lairdy, steelman,
Haven't seen those actual sites but have seen the "data". Also very interested to see coverage of Matteo!
My "elimination" process was very tongue in cheek, but interesting to me nevertheless.
Strong expectation that Dustin Johnson has a Masters in his future.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

kwin

is the masters leaderbord going to be even better than last year in terms of updates ?

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

Hi JohnMBE,
A Happy Masters to you too. Sacriligious to say it but missed the Par-3 coverage, had to watch Fergie fail to close the deal, much like Diggers, etc, feel that Goosen would!

Not sure a suitable ode to Augusta would pass the moderators! I've fallen foul of them this week, especially regarding Billy Payne's outburst against Mr.Woods. Who does Payne think he is? Suffice to say that, if he didn't approve of Woods's alleged conduct, whatever that might mean, The Masters shouldn't have invited him.

But I digress: Agree about Casey and Kaymer but just have fitness concerns about each, plus I have to put Westwood a step ahead in Europe right now, a giant step if his Dubai short game has made the trip with him!

Thatr's quite an honour you've got there, John, joining the tribute to Dennis Taylor etc. Congratulations. Video link s'il vous plait! I think everyone participating should wear Taylor-like glasses!
Happy Masters!

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

GJ,
The Masters on-line experience is usually slower than Ben Crane, not optimistic at all!

Good luck with Adam, I thought he was great personality-wise when I trekked around with him last year, very droll sense of humour, incredibly courteous with the galleries.
Just don't see a green jacket on his shoulders this Sunday.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

Just picked Tiger and Padraig out of the hat in the company sweep.

| complain about this comment

comment by ch21ss (U9240409)

posted Apr 8, 2010

My impression is that the entire spiel about sportsmen being "role models" is mostly an excuse for the media to engage in gossip about their private life anyway.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

I'm not sure some bloke who whacks a dimpled ball around for a living was ever really a realistic role model

---

And in a single line, Ben Dirs loses his cred in the golfing world.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

Where can I watch the golf?

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

VW Scirocco
This is the Masters you can only watch it when they let you and that is normally from around 8.00pm each evening on the BBC. Not sure internat has hit the Masters yet.

| complain about this comment

comment by Lairdy (U2728317)

posted Apr 8, 2010

Ponderingalong - did you have those picks in the fridge beforehand?!

Kwini - agree on Dustin. He hits that far I'm not sure you could count him out any Major. A bit of course discipline to go with that length and his putting and who knows...

| complain about this comment

comment by edmund (U6544721)

posted Apr 8, 2010

I think there should be a major on each continent. Asia, Africa, Europe, South and North America.

This sports does not reflect modernity, the PGA must thank their starts that Tiger Woods came along.

I for one will never have developed an interest in this game.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

has anyone a link to the masters leaderboard on the official website i cant find it

erm

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

Lairdy,
Needs must in this day and age but I did feel sorry for the guy who pulled out Jack and Arnie.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

laugh

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

Did I escape?

---

Well... if you think that any sporting person, celebrity or tv figure may well represent the pinnacle of aspirations of young, innocent and faithful people then they will be influential. This latter word is the most significant. Such people will either be motivational and demotivational forces. Perhaps a little binary for my liking but you see where I'm going.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

Well in fairness there must be thousands of kids worldwide, with a natural flair for golf, whose parents would have been encouraging them to follow in Woods' footsteps. So he is a role model, if only to them.

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

what a farce i cant find a leaderboard on the official masters site

doh

| complain about this comment

posted Apr 8, 2010

http://www.masters.com/en_US/scores/index.html

It will be on there when the tournament starts.

| complain about this comment

comment by matt (U1989790)

posted Apr 8, 2010

lovely read agian kwini
just checked my betfair account and i seem to have backed half the field!

| complain about this comment

Page 1 of 15

HINTS & TIPS

Deleting comments

You are in charge of your own space - if you see an offensive comment, you can delete it

Reasonable debate is allowed - please don't delete a comment just because you don't agree with it

If you are not sure, or feel a comment warrants further attention, you can refer it to a moderator instead