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World Cup Streaming Video England v Ukraine

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posted Oct 5, 2009

Trouble is, this is the way of the future unless the fans just refuse the pay the prices.

I guess similar arguments were raised when Satellite TV started owning rights to games.

Paying for SKY is bad enough, but at least they deliver a quality picture.

A nice internet broadcast should look good on a massive HD TV.

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posted Oct 5, 2009

devil
I'll be damned if I'm going to give my credit card details to some arriviste Ukrainian outfit that I've never heard of in order to watch a blurry, lagging stream on which you may or may not actually get to see the match.
And for over £11 (on the day)? That's more than you'd pay to see a live match in most places!

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posted Oct 6, 2009

Not watching it end of... Not going to encourage this it is outragous... Already paying for sky and ESPN so...

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comment by U14111164

posted Oct 6, 2009

surely this whole idea is a non-starter anyway bearing in mind the amount of illegal sites that stream matches online which youu can watch for free (I assume this match will be no different), particularly since the links to these sites regularly do the rounds on 606

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posted Oct 6, 2009

good article. greedy corporations linked in with corrupted government who are more interested in watching these companies milk the consumer than serve our interests. 100% of people are against this idea and I really hope it flops, it would be great if only A few thousand subscribed for it. just shows how out of touch the companies and regulators are. streaming is still way behind and nowhere near technologicAlly advanced to offer this sort of service, the game will finish way before it does on the Internet. the quality will be suitable only for a 17" screen max, and if too many people try and watch it at the same time the stream will crash. this all stems from the gov who stripped us of our rights to certain sports. most of the major sporting events were protected and could not be sold commercially other than to a terrestrial tv company Inc England football amongst other things. but oh no the associations convinced the regulAtors run by gov that they could make millions more if they were to open it up to the highest bidder, but since there is only one serious player sky who are sustainable they can't all go to them cause antimonopoly so the xonsusmer suffers even more as the terrestrial won't pay the big money so it goes to some rip off jack in the box broadcaster who I bet my house just like setanta, on digital and whoever else has tried to take ssky on and gone bust.

meanwhile us England and football fans get deprived of one of the few things that this crazy country let us enjoy. I empathise with the canda dweller as I go to north America and footy is just A write off when I'm there despite all this texhonolgy I can't even wacth the goal highlights

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posted Oct 6, 2009

I pay £42pm to Sky, £17pm to the BBC and £5pm for a very poor broadband service with a maximum download speed of 1.7mb and a connection that continuously drops out. Why on earth should I be expected to pay some obscure company more of my hard earned cash for the obvious ensuing frustration? On top of that, I work offshore for a month at a time where streaming video (if it were at all possible for a connection to hold up for an hour and a half) is forbidden on company equipment (there is no alternative) As I'm offshore at the moment, I will obviously not see the match live but had I been at home I would have definately refused to watch online anyway. This idea will only be a good when we are provided with a broadband system that is equal to that of France's for instance and I don't have to pay even more for than I do already.

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posted Oct 6, 2009

Itís a plain stupid idea; this is for sure going to be the lowest watched England game.
Buying all the rights ha what a joke, I won't mind if it was an option that you could watch it on the internet but that being the only option is just outrageous and the price of £11 on the day to watch on a pc, no way!!
I won't argue if it was an option to watch it online, if you also have an option to watch it on TV. But for Thursday i'll listen to it on the radio.

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comment by thurl3 (U14163192)

posted Oct 6, 2009

I'd have no problem with this if it wasn't for the fact you watch it in the pub. To think that those great evenings down the pub with a big lively crowd might be on the way out fills me with dread!!

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posted Oct 6, 2009

The prices being charged are ridiculous. I thought £4.99 was gonna be reasonable, until I read further..... £12!!!! That is Ĺ the cost of 1 months Cable Broadband!!!

When you consider the recent Broadband statistics.... most UK computers and connections will not cope with streaming 2 hours of live feed..... can you imagine, the networks of the country struggle as it is!!!!

Until every home has 100Mb Optic Fibre.... this is not the best solution.

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posted Oct 6, 2009

In these days of HDTV and 50" Plasma screens, why would anyone want to watch a disrupted, interupted, low res, Internet feed of a dead match.

It will be a financial disaster and that should bring an end to this little experiment.

The idiots encouraging people to watch on the Internet will get their comeuppence when people find that you can watch most bid games (of any major sport) live and free if you know where to look.

I predict less than 100,000 will buy the game online in the UK!

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posted Oct 6, 2009

You DON'T have to pay if you know what you're doing. Anyway, Russia v Germany is on TV, I'll be watching that.

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posted Oct 6, 2009

I think it's a daft idea and I think I'll pass on paying to watch a blurry feed that will probably keep freezing (my connection's not that great at the best of times)

Shame, but at least I can catch up on other stuff now this weekend, every cloud having a silver lining and all, and it's not like there's anything at stake anyway smiley

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comment by Andy (U13704666)

posted Oct 6, 2009

While I do have Sky, and don't have a problem having to pay to watch domestic football on tv, I think it is absolutely digusting that the English public cannot watch their national team on one of the terrestrial channels. It was bad enough when it was on Setanta but at least you had the option of going to the pub, but this latest idea is completely stupid. The powers that be need to come to some kind of arrangement that allows ALL of the Home nations matches to be available on at least one free to air channel.

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posted Oct 6, 2009

We need to boycott this on mass and make it fail. In Holland sky tv is free because nobody would subscribe, so eventually, due to pressure from the corporations who advertise on sky channels, they were forced to give away both the boxes and the channels. If we subscribe at this extortionate rate, then as with all things in rip off Britain, we will pay through the nose as the price will soar and get worse. If you are a sky subscriber you should be ringing them up, demanding to know why you cannot watch the game and threatening to cancel your subscription. We the paying public are more powerful than we think, we just all need to join together, so boycott this now. Why doesn't Gordon Brown do something about it?......aaah well now, if it was a Scotland game......

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posted Oct 6, 2009

Gordon Brown will be too busy eating and getting fatter.....I for one am boycotting the match, I will not pay to be able to not watch it without interuptions and bad stream...instead im gonna watch bleach and then go out and party!

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posted Oct 6, 2009

why is everyone so suprised?

you need a large monthly subscription to sky then they still charge you for certain events like boxing etc and the latest movies.

The BBC MAKE everyone pay a license fee for rubbish television and now they are pushing through a proposal the the BBC iPlayer should be a payed service...so they want more money!!

No-one cares about the football fan because no matter how many protest or how many boycott them, there will always be plenty of mugs who pay the fee to watch.

The owners of coverage for this england wanted 2 million from a tv broadcaster to show it, none are willing to pay.

they're putting it online for £5 (early fee) £12 (late fee) and are limiting it to 1 million veiwers...if they get that...well you do the maths. they are quids in.

football fans are mugs so they treat us like mugs!!

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posted Oct 6, 2009

As regards team sport England always lose out. The BBC favors Ireland Wales Scotland while England get radio coverage only.
I can live without the BBC due to the lack of sport on TV. I live on the east coast of England. I can get Welsh Rugby with welsh commentry on the red button regards rugby. Next month Ireland Wales Scotland all on the TV regards Rugby England on the radio if I am lucky.
Football we get Scottish Irish and Welsh games no English football.
80% of the licence fee payers live in England a fact ignored by the BBC.
We have BBC Wales BBC Ireland and BBC Scotland all of whom complain if their coveage is affected in any way. Scrum 5 for BBC wales is another example.
If I had a choice I would not pay to support the BBC but I would go to prison if I did that.
There is talk today of freezing public sectpr pay. Will they freeze the TV licence no.
I am fed up paying the licence fee for a service that does not exist.
The BBC does not exist because England are not part of the setup.
There is no BBC England for us to complain to. BBC overated overpaid and devoid of English sport.

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posted Oct 6, 2009

To cap it all Rio Ferdinand, sounding as if he approved when saying , out of the side of his mouth as usual ,that what with advertising , this is the future , so much for the fans then, why let them get in the way when there is more money to be grabbed by "the big four"

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posted Oct 6, 2009

guaranteed you will get the same streaming quality on iraqgoals and that is free, the more and more they try to charge to watch football the more and more people will watch it illegally.

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posted Oct 6, 2009

You can watch the match online legally for free with at least one bookmaker if you have an active account. Still need a decent connection though, which rules out me.

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posted Oct 6, 2009

Shame that the BBC can't/won't even try to get hold of an England game to watch. That said, the pay-per-view price for the internet match seems lower than the subscriptions to broadcasters like Setana. Lucky it's a bit of a nothing match people aren't going to lose sleep over. My advice though, if they do this again in the future with a match people might want to see, is to get together with some mates (making the subscription price pretty much nothing) and find someone you or your friends know who can stream the internet into a telly (everyone will know at least one person who knows how to do that kind of stuff, or at least has a mate or relative who will know someone who can do it). Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer it if it was on a proper television channel as well, I'm just trying to offer advice if this is how it'll be in the future.

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posted Oct 6, 2009

Get over it England supporters, We in Northern Ireland have never had great coverage of our international football matches from the BBC we normally have to watch england matches without a choice! BBC definately give preference to England. We pay our License fee for occasional coverage on BBC2

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posted Oct 6, 2009

I work in the TV industry and I can promise those who spend their £5's that it will look pretty ropey, especially blown up on a big screen. Technology just isn't ready yet. Save your money and listen to it on the radio.

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posted Oct 7, 2009

England treats the supporters with contempt .. it`s all about ripping people off.

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posted Oct 7, 2009

its a disgrace they are the modern dick turpins holding the england fans to ransom

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posted Oct 7, 2009

Looking at their website www.ukrainevsengland.com it doesn't seem that bad to be honest.

£4.99 if you buy it before the end of tomorrow compares favourably with Sky charges if you don't have satellite, etc... also there's the free option through the bookmaker which seems like a good deal to me.

Embrace the future! smiley

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posted Oct 7, 2009

The latest twist on this sorry story comes from the FA. They are planning to stream Friday's game England U-21 v Macedonia U-21 for free on the internet, in order to ensure that game "reaches the widest possible audience." The facts are that no channel apart from Chelsea TV were prepared to pay for the broadcasting rights. Hang on, haven't we heard this before? So why haven't the FA been on the phone to their Ukrainian counterparts, persuading them, in the interests of FOOTBALL to do the same for the Saturday game. The FA will have leverage. They could even slip a valuable token. The FA can afford it having taken the tainted millions from Sky which came out of OUR pockets. We are treated with such scorn. I for one shall not pay the piece of silver to watch a game in ultra low definition, and risk the ISP networks throttling the stream to doorstop, which they usually do when I want over 1 mps. It's not about £5 . It is the whole principle of marketing an untried product for which we have already paid many times over. Jack Warner has shown today that the FA haven't a clue what they are doing. German football receive and expect to receive, every game played by their National team on FTA TV. It gets the whole nation behind the team. When you look at how many times Germany have won the world cup (3) or been in the final (7), compared to England's once, someone has got it right.

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posted Oct 7, 2009

Joke, Joke, Joke,Joke, Joke, Joke, I unwilling pay subsciption fees to watch football, but in an age where millions is pumped into obeasity programs by the goverment, how can we get the younger generation to enter sports without them seeing their idiols and dreaming of what can be!

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posted Oct 7, 2009

robinmarshall (U10691195):
"how can we get the younger generation to enter sports without them seeing their idiols and dreaming of what can be"

devil
"Idiols"? Very close to "Idiots"... A Freudian slip, perchance?

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posted Oct 7, 2009

What was once a working man's pleasure, has become a prawn sandwich eater's money maker.

It's a shame football has come this, but if you think about it, it is a victim of it's own success.

Football nowadays is ALL about money.

It's why people can't watch their national team on television. And it's why only limited tickets are available for 'real' fans to go and see their team play in the big matches and finals.

It's a disgrace. But it's not going to recver any time soon.

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posted Oct 7, 2009

I think it's ridiculous, and has been set up by complete idiots, with no thought for the supporters, and even less thnought for England supporters living outside the UK...Case in point, me !!


I went to tyhe website, to check out how much I would have to pay for the game, and got this message...

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Dear Customer

Thank you for visiting www.ukrainevengland.com.

Unfortunately our automated system has detected that you are located in a geographically restricted territory where live streaming is unavailable due to broadcasting rights restrictions.

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Ok, so I live in Los Angeles, California... along with thousands of other English guys, a lot of good fgriends of mine here, are really pi**ed off we can't even pay to see the game, and even more P. off that we can't watch it in our local British Pub !

The thing is, there are millions of Britsd living in the USA, yet not one of us can watch the game.

Now, looking at this from another angle... How many millions, have the geniuses that have set this up, lost in revenue ?
Even a pound a head in the USA, would amount to a few million Pounds.. then there's all the other world countries where there are Millions of English people, that they won't broadcast too, including a lot of Eurpoe.. here's the complete list.

Ukraine
Albania
Cyprus
Croatia
Israel
Spain
Germany
Italy
Poland
Germany
Russia
Serbia & Balkan
Turkey
Latin America
North America
Middle East
Hong Kong
Thailand
South Africa

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posted Oct 8, 2009

Boycott !!!

Like all PPV its just another scheme to milk the public.

If its supported you'll end up needing Sky sports 1, sky sports 2, Internet payments and whatever else comes along as the industry rotates coverage of the great game to maximise its milking of the fans!

If this fails thats one less bunch trying to make a quick buck from our loyalty.

Boycott ! (IN CASE YOU MISSED IT BEFORE)

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posted Oct 8, 2009

Who cares? We have already qualified, anyone who actually spends 4.99 just to see this match is a mug.
It's just a pity that Setanta went under, if that had not happened then it would not be pay-per-view on the internet. There's no big shift to this kind of viewing it's just because of these circumstances that's all. Anyone would think this company has committed murder, it's just a football game, watch something else for once safe in the knowledge that we are already going to South Africa. And if you want to blame anybody blame Setanta for going under they are the only ones to blame.

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posted Oct 8, 2009

Why do you all get so annoyed, it's not life or death, go do something else with your time for once rather than watching a team full of millionaire idiots whose only care in the world is who is playing their stupidly big wage bill and couldn't give a **** about any of you fans. It's just football.

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comment by Malc (U1678304)

posted Oct 9, 2009

I understand that those with an account with Bet365, with some loot in of course, will be able to watch the game for free.

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posted Oct 9, 2009

Anyone who has already paid their £4.99 for this game have been well and truly mugged.

As stated by someone above, anyone who has an active bet365 account can see the game for FREE.

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posted Oct 9, 2009

I really wish there was an organised boycott of this nonsense. I'm already paying for Virgin - I'm not shelling out an extra £10, £15, or however much it is by the time it kicks off (I missed the £5 deadline, which was another ridiculous ploy). I'm just hoping our usual trusted friend Mr Internet comes through with the free goods somewhere smiley

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posted Oct 9, 2009

I agree wholeheartedley with crazydave_la. I also live in the states have done so since I was 10 years old(1959). It was bad enough in the 60's and 70's when the only time I could watch the matches was on Public television. I follow England religiously and am very disappointed that I can't get to see the matches. Big money wins again, inevitably they are going to price themselves right out of the market. Very disappointed in Pennsylvania! sadface

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posted Oct 9, 2009

42" Plasma - Check
Sky HD Subscription - Check
Sky Sports Package - Check
ESPN Package - Check

Getting your mates round to sit in front of a 15" laptop screen to watch a, what will be, constantly buffering stream whilst every shade of light reflects off the screen - PRICEY!!!

I put my life on it that it never happens again.

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comment by MGUK82 (U4314603)

posted Oct 9, 2009

I have found a pub in town that will screen the match smiley I suggest you guys do the same!

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posted Oct 9, 2009

why not just stream it from one of the many streaming sites? Whats the big deal...you can always watch football for free on the internet!

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posted Oct 9, 2009

Sorry everyone - I paid!

I just didn't see the issue with a relatively small "burst" fee.

Many people get themselves into subscription contracts for upwards of 12 months, paying in excess of £20/month just to see the England games. It averages out far worse, and many months don't even have any England games in them!

The sample stream looked fine to me. Of course the live stream will be under a considerable amount more stress, but as a test of internet coverage it'll be interesting at least. And if it works fine it could pave the way for decent and regular internet coverage when the UK's ancient speeds finally improve.

And for what it's worth you guys can't cry foul at what you expect to be "awful quality" while at the same time shouting about how you plan to use a free "service" of questionable legality. Those things are HORRIBLE quality. Low resolution, fuzzy, sometimes minutes behind live and frequently going down so you miss out on the game while trying to find another server showing it.

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posted Oct 9, 2009

DO NOT PAY THE MONEY - myp2p.eu

DONE!

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comment by Novak (U12740525)

posted Oct 9, 2009

DO NOT PAY FOR THIS.... we are being ripped off.. when the big greedy corporates finally realise they cannot take the @*!! anymore then there is the chance that England games will return where they rightly belong on the BBC....free to all who pay their TV licence... Its the national team and should be made available to all...do they want our support or not ??????

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posted Oct 9, 2009

Internet??? Are they out of their minds? I am sure most here have had that experience in the past. Poor quality, constant interuptions and that is you can get connected at all.

I agree "DO NOT PAY THE MONEY".

You WILL feel cheated!

This is an absolute outrage and an insult to the consumer at large.

RIP OFF is right!

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posted Oct 9, 2009

It's the FA's fault for unscrupulously selling England matches to subscription channels, I refuse to pay anything to watch what should be free to the public... Absolute disgrace!

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posted Oct 9, 2009

I agree with one of the earlier posts, that it is a shame that there isn`t an organised boycott of the game.
This is an absolute disgrace and symptomatic of the greed that streaks throughout the game of football.
I have worked my butt off to get a decent tv and spend enough money as it is on cable subscriptions without this extra expense.
If anyone has any brains at all they will not pay to watch the match. Its a deadrubber which is a good thing so we aren`t going to be missing much.
Personally i hope that they don`t raise enough money to cover whatever they are paying that joker sven to make comments and they end up losing money.
Anyone paying for this match has serious mental issues as if this becomes succesful then how long before we are paying for every notable game?
Look whats happened to boxing.

DON`T PAY IT!!!!

IT`S NOT WORTH IT!!!

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posted Oct 9, 2009

RIP OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All these scumbags trying to make an extra buck! Disgraceful!!

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