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behavedave (U13777649) posted Jul 12, 2009 In old money thats a hundred miles and a total of 7,798ft total climbed. Quite a day in any amateurs frame of reference.
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Paul R - BBC Sport (U5611929) posted Jul 12, 2009 Having ridden it in last year's Etape I'll be feeling the sprinters pain as they drop off the back with 20km still to climb!
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tgsgirl (U12454324) posted Jul 12, 2009 I think Wiggo's too high up to be allowed to escape... they couldn't let Evans go either, and Wiggins' got a better final TT! They may not think he can win (I don't think he can win) but letting him ride is a risk!
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SewerSide (U11663617) posted Jul 12, 2009 Good morning all. I think Astana will set some pace at the front of the peloton, to try and shake Nocentini and get AC in yellow. It'd be nice to see some attacks from the likes of Evans, Sastre & Menchov, to see if Astana rates them as contenders still. Menchov's so far down, he might even be allowed a breakaway!
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Fisgon (U14067153) posted Jul 12, 2009 Would love to know when Armstrong is going to test himself against Contador....sadly I don't think it will be today....
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tgsgirl (U12454324) posted Jul 12, 2009 Danny Pate in a breakaway! Good lad, trying to make up for your more than disappointing tour so far. They're a couple kilometres far and already they're talking and bickering though. Not a good sign.
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tgsgirl (U12454324) posted Jul 12, 2009 The breakaway does not have the peloton's blessing: no Liquigas, no Rabo and now Popo is getting angry at the head of the main bunch.
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Paul R - BBC Sport (U5611929) posted Jul 12, 2009 Jens will whip the stuffing out of them to get them over the Col!
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L'Alpe D'Huez (U4860739) posted Jul 12, 2009 I reckon all the GC contenders will be reserved in their attacks, apart from maybe Schleck brothers, because I think they all realise that the Astana mountain train will keep a tight grip on them today, and will prefer to wait until Astana are fighting amongst themselves before making their bid for the yellow jersey.
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behavedave (U13777649) posted Jul 12, 2009 Wiggins is a largely unknown quantity in a great position, they'd be foolish to let him go without at least learning at what points he runs out of steam (sorry I know you guys love your Petrol/Diesel analogies without me bringing in steam
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vidic4ever (U11870489) posted Jul 12, 2009 Astana don't want the yellow as it will cause them to expand more energy in defending in for the remainder of the tour. Unless a mass of attacks from various teams and contenders ie. schlecks, menchov, evans, sastre, wiggins, nibali, vandevelde, Sanchez this will cause Astana to raise the tempo and perhaps get them flustered and knock them out of rhythm and make them drop nocentini and take up the yellow which they will have to defend
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winnerfrogman (U13932476) posted Jul 12, 2009 About time Voigt showed himself to be honest?
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winnerfrogman (U13932476) posted Jul 12, 2009 Nocentini going with LA.......the Italian rider certainly doesn't want for "Cojones"?
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tgsgirl (U12454324) posted Jul 12, 2009 Too bad, I would've liked to see how much Cav wants green if the bunch was still together at the intermediate sprint.
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winnerfrogman (U13932476) posted Jul 12, 2009 4 man group with Vigt and Pellezoti clear with a 45 second gap to the rest.
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winnerfrogman (U13932476) posted Jul 12, 2009 Rest Day/Media Day tomorrow making possession of the yellow jersey even more important.......especially for a relatively small team like Agritubel?
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daveandeddie (U13958817) posted Jul 12, 2009 I thought Thor moght have got into the break until the first sprint. No matter. Cav has to do some serious thinking. He's not going home empty handed so I think he shpuld take the green jersey seriously. Thor knows what he's doing and I doubt Cav will beat him if he only goes for stage wins.
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tgsgirl (U12454324) posted Jul 12, 2009 The right breakaway has escaped now: Voigt, Pellizotti, Duque and Fedrigo.
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GoodPandaPanda (U11931881) posted Jul 12, 2009 Why is Carlos Sastre 'tweeting' in English. Little bit suspect if you ask me, sure it isn't a fake?
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thewholehog (U13852818) posted Jul 12, 2009 I can't see these 4 staying away - there'll be another attack on the Tourmalet though, despite the long run to home. I can't see the others being fast enough up the Tourmalet to stay away with Pellizotti, who'll need to be putting some time in to the group if he is thinking about the stage win. On the other hand, if Pellizotti's just after polka dot points, then that may be all this is about.
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tgsgirl (U12454324) posted Jul 12, 2009 Panda -
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thewholehog (U13852818) posted Jul 12, 2009 Churruka now going off the front of the peleton as well. Could be interesting if he and Ten Dam get together. Just don't ask how to pronounce his name. Ten as in 10, Dam as in Damn.
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winnerfrogman (U13932476) posted Jul 12, 2009 Tgsgirl.....we may have got off on the wrong foot yesterday(resolved I think?) but I rate your insights so.....question:
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SageAge (U14067248) posted Jul 12, 2009 It would be good to know what the prevailing winds are going to be for the last 10 km up in the mountains. This will indicate if this tiny group of two climbers and two sprinters will be able to defend themselves, or if Contador will be able to break and stay away from Armstrong. Contador should also stop complaining he now knows that there are few teams in the tour that can control an Astana team with that many strong riders. He has carte blanche as many can serve as decoys, wittingly or unwittingly.
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tgsgirl (U12454324) posted Jul 12, 2009 There are two guarantees in this Tour: Txurruka attacks and Furlan is the first to drop from the peloton.
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alfie_nz (U12514404) posted Jul 12, 2009 I hope cavendish drops off the grupetto and finishes outside of the time cut off.. :0
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tgsgirl (U12454324) posted Jul 12, 2009 Frogman - I don't do grudges, we're good!
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winnerfrogman (U13932476) posted Jul 12, 2009 Egoi Martinez pretty prominent again.......like the look of him but perhaps "pyrennean fever" is fuelling the spaniard?
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thewholehog (U13852818) posted Jul 12, 2009 Duque now been dropped from the first 3 on the road. Group of 6 or so chasing including Karpets, Ten Dam and Txurruka and Paulinho about 20 secs of the main peleton, then another group of 6 or so just off the peleton. It's all going a bit mental
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wyndbrook (U13716614) posted Jul 12, 2009 Alfie - and very best wishes to you as well!
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thewholehog (U13852818) posted Jul 12, 2009 We approach one of the geants du tour. Literally means 'bad route' apparently, though good to watch if not to race over.
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winnerfrogman (U13932476) posted Jul 12, 2009 Alfie......looks like Thor may be the one getting dropped out?
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tgsgirl (U12454324) posted Jul 12, 2009 Voigt drops anchor, Pellizotti and Fedrigo go on solo.
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winnerfrogman (U13932476) posted Jul 12, 2009 Dropping like flies now......Riblon pays the price for his aggression over the last few days.
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tgsgirl (U12454324) posted Jul 12, 2009 Frogman -
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GoodPandaPanda (U11931881) posted Jul 12, 2009 Peter, who are those three magnificent cyclists in the video?
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Alex Murray - BBC Radio 5 live (U516526) posted Jul 12, 2009 This looks like a complete waste of two decent climbs. Really can't see the point in putting potentially decisive climbs in and then placing them so far from the line as to render them pointless.
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tgsgirl (U12454324) posted Jul 12, 2009 I agree Alex, it's almost blasphemy to waste such a legendary climb by having 70k behind the top. You'd think the TdF guys would know how to design a route by now!
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winnerfrogman (U13932476) posted Jul 12, 2009 Popo,Ballan and stage 7 winner Feilleu fall away.......surprised to see popovych suffer like this but then,this is THE tourmalet I suppose.
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winnerfrogman (U13932476) posted Jul 12, 2009 Slightly disagree Alex......too many mountain finishes makes for an unbalanced Tour?
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Ferdiboy (U591031) posted Jul 12, 2009 Can anyone remember the last time the Tourmalet was a stage finish?
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tgsgirl (U12454324) posted Jul 12, 2009 There's €5000 up for grabs for the first man to reach the Tourmalet summit by the way.
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andypints (U1890323) posted Jul 12, 2009 Anyone managed to get the live commentary working?
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winnerfrogman (U13932476) posted Jul 12, 2009 I agree that such a stage won't effect the top GC guys but it will cut a bit of driftwood away.....after all if all we're worried about is the top 20 then why have 20 9 man teams start the race?
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tgsgirl (U12454324) posted Jul 12, 2009 But guys who are going to get dropped now, at this pace, are guys who wouldn't have survived anyway and guys who are of no importance in the GC. So it doesn't matter if they're dropped. There is no incentive to make something happen, so it's "group escapes, group rides around solo for a long while, someone in group wins". I'm ok with some of the lesser fellows winning it (I like it actually) but I wanna see some fight as well!
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behavedave (U13777649) posted Jul 12, 2009 winnerfrogman - because there are four Jerseys to contend for not just one. Page 1 of 3 HINTS & TIPSDeleting comments You are in charge of your own space - if you see an offensive comment, you can delete it Reasonable debate is allowed - please don't delete a comment just because you don't agree with it If you are not sure, or feel a comment warrants further attention, you can refer it to a moderator instead |