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posted Nov 18, 2009

I agree YR - see my post - the football authorities need to start listening to the fans. We want fairness and integrity in our sport - there is less and less. I am Man U through and through but I would rather lose than see us win unfairly. I was for losing the game against Spurs those seasons ago when Roy Carroll clawed the ball back from two feet behind the line and I was incensed for the Irish tonight although I am an Englishman. They did not deserve that and players like Kilbane, possibly Robbie Keane, Richard Dunne will NEVER play in the world cup finals again because of a cheat!

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posted Nov 18, 2009

Sad to say our beloved game has long since ceased to be a sport - £..$.. and the rest now rule.

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posted Nov 19, 2009


It is indeed the problem with football, regardless who the player is, (letís be honest, it could have been any one of hundreds of players) the mentality is to cheat, no, actually, they are so far removed from society, they have clearly lost concept of the term cheating, as the theory is, Ďif the ref hasnít given it, then whatís the problemí? The fact that footballers pose these questions after such instances, tells you all you need to know about what has become of football. I am not going to get high and mighty and say he should have run over to the ref begging him not to give it (and yes, it may well have been a reflex action), but at least acknowledge it isnít in the spirit of the game, ah well, what do I know.

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posted Nov 19, 2009

I feel for the Irish, its a joke how France got through.

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posted Nov 19, 2009

I feel sorry for Ireland, you deserved to win, but you didnít seriously think UEFA would let you knock out France did you? Platini would have been livid!
Itís amazing how Henry has gone from widely revered to Public Enemy #1 in the blink of an eye, but thatís the risk you take if you cheat.

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posted Nov 19, 2009

You're absolutely spot on YR, but big bucks now rule the game unfortunately.

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posted Nov 19, 2009

Is this not one of the most recent cases FOR video refereeing? In my opinion the game will adopt the technology within the next 5-10 years so why not start looking at it now. If a video referee was watching the game then if the referee had any doubt over the goal (which you think he would considering every players reaction) he would be able to consult the video ref before awarding/not awarding the goal. Simple, no???

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posted Nov 19, 2009

Two points:

1. Football has become a Game. It is no longer a sport.

2. If we think we can cheat, then we can't blaim others for doing the same. Footballers, Politicians, Bankers, etc.

If you cheat than you can have no complaints. Stop it!

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comment by Tony (U8585743)

posted Nov 19, 2009

Unfortunately a poor decision by the ref has cost the Irish massively. It's definitely time to bring in cameras for such critical decisions

We should start with the World Cup

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posted Nov 19, 2009

Sad for the Irish, Sad for football. First Eduardo, now this....It has to stop. The players wont stop as there is too much at stake. Let the referee's continue to make the final call, but allow them to get help from technology. That does not lessen their power, it increases it. It does not have to be every call either. I would suggest red cards, goals and penalties as they have most impact on a result.

At least Henry admitted it. Makes him more of a man that Eduardo in my eyes.

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posted Nov 19, 2009

@ quiteManners - I agree, but those of us on the sidelines are also culpable to a degree.

Fans and commentators of the game have another word for cheating - passion - and as such they can use this term to absolve most things that go on on the pitch.....

The beautiful game...... hasn't been that for many a long year sadly.

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posted Nov 19, 2009

absolutely shocking, there is no way henry was gonna put his hand up and say i handled it to ref, no one expects that from any player, but when he comes out after the game and says "the ball hit my arm" "I didn't deliberately do it he" lost alot of respect no matter what country u from, not only a cheater also a liar. i watched the game with some french friends and when they saw what happened they put their heads down and they were ashamed.

what fifa gonna do??? NOTHING, what uefa gonna do??? praise henry and plan ahead to how to make sure france will get to the final over the summer. i dont know what to say about this organization actually i do know but i cant hear.
im not irish, im half italian, but still VERY frustrated and feel sorry for the irish

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posted Nov 19, 2009

Why have rules if you don't enforce them? There are four match officials, tv replays etc. etc.

Instead we have Maradona and Ovrebo going to the World Cup.

This good old boy network that we have in sport should not be allowed. Economics and politics should not be factored in. Sport should be held to a higher standard.

FIFA what are your young sports fans supposed to think?

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posted Nov 19, 2009

Seems to me that Given would probably have been sent off and a penalty awarded 9 times out 10 for his trip on Anelka when clean through.

You can see he clearly takes out Anelka's ankle on the reverese angle. You would think the French would have just as much right to complain about this as Ireland do about the handball?

The handball is clearly wrong, the irish can hardly complain given the incident just before. Looking for excuses when they should be blaming themselves for missing so many chances to make it 2-0

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posted Nov 19, 2009

Dirty, cheating swine is what he is. Makes me sick to think they probably went into the dressing room and started partying as if they deserved it.

The extra refs that have been brought in for the Europa League would have been a good idea. That was Platinis idea as well.

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posted Nov 19, 2009

I am Italian, and watching from a neutral standing even though i want ireland to win (trappio!) i simply can not believe that this result is going to stand. What i also cant believe is that footballers can say 'Yes i handled it, but im not the referee.' Does this not encourage the nature of if the referee does not see it then i can cheat whatever or how many times i like? Please someone answer me this if possible. Thing needs to change.

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posted Nov 19, 2009

comment by clarkmartin (U1822733)
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Sad for the Irish, Sad for football. First Eduardo, now this....It has to stop. The players wont stop as there is too much at stake. Let the referee's continue to make the final call, but allow them to get help from technology. That does not lessen their power, it increases it. It does not have to be every call either. I would suggest red cards, goals and penalties as they have most impact on a result.

At least Henry admitted it. Makes him more of a man that Eduardo in my eyes.
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Oh, now that is a bunch of bull, you canít even compare the two incidents. Eduardo dived under nominal contact (still a dive, admittedly, and Iíve always said so), earned a pen, scored it, then the team scored several more goals, and Celtic were on a deficit before then anyway. And a game later, Aiden ĎMr Perfect ĎMcGeady went and did exactly the same thing. The only reason no-one grilled him for it is because the ref saw it and sent punished him.
Henry, on the other hand, blatantly handled the ball with NO mitigation whatsoever and the goal was a crucial one.
I understand youíre upset about this and you have every right to be, but bringing up Eduardo when the incident isnít applicable here (especially seeing as we Gunners have suffered bad decisions too, like the Arshavin penalty never given against United) is not right. Henry is the one on trial here, not Eddy.

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posted Nov 19, 2009

I have mixed emotions on this. I agree with the coment on here about the Irish booing on rememberence day being unacceptable, but that aside it's a shame that once again poor refereeing and lack of technology has meant that the wrong team will progress. It's been a lifetime since football really was 'the beautiful game' and will never be beautiful again. It's pure money now so people need to either accept it or move on as our voices will never be heard by the people who count.

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posted Nov 19, 2009

Sorry, but what did Eduardo do?

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posted Nov 19, 2009

Feel desperately sorry for Ireland who thoroughly deserved to go through . The "deliberate" seeding issue being more unfortunate than the "missed" hand ball . Bigger than all that is that it is now official " sport is dead " Rhamzi and half a dozen others have to hand back their medals . All that Olmypic viewing of a year ago down the drain . Ireland out of the World Cup , all that qualifying viewing down the drain . Never mind though Henry lives in the luxury of his many millions , so that makes it all understandable eh .

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posted Nov 19, 2009

Can I just remind everyone Henry hasn't become a cheat overnight. He scored a goal against Glasgow Rangers for Barcelona 2 years ago with clear use of his hand as he slid in at the back post.

The guy is a cheat, plain and simple. He's managed to pull off this nice guy persona for years. I lost respect for him with his disrespectful comments about Scotland when we beat them at Hampden.

He should be handed the ban that Eduardo never got. Nicolas Anelka shouldn't go unpunichsed either for his clear dive. And for that matter Henry's pitiful dive to win a free kick when they already had one should hammer the nail in!

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