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WRU's Thomas For Crusaders

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posted Mar 3, 2010

Nobby surely would not want a 35yr veteran union winger/centre its a pr stunt to get the crowds in, it may well happen but it wont improve the side...

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posted Mar 3, 2010

i hope they get both thomas and henson , great players on the day.

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posted Mar 3, 2010

They will get battered ,simple s as the meir cat would say <doh>

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posted Mar 3, 2010

I don't think it really matter whether he does or not. This is purely to help drum up more interest in Crusaders from Welshmen and I suspect Brian Noble's astute brain was right behind this excellent idea.

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comment by naigib (U10221114)

posted Mar 3, 2010

Both would be good for publicity - but as playing staff, Thomas is 10 years too late and can't see Henson hacking the relentless physicality of league for too long.

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posted Mar 3, 2010

Even if it is just a ploy, if it can get the union supporters of Wales reading the papers or in fact turning up to the games it can only be good for the Crusaders.

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comment by Gavin (U14252651)

posted Mar 3, 2010

Great moves PR if they re going to happen. Been rumblng on a longtime. What is Hensons injury anyway. It it's one that's gonna be alleviated by not lying under 15 fat boys then fair enough. If it's one that is not gonna tolerate bigger 1 on 1 hits he is gonna struggle.

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posted Mar 3, 2010

Both would be good for publicity - but as playing staff, Thomas is 10 years too late and can't see Henson hacking the relentless physicality of league for too long.
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Fair point Souths. Crusaders have been doing well with crowds. 18,500 in 2 games at Wrexham. Not bad at all. They're travelling in numbers too. The future of Welsh Rugby League looks bright.

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posted Mar 3, 2010

"Both would be good for publicity - but as playing staff, Thomas is 10 years too late and can't see Henson hacking the relentless physicality of league for too long."

Ye of little faith - Henson is tougher than he looks.

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comment by naigib (U10221114)

posted Mar 3, 2010

"Ye of little faith - Henson is tougher than he looks."

He's a big strong boy for sure but there have been a couple of 'tough' games I've watched where he's gone MIA. Not a good sign!

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posted Mar 3, 2010

True- Guarantee Henson will smash bigger men than him in one on one hits. Defence is possibly his strongest point. Think hed be a fairly handy league player

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posted Mar 3, 2010

Rugby league has always had the marketing philsophy of if we can get them to watch it they'll like it. that is way siging a 35 year old welsh union captain is popentially the best move in crusaders history regarding their long term future

Increasung revenue is what develops a club and revenue come from the fans, you get thousand watch Gareth Thomas for a couple of games on telly and a hundreds become fans of Crusaders, thats better for them right now than signing Billy Slater

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comment by Lex (U12771108)

posted Mar 3, 2010

Thomas Im not sure about regards his playing abaility, obviously can/could play rigby but a bit long in the tooth for SL but, has as been said, great marketing strategy from the welsh.

Henson is anoher kettle of fish, I don't watch much union but the guy has obviously got talent, he doesn't get all that media exposue soley on the back of Ms Church ( no pun intended) and is certainly a player alot of the big union clubs would like.

All in all a good move all round....gets the union dominated papers talking and who knows, we could unearth a new J Davies in old Gavin..

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posted Mar 3, 2010

although it's not a title to be proud of i'm probably one of 606's most vehement critics of raggah and the players that are continually portrayed as masters of the universe ie wilkinson's elevation to god like status despite being one of the most talentless rugby players of his generation, but i reckon Henson could hack League.

he's a tidy outfit with good strength but can he hack the relentlessness of League. the sheer physicality of the sport compared to raggah.

plus, he'll be targetted big time by the sport's real enforcers. even in raggah he's seen as a bit of a poser which won't bode well for him but union have the world cup and no union player worth his salt would sacrifice the prospect of playing in RWC to come over and play League. that's dreaming

personally, i hope Thomas does well

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posted Mar 3, 2010

We in OZ have just had a brand new franchise in AFL move into the heartlands of rugby league on the Gold Coast and the first thing they did was purchase Karmichael Hunt from the Brisbane club. Hunt himself will tell you he hasn't played the game before except at a knock about level with mates 7 - 8 years ago.
But it made headlines on the entire east coast of OZ for weeks on end. All this and they haven't even started marketing him yet.
It is a big part of sponsorship these types of players as well as getting the locals talking.

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posted Mar 3, 2010

he will probably be used on the wing if raynor goes down.

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comment by Gavin (U14252651)

posted Mar 3, 2010

Actually read the article now! Very interesting that he mentioned Andy Powell. If Cru managed to sign all 3 that would really put the cat amongst the pigeons at the RFU.

Cru have got the perfect place to get em up to speed at Scorpions as well

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posted Mar 3, 2010

Immense PR Stunt. Make no mistake thats exactly what it is, and its genius.

Its probably far too late in his career for him to be a force on the field but his presence and his stature in the Welsh game is worth every penny there paying him.

I would expect the welsh papers and local rags will all be getting this story spoon fed to them along with regualr updates and articles on his adaption and progress in a new sport.

Well played Crusaders.

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comment by B&Wlad (U4971061)

posted Mar 3, 2010

I think you can put this down as a marketing ploy by Crusaders, back in the 80's Doug Laughton used to say 'if you read it in the press, I'm only banging the drum' then he would sign a player out of the blue that had never been mentioned.

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posted Mar 3, 2010

I have nothing against the bloke but spending money on a 35 year old who has never played the game? It seems bonkers to me and smacks of publicity seeking and little else.
I hope he proves me wrong by the way.

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posted Mar 3, 2010

Great move in the PR stakes and see no reason why he can't be useful on the pitch for a couple of seasons - he is a talented rugby player and will adapt. A new challenge may put some life in his 35 yr old legs.
I think GH could also do well, i reckon he is tough enough although does seem a bit injury prone.

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posted Mar 3, 2010

They'll get whatever money they give him back with the spectators he'll pull in. It's good to see so many of us posting fair comments, without the 'rah-rah never make it' type of thing, but I have to agree that at his age if he does have any success at all it'll be to his great credit.

Very interesting point by Souths too. It's a good analogy how the AFL have done a similar thing with a high-profile leaguie who's hardly played Aussie Rules.

Can't see it happening, but it'd be great if they could get Henson and Powell. They'd both make cracking league players, Henson's injury history being the only doubt for me.

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posted Mar 3, 2010

Well it has been on all the wales news programs today, crusaders are getting great publicity out of it.

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posted Mar 4, 2010

I want Crusaders to succeed and good luck to them and any of their signings. So much more common sense than yet another misguided attempt to get a foothold in South Wales.

Charlotte giving it some at half time - icing on the cake!

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posted Mar 4, 2010

And these welsh RU fans will watch RL in the same way all RL fans immediately turned on Sky to watch Farrell when he went to Saracens?

Oh hang on, that was just a superaanuated player going to the other code to supplement his pension, wasn't it?

Completely different...

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posted Mar 4, 2010

Well, despite your irony, Captivep, yes! Many of my mates and I followed Robinson and Farrell's progress when they went to union. I felt that Farrell, like Thomas, was too late, but was still very disappointed.

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posted Mar 4, 2010

"If Cru managed to sign all 3 that would really put the cat amongst the pigeons at the RFU."

Why would it concern the RFU? Were the ARL concerned when Farrell, Walker and Big Les went to play RU.

Be interesting to see how Thomas goes purely for novelty value I would assume that he will have a better chance of playing first team Rugby at CC.

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posted Mar 4, 2010

Superb move will have a few starter games for the South Wales Scorpions aswell awesome for Welsh rugby league. He plays for the scorpions they will sell out

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comment by Gavin (U14252651)

posted Mar 4, 2010

Fooling meant WRU not RFU apologies. They have shown there concern by setting up that RU team in the north or awakes under Clive Griffiths. An that was before Thomas joined. What will they do if Henson and Poweel signed.? Movethe Millenium stadium to Rhyl?

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posted Mar 5, 2010

gareth thomas is a great pro. he'll do well for the crusaders. he will be great for bringing on the youngsters, and just being a leader. i look forward to seeing him play.

is it a loss for welsh rugby? clearly not. he's been retired from international rugby for 2 and a half years, and was just a squad player for the blues. his value was that he could cover both centres, both wings and full back, but he was never going to be a first team player again.

so, welsh rugby loses a player who was looking like he was going into a player/coach role at the end of the season, and the crusaders gain a leader who still has a bit in the tank and will bring them publicity.

gareth thomas will get game time, and a new challenge. its a win-win, in my opinion.

as for henson and powell, they will all be decided by non-rugby events. mentally, henson is a mess. to be honest, i pray that i dont get a phone call one day to say that he has done himself some harm. if he is up to it, you would expect him to go back to union and try and make the 2011 RWC squad, because he has never played in a world cup.

if powell hasnt destroyed his international career with the golf buggy incident, i would again expect him to knuckle down in union and try to make the world cup squad.

in the end, as we all know, its about money and international opportunities. gavin henson is rich enough for the money not to be a huge factor, but its that international game that he will be aching to compete in.

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