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posted Mar 5, 2010

can't see any logic. He is a future Test player and..

Bangladesh are the worst Test side.
Sub-contintent wickets turn.
You need two spinners, preferably who are different.

As you say this tour was the perfect chance.

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posted Mar 5, 2010

he's been shabbily treat for certain.

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posted Mar 5, 2010

Rashid has been treated very badly this last 6 months. I think he should be in Bangladesh atm, I also think they should have then given him most of the summer in the team even if that means playing 2 spinners. We're unlikely to have a finished pace attack for next winter so a leggie/offie combination would be very handy in Aus.

Maybe the England selectors only want to have 1 attacking spinner in the side at 1 time and at the moment that's Swann, so just want the second spinner to hold up an end.

Englands selectors seem to have a few problems with spinners, I think they see them as steady players rather than strike bowlers, hopefully Swann can change this attitude. They also don't seem to see a spinner as a genuine all-rounder, probably a holdup from Botham and Flintoff.

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posted Mar 5, 2010

Completely agree.

Very disappointed in the selectors- Rashid the poor bloke has done all her can, and when the perfect match experience opportunity arrives we over look him and pick Tredwell instead - who I don't rate at this level.


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posted Mar 5, 2010

I have totally forgotten about Rashid. Looking at this then YES, he has been treated very badly.

His personal confidence and confidence with the ECB must be shot to pieces.

If this is the way you treat the future of English cricket, i would tear up any contracts the ECB throws at him and maximise your earnings going freelance.

Very harsh on Rashid

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posted Mar 5, 2010

I think that is the problem everyone has forgotten about him, as the there is nothing ive found in the media about it!

As a Yorkshire man freelance is the worst he could do, stay at headingly and raid the counties for runs and wickets ;-)

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posted Mar 5, 2010

garmesh...or garbage...why do you think all these players are going to tear up there contracts and join the IPL!

I thought the IPL could survive wothout all these foreign players...thats what all the indian fans on 606 keeping shoving down our throats!
Modi keeps saying they can survive without foreign players who pull out with security concerns, because the IPL is so big and so strong.... but you seem to want all these english players to rip up contracts and join the IPL!

Maybe they have some honour and not full of greed like some!!!

Just a thought!

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posted Mar 5, 2010

I can't believe they put Tredwell in the side instead of Rashid who would compliment the off spinner rather than mimic him.

I am from Kent but I am afraid Tredwell is no where near International class while Rashid will be even if he needs to mature. However, he will never mature if they just have him carrying drinks and bowling in the nets.

I don't know why he is on tour at all if they only see him as a servant!

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posted Mar 5, 2010

I wouldn't say not picking him is "shabbily treating" him. He isn't, after all, an established international player, and on those occassions when he has played for his country he hasn't exactly covered himself in glory, and as such can't expect to make the squad.

England should have picked him, though, and I wouldn't be at all suprised if he isn't given a go against Bangladesh back in England this summer, maybe through resting Swann.

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posted Mar 5, 2010

100notoutatnumber11 (U6672652)

Read my opinion again. Where did I mention the IPL. Not once. You must be obsessed with the IPL if you automatically come to that conclusion.

By becoming freelance, he can play all over the world 12 months of the year without obiding to rules of counties and the ECB, thus maximising his earnings potential.

Flintoff was the first and he will not be the last to become a freelance player. It is the future.

Remember, these cricketers are professional sports people and are all playing for a living. So as they are only going to have a short career, why not maximise your income with your talents. I know I would and 99% of people around the world would.

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posted Mar 5, 2010

Rashid = Walcott

Young , talented and exciting .. but inconsistent. Everything a young talent will be.

We need to take our time and get them playing in the age groups and rep sides playing regularly and not sitting on the sidelines for the 1st team.
They have time on their side so lets use it wisely

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posted Mar 5, 2010

I see Freelance is your new word of the day!

Freddy said he was going Freelance to hide the fact that he will probably never play again!

Like l said, some people are not as greedy as you would hope!

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posted Mar 5, 2010

England's bowling attack is quite settled and there is fair bit of strength in depth. Unfortunately you need to take whatever limited opportunities come your way to impress (whether that be with the first xi, the lions or performance squads) He hasn't really done this. Personally I like the lad and I think he could be useful for us because he brings something different to the table. But he needs to start taking his opportunities and prove he does when the pressure is on for him to do so. It's a competitive atmosphere in Englands squads at the moment, no one is going to get a free ride based on potential.

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comment by Andrew (U9228411)

posted Mar 5, 2010

ECB are caught between a rock and a hard place... play Rashid and he's not great - well we should have played the form player (Tredwell). Play Tredwell and he's not great - well we should have played the future player (Rashid).

Point is, Tredwell ahd a great year and deserved a chance. Rashid was okay last year, but needs to earn his place in the team rather than assuming England will keep him around (as Monty did).

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posted Mar 5, 2010

why are you talkin about Rashid for? Kieswetter just hit his maiden ODI ton and all you keep harping on about is a spinner not in the team.

I think Rashid has a great future ahead of him, but clearly a 3-0 win shows they made the right choices.

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comment by phweeee (U3152425)

posted Mar 5, 2010

Given how little game time he was given in South Africa I can only assume he didn't impress in net sessions. He's certainly an exciting prospect for the future but maybe he's still a bit inconsistent for international cricket. It's taken Swann a long time to get his game to the right level, maybe Rashid just needs that time to develop.

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comment by tajjuk (U9502309)

posted Mar 5, 2010

They certainly have missed a trick, as a young leg spinner he is always going to be better of in tests than T20s, so not to play him against Bangladesh on spinning tracks makes no sense, plus he seemed to be performing quite well in the Lions squad, such as his performace against england in the T20, I beleive he got two or three wickets and wnet under 5 an over.

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comment by Kapnag (U11006724)

posted Mar 5, 2010

Rashid has hardly justified his selection when included. The hype and outrage that surrounds every non-selection is baffling

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posted Mar 5, 2010

I didn't mean not picking him for Bangladesh was shabby treatment. But the fact that his raw talent has only been used in T20 and ODI games where experienced bowlers often struggle.
But taking him to WI and not giving him a test, taking him to SA where his chance of a test were never good was unfairly raising his hopes.
He surely could have been given a chance in one the six tests against the WI early last year.

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posted Mar 5, 2010

But his selection when it has come has always come in a format which doesn't suit him, and often in South Africa, that famed hotbed of spin bowling talent.

What baffles me is why you would take him to SA, where spin bowling is synonymous with cannon fodder, never play him but still drop him for a tour which would suit him perfectly for an over the hill county journeyman.

Tredwell is another off-spinner, one who season after season has failed to set the county scene alight. Is he honestly going to take any wickets that Swann, are far more talented off-spinner won't. Picking Rashid for Bangladesh would have given him a chance at test cricket and given us a chance to learn a lot more about him. All we'ver learned now is that Tredwell is an average county spinner, which we knew

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posted Mar 5, 2010

The selection of Treadwell may be because Bangladesh have so many left hand batsmen. In a recent test the first 4 batsmen were left handed.
The selectors may believe the off spinner is more effective against left handers.

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posted Mar 5, 2010

Good game this. Pietersen was the pick of the spinners and Bresnan is bowling very well. It can only be good news for the test series.

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posted Mar 5, 2010

Why should he be bothered about getting picked for an England/South Africa XI when he'll be getting a regular game for Yorkshire??
Don't understand these youngsters nowadays.

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posted Mar 5, 2010

Great stuff by England yet again, and we know we have a very good cricket team when Kevin Pietersen is playing a low key role in it, who would have thought that a year ago?

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comment by LOEF (U14365039)

posted Mar 5, 2010

Did you ever here the story about an Irishman and a SAfrican saving the great England against cricketing minnows.

Next they'll be saying that England's best player is SAfrican and their captain was born in SAfrica....

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posted Mar 5, 2010

Why does the press not give more attention to the status of English golfers. At least 3 in the worlds top 10. (probably a similar number to the English born players in the England cricket team :-)). Yet, there was more attention given to Tigers Wood speech than Ian Poulter's World Golf Championship win in Arizona.(and he was born in England)

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