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Fisichella to race for Ferrari

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posted Sep 3, 2009

To me, the interesting part of the announcement is that it will "secure Giancarlo's long-term future with Ferrari".

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comment by Andrew (U3247880)

posted Sep 3, 2009

What I don't understand is why every man and his dog denies it's happening, then a day later they admit it is. it's not like it's a cataclysmic decision, just tell everyone to start with so we know who's gonna be racing.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Does this mean that Fisi could be 'racing' for Ferrari in 2010 or maybe just a reserve/test seat?

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posted Sep 3, 2009

I think it will be just a test driver next year.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Yep I expect Fisi to be Ferraris test/reserve driver for 2010 and these 5 remaining F1 races with Ferrari will be his last. Who will actually be in the race seats remains to be seen, but it looks increasingly likely to be Alonso and Massa. Maybe Kimi will be drafted in as a super sub for Spa in between WRC duties?

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Perhaps he may race in 2010, too, if A) he does well in the next 5 races, and B) Massa does not recover well. At least Ferrari has secured a decent test driver who can actually fill in for injured drivers if/when needed - a lesson for all teams.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Prakhar,

applause. You can't compare Fisi against Raikkonen. It's not particularly fair as one is still suffering the awful pain and anguish of bing pulverised by Alonso. Secondly, he hardly know's the car and testing isn't exactly allowed is it? So when Kimi squashes him, he'll hardly be surprising any of us...

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posted Sep 3, 2009

homercles (U3677910) - Kimi's got a contract for 2010, an expensive one; I fully expect and hope him to drive Ferrari next year AND beyond.

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comment by Kyros (U14032491)

posted Sep 3, 2009

Imagin if he wins in Monza?

He will surely gain 'God' status in Italy..

"Fisico for Pope!"

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Ppl752 (U13926452),

"Ferrari next year AND beyond".

applause. You must be stark raving mad if you think Ferrari want to hold onto Kimi. You see, Ferrari want Alonso and Santander coming to Ferrari next year is not exactly a secret, is it?

Alonso and Santander come as a package and joining Ferrari is surely a formality. All this talk is not nonsense. I know a lot of 'hopers' out there think it is.

So when you say beyond, explain Ppl752... laugh

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posted Sep 3, 2009

I have always thought highly of Fisichella and thought he was always overlooked when at Benetton. I hope he does well.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

'Alonso and Santander come as a package and joining Ferrari is surely a formality.'

Total rubbish!

Santander is confirmed at Ferrari with no connection to Alonso. Ferrari has 2 drivers signed for 2010.

I would say: why would they want Alonso when they have 2 drivers on their books that are proven race and championship winners/contenders?

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posted Sep 3, 2009

It's considered an open secret in the paddock that Alonso is going to be in a Ferrari next year.

The general concensus is that Ferrari have stalled on announcing it due to the Massa situation. Prior to his accident they were ready to pay off Kimi and announce the Alonso move, probably at or around Monza. However with Massa's ability to make a come back unconfirmed, Ferrari are in a bit of a pickle - if they let Kimi go and then find Massa can't race again, then they will only have one driver and will have let a perfectly good one go.

I think the Fisi move is actually part of a longer strategy for Ferrari. Now they can release Kimi at the end of the season and confirm Alonso and Massa as their drivers for next year, safe in the knowledge that with Fisi as reserve/test driver, they have a solid back up in the event Massa is unable to return, or unable to race at his previous capacity.

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comment by Andrew (U3247880)

posted Sep 3, 2009

So I take Ian Phillips will be getting a grovelling apology from Vijay now?

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comment by -AvW- (U7004941)

posted Sep 3, 2009

Kimi to brawn. Baracello to Force India.
It is written all over it.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

"why would they want Alonso when they have 2 drivers on their books that are proven race and championship winners/contenders."
Because Santander is from Spain, their biggest market is in Latin America and Spain (you can check the facts in their web page), and Alonso is Spanish with a fairly large fan base in Spain and Latin America.

It is something like Telmex sponsoring a team with no Mexicans. Wait and see what happens in two or three years at F1 with Telmex and Checo, if he continues delivering in GP2. All the Telmex teams all over the world have at least one Mexican driver. They do not have one, they get out!

Spanish minds (including latin americans), even in bussiness do not work as British's do.

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comment by Kyros (U14032491)

posted Sep 3, 2009

Santander are big buisness in Italy aswell as in this country. I think they are looking more at expanding than keeping it spanish tbh

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Fisi has been around for long enough, and driven with team mates of proven quality (Alonso @Benetton in particular...Alonso won 2 titles there) for most people to realise that he just IS NOT THAT GOOD; if he was, Ferrari would probably have signed him years ago, not now, so late in his career, and so late in the season - he's a stop-gap, no more than that

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Fisi exchanged for 4m? what a cheap bargain FI!!doh

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posted Sep 3, 2009

If he can finish second with a Force India car. He should be a first team driver for ferrari. Better than kimi. Kimi has promised too much and delivered very little.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

If I was Fisico I would ignore Kimi and at the remaining GPs concentrate on thrashing Fernando Alonso.

That would then REALLY give Ferrari a problem...

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Kyros:
You do have a point; maybe that is why they want to sponsor an Italian team; however, if your sponsorship money gives you a 10% growth in Italy or a 10% growth in Latin America and Mexico; where would you put your money?? You can do the math by taking the GNPs for all the countries, or the population. Also, which countries have a faster growth rate...

Anyway, time will tell. I do not own Santander; but as a bussiness desicion, betting on the Latin America market makes more sense. Again, look at Slim and Telmex (CARSO group). They are betting on the growing economies.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Kimi has delivered very little???
Does the 2007 title = very little?

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posted Sep 3, 2009

GripRacing

I agree with you Fisi's promising F1 career has been shafted by Flavio moving him around teams that were not competitive and making him play No 2 to Alonso when he returned to the team in 2005

Also the fact that Flav kept him and Heikki waiting at the end of 2007 just so he could get his hands on Alonso and put a non threatening teammate against him ruined his chances of getting decent drives elsewhere

I hope Fisi shows one up to Flavio

Ferrari said they were not going to be competitive at Monza but I think the signing might spur Kimi on even more

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Bit harsh on Force India but im happy for Fisichella.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Im a bit non-plussed about this. Fisi to be reserve driver for 2010? It sounds to me Fisi wasnt too optimistic about finding a drive for 2010, and is now securing his future by being a heavily paid reserve driver for the remainder of his career. It made Luca Badoer a multi millionaire but, especially with the current ban on testing, all Giancarlo will do in 2010, is twiddling his thumbs. What a waste.

Still, congrats on him, and I hope he will display such an impressive pace and results, another team might talk Ferrari out of his reserve driver contract and give him a drive. People say Jenson Button is the silkiest driver on the grid, but I think he is behind Fisichella.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Without being able to test the car, will we really be able to compare him to Kimi in his first couple of races?

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posted Sep 3, 2009

I agree with you Fisi's promising F1 career has been shafted by Flavio moving him around teams that were not competitive and making him play No 2 to Alonso when he returned to the team in 2005

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What a load of nonsense. Fisi could be brilliant on his day but was always far too inconsistent to mount a title challenge. Where did you ever get the idea that he was signed as a n=2 to Alonso?
I seem to remember the 2006 Malaysian GP which resulted in a 1-2 for Renault. Fisi in first and Alonso second.
He was never n=2 to Alonso. The reality is that he was usually unable to keep pace with the spaniard and on the very few occasuons where he was ahead of him no one ever asked to move over.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

I think the thing is why Fisi is he is always gloriously inconsistent. When him and Alonso used to drive for Renault, there were races where Fisi was in the right mind, turned it on, and frequently either won the races or pushed Nando all the way. Then there were races where he didn't drive to his best, didn't push the car, and finished usually in the points biut no on the podium. IF (and a big IF) driving for Ferrari can motivate him more than driving for Renault (possible due to Italian) then we COULD see a rejuvenated Fisi at Ferrari, in which case he could end up winning a couple of the remaining races

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Fisi must be feeling like a kid in a candy store right now, he must be nearing the end of his carrer now, maybe 2 years left at most so to get the opportunity to race for Ferrari for a few races is well a wonderful opportunity especially for an Italian F1 driver (what else could he want?)

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posted Sep 3, 2009

So is Fisichella storms to a few victories in the rest of the season, what's Ferrari's line-up for 2010...?

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posted Sep 3, 2009

sorry but we know how good he is he came second at spa only cause kimi had the kers on his car or he would have came first ...... so if he wins the last few races would we see him there full time and not alonso ???

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posted Sep 3, 2009

So is Fisichella storms to a few victories in the rest of the season, what's Ferrari's line-up for 2010...?


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I doubt very much it would change anything at all because whatever the truth is about Ferrari's line-up for 2010, it more than likely was decided a long, long time ago.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

how stupid for FI

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posted Sep 3, 2009

He was clearly being held back by the Force India car. He'll flourish to his full potential once Ferrari fix their mechanical issues and return to their former greatness.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

I think Fisi held more than his own against the double world champion that Alonso is. Many regard Fernando as the best driver on the grid. Fisi may not be world champion material, hes certainly no slouch. Last weekends race proved that. Pole position in a Force India, keeping within a second of the car from a team that ahs 4 times more money, and bringing the first points ever for Force India...you cannot describe that in any other way than sensationally good.

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comment by -AvW- (U7004941)

posted Sep 3, 2009

McClaren: Hamilton & Frizi
Ferrari: Alonso & Massa
Brawn: Kimi & Button

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posted Sep 3, 2009

So now what, Ferrari have 3 drivers at the start of 2010? I think Massa will be pushed out and perhaps the medical convinced the team he would not drive next year. Why else was the anouncement held until medical result known.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

I thought it did look clear that even when Fisi won the first race in 2005 Alonso was the No 1 in the team

There were suspicions of some races where Fisi was quicker than Alonso but was prevented from beating by being pulled into the pits for a splash of fuel such as Britain 2005

Before Alonso came Fisi was considered Flavio's golden boy ..

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When Dave Richards managed Benetton Fisi and Wurz were evenly matched because he allowed to race and get equal treatment

When Briatore returned to Benetton it was clear Fisi was made No 1 and Wurz No 2...

even when Button joined it was clear he was considered No 2 in the team and Fisi No 1

Flav wanted to drop Button but could not because he signed a 2 year contract and Fisi despite being the better driver in 2001 was released because his contract expired

I have to say 2005 -2006 season it does seem odd that Fisi's Renault was less reliable than Alonso's which was bulletproof

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comment by hendero (U1886449)

posted Sep 3, 2009

What happens to the points Fisichella earned while driving Force India? Do they transfer over and get added to whatever he picks up driving for Ferrari, or does he have to start from nil?

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Fisi's 2nd place at Spa

will count as 8pts towards himself in drivers championship

but also 8pts to Force India in constructors

any points he scores now will count towards Ferrari in the constructors

BTW Fisichella was voted driver of the year in 2002 despite scoring only 7pts in a Jordan Honda in a season where Schumacher won 11 races a record then !

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Got to give Force India some credit here. As Fisi was under contract, surely they didn't have to let him go.

Admitedly he would've been narked if they didn't let him, but my respect for this little team is growing every race. Remember them dis-associating themselves with FOTA too?

Come on Force India!

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comment by bogbot (U9585556)

posted Sep 3, 2009

I find myself supporting Ferrari for the first time since Mansell 1990 now Fisichella is driving for them.

What greater swansong could a driver ask for?

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posted Sep 3, 2009

UK-Minardi-Fan (U12914331)
'Alonso and Santander come as a package and joining Ferrari is surely a formality.'
Total rubbish!
Santander is confirmed at Ferrari with no connection to Alonso. Ferrari has 2 drivers signed for 2010.
I would say: why would they want Alonso when they have 2 drivers on their books that are proven race and championship winners/contenders?

Let me extinguish your statement. First, Santander have not announced they're partnering team Scuderia-Ferrari. Find me a link where they categorically confirm they've signed with them. Not interest, but a fact please. However, we do know they'll be there because a) Alonso; b) the world's best team (to quote a member of their top brass).

You have to be an idiot to think there isn't a Alonso-Santander connection. Granted and this is my own belief, Ferrari needed a top driver and they selected Alonso. A man widely regarded as the best over all package. Moreover, the Santander deal complements everything on the whole. With Alonso there, Santerder-Ferrari became all the more attractive. What i'd like to know is how much space they'll get on the car. You have to take Marlboro into consideration. Any ideas? whistle

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posted Sep 3, 2009

I hope Fisichella gets to show his true talents without any team orders

his talents merits more than 3 wins he has achieved so far in his F1 career

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Il Leome

And how do you explain Malaysia 2006 then?
I thought Fisi won, a few seconds in front of Alonso.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Associated Press

Even if Santander sponsor Ferrari because of Alonso
the chief backer will be Marlboro -- they will not move aside to let Santander be the chief sponsor unless they move to another team and Brawn would be the best choice

The official team entry for Ferrari is Scuderia Malboro Ferrari and will be for the forseeable future unless Ferrari decided to turf them for Santander

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posted Sep 3, 2009

f1fredastairemk2

Fisi won because he started on pole but Renault messed up Alonso's fuel for Q3 which meant he was carrying more fuel than he should have

If Alonso had started higher I think the results would have been reversed

Plus it came on the back of the Bahrain GP where Fisi's car was suffering from engine misfire he was saying the car was s*** on the radio... the previous week so they had to give Fisi a better prepared car

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Yes but Alonso only finished 3 or 4 sec (can't be bothered to check but it was something along those lines) behind Fisi. It would have been very easy for the team to order the positions be switched, a la Massa-Raikkonen in China 2007.
And please don't go banging the drum about team order restrictions, you know perfectly well that the rule doesn't mean a thing in reality.
According to your line of thinking then it'd be impossible not to claim Lewis was very much Ron Dennis's "golden boy" in 2007.
And at least for all his faults, Briatore was never heard to comment: "We are racing Kimi, we are racing Fisi"!
Almost invariably, Fisi was simply not as quick as Alonso, and you'd have to be very deluded to pretend otherwise.

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