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comment by BOO (U12535530)

posted Sep 30, 2009

Don't know why he played the lost cause Davis cup.

Had he not he may well have recovered and been able to play!

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posted Sep 30, 2009

Media pressure methinks.

The wheels of power riding roughshod over players careers.

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posted Sep 30, 2009

Japan open is taking a blow, Del Potro will be laughing to the tune of 500 easy points and overtaking Murray in the 'race'

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posted Sep 30, 2009

That says Shanghai is in doubt and his next appearance might not be until Paris.

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posted Sep 30, 2009

I find it funny how when he doesnt play davis cup due to injury, his not patriotic. But when he does play despite injury, he is an idiot.

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posted Sep 30, 2009

i dont think he will head out to shanghai, but you never know with murray. anyone going to paris or london?

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posted Oct 1, 2009

Remeber only 4 500's count and Andy is scheduled to play in Valencia, which looks to be a semi easy field, with the exception of an on form Verdasco and Tsonga, so he'll just pull it back from DP there

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posted Oct 1, 2009

yes players like sod are no competiton at valencia are they

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posted Oct 1, 2009

Gj,
All I can see on the site is Verdasco, Roddick, Simon, Monfils, Tsonga, and Davey, as the draw cards with some and Spanish dudes, so I think the Sod has no chance, as I have already said, if someone is going to steal the last MC spot it is more likely to be Verdasco than the Sod at the mo

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posted Oct 1, 2009

sod is playing there so does have a good chance

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posted Oct 1, 2009

GJ,
Quarters maybe, wouldn't be surprised if he went out in like R2, depends on draw though, and the form of Tsonga, and Verdasco, Monfils mean for the slightly lower players this is a tough tournie, but for A Rod and Murray this is a straight forward torunie, and possibly a full gone conclusion at Murray will win, but it depends on his form and the form of the 3 I have already mentioned. And I have a feeling at the Sod and Verdasco are following each other for the rest of the year, which means unless the Sod does significantly better, I think he will miss the MC

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comment by R1pley (U6720930)

posted Oct 1, 2009

It's not good news, I just hope with a little longer rest it does get better. At least he won't have to worry about playing in the DC for a bit!

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posted Oct 1, 2009

By the sound of it the wrist is almost back to its best so he will hopefully be fit for Shanghai. It ould be a blow if he had to miss that and after all it is still a couple of weeks away. He might just be taking he safe option and dropping less important tournaments. He should not have played and aggrevated it in the Davis Cup. He has caused himself probs for nothing. This is just one of many reasons he should drop it all together and focus on his career. As for Del-P overtaking him in the race does it really matter? He will still be ahead in the rankings. He has got to make sure he is fit for the big ones left this year;
Shanghai (hopefully)
Paris
London
He could also drop the Valencia if he wants to safe his wrist even more but he cant really afford to drop 2 masters. Escpecially when he is defending 1000 points at Shanghai from last year.

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posted Oct 1, 2009

I hope he recovers fully and can come back strong. The Madrid points will fall off and if Del Potro continues his winning stride it may get too close for comfort ranking wise

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posted Oct 1, 2009

Murray is very prone to injury. His wrists seem to be very weak and have bothered him also in the past. His technique is also not very natural putting his joints under a lot of stress. I hope he can have a long career but we should not be surprised if it's over at the age of 24-25

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posted Oct 1, 2009

He will still be ahead in the rankings"

I really think Andy will still be ahead in the rankings come year end but let's not forget he has 2350 (including 1000 for Madrid which was played in October last year) while Del Potro only has 820 (including 250 for Madrid).

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posted Oct 1, 2009

as I have already said, if someone is going to steal the last MC spot it is more likely to be Verdasco than the Sod at the mo


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Em at the moment Verdasco is 7th in qualifying for masters cup, even if his current ranking is slightly distorted, so he doesnt need to 'steal' the last place he will be unlucky not to qualify.

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posted Oct 1, 2009

Sis, I call as I can see it no messing around with points defending loss rubbish, but at the mo it looks like 2 out of Verdasco, Tsonga and Davey

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posted Oct 1, 2009

Good decision. He should take as long as he needs, even if ti meant missing the Masters Cup. If he drops to 5, so what?


Catalan

Be serious!! Murray has had no injury problems for over two years apart from the virus at Aus

Please try and write something constructive about Murray for once, rather than the usual digs

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posted Oct 1, 2009

Banbrotam- there is nothing wrong with what catalan said, he merely stated facts, didnt murray have wrist issues in 06 and a bit of 07? So what lie did he tell?

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posted Oct 1, 2009

I think the comment on Murrays career finishing at 24/25 was what got Banbrotams back up!!!<erm> a little far fetched don't you think???

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posted Oct 1, 2009

Possibly, but banbrotam, will shoot anyone who seems even half anti-murray. He fights for any little thing, yet he says he respects different views, unless their wumming, yet to see evidence of that

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comment by BOO (U12535530)

posted Oct 1, 2009

If anybody's career is likely to be over before they are 24/25 , through injury, I don't think it will be Murray.

Main contenders would be Nadal and Simon.

However lets hope not.

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posted Oct 1, 2009

kingraf

Banbrotam, will indeed "shoot down" lots of posters

However, only the ones who spout WUMery rubbish in their continued ridiculous negative comments about Murray

I've had many debates where I acknowledge Murray's faults and have had very good ones with plenty of people who don't like his game, with absolutely no problem. Indeed you have written some things I agree with

However, if someone is daft enough to think that Murray's injury record in the last 2 years warrants the phrase "Murray is very prone to injury" then they have to be taken to task

Apart from Nole and maybe Roddick, in the last 2 years, I cannot think of another Top 10 player with as good an injury free record

Goodness knows what Catalan must make of Tsonga, Simon and Monfils!!!!!


I just don't understand the need to keep sticking the knife into Murray. Can't we just enjoy possible the best Top 5 we've ever seen and look forward to a superb next two years??

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posted Oct 1, 2009

agree with that ban, we are lucky that we can look forward to another 5 years of murray action and possible more, not doubt each year will get better.

fed doesnt seem to ever get injured he only pulls out due to being exhausted from winning everything.

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posted Oct 2, 2009

Sis, I call as I can see it no messing around with points defending loss rubbish, but at the mo it looks like 2 out of Verdasco, Tsonga and Davey

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Fair enough but it doesn't show it very well. Tsonga is 7th because he has 1000 points from Paris which will drop off, and he is unlikely to defend most of them. As it currently stands Verdasco and Gonzalez are actually the 2 players heading for London and Soderling is closest to them with Davy a wee bit behind.

Tsonga Robredo Cilic Stepanek Monfils Simon and a couple of others have an outside chance.

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posted Oct 2, 2009

Sisi, how far is cilic from making TMC? Id pay big bucks just to see him

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posted Oct 2, 2009

Cilic is about 650 points short of Gonzo, and is in 14th place. He would probably need to make the final of one of the masters and go deep in the other, or possibly even win one of them, I doubt he will be in London.

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posted Oct 2, 2009

comment by The writer known as kingraf vamos (U13929378)
posted 23 Hours Ago

Possibly, but banbrotam, will shoot anyone who seems even half anti-murray. He fights for any little thing, yet he says he respects different views, unless their wumming, yet to see evidence of that
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Excellent comment kingraf, you hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately he's not the only one on here being oversensitive about whatever is said about Murray. There are another 3-4 guys like him

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posted Oct 3, 2009

Nah, Banbrotam's actually pretty much always spot-on with you WUMs, CP.

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posted Oct 3, 2009

Catalan......I'd like to know what you base "His technique is also not very natural putting his joints under a lot of stress" on, and how you are able to say his career will be over by the time he reaches 24/25, only giving him another 2/3 years of pro tennis ?

Such statements are bound to get shot down, so why do you persevere with this type of nonsense.

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posted Oct 3, 2009

comment by Jubbahey (U1737824)
posted 26 Minutes Ago

Catalan......I'd like to know ... how you are able to say his career will be over by the time he reaches 24/25...?
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Hi jubbahey,
please put more attention when reading comments. I never said "his career will be over...", I said "I hope he can have a long career but we SHOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF it's over at the age of 24-25".

There is a big difference between "It will happen" and "It could happen and in that case I won't be surprised".
I don't see anything outrageous in my comment

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posted Oct 3, 2009

Note that 'CP's' technique when asked to support their daft statements is to dwell on a slightly misquoted comment and then act all offended that they are being brought to task

"His technique is also not very natural putting his joints under a lot of stress"

Please explain what you mean, CP, as asked by 'Jubbahey'.

If Murray's Technique which involves a lot of 'soft hands' play and minimal power is poor on his joints, then goodness know how the 'power scamperers' like Nadal, Verdasco, Soderling and Del Potro are going to cope

In other words you've implied that Murray's game puts more stress on his joints than his rivals. This is clear nonsense. However, we eagerly await your Technical Analysis

As I said before, I have no issue with criticism of Murray. 'Lionel.." and 'New Zulu' are two people who, in fairness to them, often make good valid constructive points based on studying his game and looking at his results against others (yes, even NZZ can be constructive)

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posted Oct 3, 2009

banbrotam,

watch next time Murray's strokes focusing on his wrists. You will see how he stresses his wrists too much, in a very unnatural way, especially with his forehand topspin. His continuous defensive moonballing is not healthy either, at least IMHO.
Having said that, he's not the only one pushing his body over the limit, that's why they are that many injuries in professional tennis.

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posted Oct 3, 2009

"His continuous defensive moonballing"

<laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>

Superb analysis, CP!! Murray's done about two moonballs in the last 6 months

But of course you're not a WUM!!

I look forward to more of your insightfully analysis and think you could become Tennis's answer to that cerebral cricket equivalent, Simon Hughes!!

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posted Oct 3, 2009

Except for the occasional brilliant lob

;-)

I don't know - you get swine flu and what
happens?

Murray pulls out of the Japan match. Well
good for him I say, seems like a sensible idea
to protect an already suspect wrist from
further injury

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posted Oct 8, 2009

Dear BBC staff. Shanghai is not in Japan. That is all...

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posted Oct 8, 2009

The one thing we do know from all this is there was an underlying factor to Murray's play in the U.S. open and his early exit, although he never used it as an excuse.

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