posted Jul 1, 2009

Man City has an excellent history and one of the best stadiums in the country. But you don't have the history and that makes the best players want to play for you YET! Keep buying the very good players and the trophy’s will role in.
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so what are you saying exactly? Do we have history or don't we have history??? I'm confused

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posted Jul 1, 2009

However, why can Man City not build a solid team of very good players before reaching for the stars as if they have an automatic right to have them play for your team? Build a squad; cement yourself in the top 4 or 5. Get a good challenge for the league going. Get a good run or even trophy in the cabinet before making out landish bids for the best players in the world.

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so, to sum up, with all our new wealth we shouldn't try and buy the best players but ones who aren't quite the best, just a little bit worse?....

Why???


If you won the lottery you wouldn't go out and buy used car would you?

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posted Jul 1, 2009

Man City has an excellent history and one of the best stadiums in the country. But you don't have the history and that makes the best players want to play for you YET! Keep buying the very good players and the trophy’s will role in.
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so what are you saying exactly? Do we have history or don't we have history??? I'm confused

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He's saying we are good, but we're sheet and can therefore attract the kind of players we need but will fail to get our intended transfer targets. We have a good chance of breaking the top 4 in the near future, but we should just give up now because it will never happen. Also, our team is excellent, but we need significant strengthening in every single area as they are all useless.

What part don't you get?

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posted Jul 1, 2009

Sorry Trev, I'm just a silly ol thicko..... now where's that dunce cap???

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posted Jul 1, 2009

thanks tricky now i get it.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

Has he got a split personality??

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posted Jul 1, 2009

Has he got a split personality??

That makes four of us

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posted Jul 1, 2009

Actually, he makes some pretty valid points. Building slowly and only then trying to attract world beaters is prabably more sustainable in the long run.

Althogh I'd be happy to see Eto'o at City, paying him such vast sums is a little uncomfortable.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

But you don't have the history and that makes the best players want to play for you YET!

***Take 'and' out of this sentance***

Apart from highlighting a slight grammer error, which it was. You still didn't answer the question joeymancityz.

Are you an English teacher determined to clean up the 606 board. Or do you not have an answer or opinion? You could or read around the mistake.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

Quick translatation.

"Stop looking at good players as we're getting worried. Know your place !"

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posted Jul 1, 2009

I switched off as soon as you said 'Dunne and Richards are both excellent defenders'!

I suppose theres a point in there somewhere, in that it would be better if big players joined us out of desire to play for usrather than money. However, only the big 4 can really claim to attract big players for that reason, and even for the likes of Utd and Chelsea there are many cases where players just go for the money.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

But you don't have the history and that makes the best players want to play for you YET!

***Take 'and' out of this sentance***

Apart from highlighting a slight grammer error, which it was. You still didn't answer the question joeymancityz.

Are you an English teacher determined to clean up the 606 board. Or do you not have an answer or opinion? You could or read around the mistake
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I am neither an English teacher or a mindreader who can see that you omitted the word 'and'. But my point still remains that in the same paragraph you say we have an excellent history but not a history which would entice the best players to come to us. I'm not being a pedantic smartarse here. I genuinely dont know what point you are trying to make with this

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posted Jul 1, 2009

Too much is made of this history thing, City are 129 years old, how much more do you want? Check out teams like Bayer Leverkusen or Paris St. Germain, they are supposed to be in the higher echelons of European football but their history is practically non-existent compared to ours.

By the way I'm not a wum or an unwanted interloper, as soon as my account is out of moderation I will complete my profile.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

Point 1) why do you care. You're not a city fan

Point 2) We (the fans) have no say in who we buy or play. So maybe you should address your questions to Gary Cook and MarK Hughes. That way you will get the true answer to all your misgivings.

Thanks for your care and interest though.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

Sorry, meant to add. Glad you're ok with the Sheik spending his money as he wants. Seeing as IT IS HIS.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

liverpool and manu fans have a different understanding of the word history..they mix it up with success....notts county have more history than liverpool and manu as do everton. not as successful but more history as they have been around from day 1 of the league....comprende????

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posted Jul 1, 2009

Talking of history, could the OP tell us the name of the last British/Irish player to come through the ranks at Liverpool.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

OP is so pathetic he had my last post removed. Bit sad that given he couldn't even answer a question. All I said was we had the same number of prem titles as they do and that history means nothing.

If you can't handle the come backs scouser stay off our board.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

History can be defined by having iconic ex-players like Bert Trautman and still holding the record for an English league attendence. Football may have started in 1992 for some but not for everyone.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

And can anyone confirm that City were the last team to win the English title with an All English team in 67-68 ?

I've heard it said but never checked it and I currently have no GOOGLE

If True , If that's not history then I don't know what is !

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posted Jul 1, 2009

Gaz, it's true based on the 11 men who played the most games that season.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

The team that won the cup winners cup 70/71 were all English

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posted Jul 1, 2009

Going by his profile. If my assumption is right. He is from Rylands an area of Lancaster.
Just to say they make Rednecks/Dingles look like Albert Einstein. Sorry if i offend any decent from Rylands. Just my way to have a dig at the OP.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

The OP makes it sound like we're only out to get galacticos. What a numpty! Try taking your head out of the Sun for five minutes and look at who we've actually bought. RSC, Barry and Taylor are not "star" players, they are there to build and consolidate the side. I'd even argue that Tevez doesn't yet fit into the galactico role, but then we don't have our hands on him yet anyway.

So what if we make a punt for Eto'o? We have the funds and if we never ask, we'll never know if he'd come or not. It's not like we can't afford it. And if he turns us down, so be it. Plenty more fish in the sea.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

The facts about winning trophies with an all English squad are of real historical significance. Because of the multi-national nature of modern football, those records will probably stand forever.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

I'm not a big fan of all this 'top 4 or failure' for this coming season. With the ins and (expected) outs of the last 6 and coming 2 months, the squad needs time to play together, gel and gain confidence as well as play the right tactics. Non-European football next season might be viewed as a failure, but with Villa and Everton adding more depth to their squads even that will be a challenge.

I'm confident we can do it, and am still drooling over the prospect of Tevez (not so much Eto-o who really seems to be doing all he can to dodge a move).

Quietly confident, but lets not start bragging about high and mighty aims because we'll end up like Spurs fans.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

I don't think you'll break into the top 4 this season. You're trying to rebuild an entire squad, and it's going to take time for all the new players you draft in to click together. It's not just about buying the best players - you've got to get them working as a team, and that doesn't happen overnight. And seeing the names touted in the media as your potential transfer targets, it's going to be hard to manage some of those egos, especially when success isn't immediate.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

no way can man city go in top 4

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posted Jul 1, 2009

Sorry to jump in, dirty United fan as I am, but can I just say that I'd be amongst the first to say that history means NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING!

I can 100% promise you that if City qualified for the CL next season, then got into the quarters/semis the following season, players would be gagging to come to the COM.

All that matters is that you're a success NOW, football waits for no one.

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posted Jul 1, 2009

hardtobeat

Thank God one of you speaks some sense!! Fair play to you mate!!

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posted Jul 1, 2009

All this talk of how much city are willing to pay Eto is rather anti city. Ronaldo leaves man u for his "dream club" but he didnt stay on the same wages did he ? he wanted more and even a bigger share of the rights issue! Until City start to win big things they will have to pay more to attract the very best but fair play for having a go. If city had paid 18 million for valencia we'd have been laughed at!

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posted Jul 1, 2009

I believe Man City will not put in a concrete challenge for the top 4 this season and may struggle to get into Europe.

1. Its going to take time for a number of signings to adapt to the club as well as gel with their team mates

2. Mark Hughes will struggle to find his best formation and to balance the team

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posted Jul 2, 2009

Rovers fan in peace here. I do hope that you guys break into the top 4 and go on and win the league, partly because I don't like the arrogant Scotsman and the fans of the other club in Manchester (although we all know true mancunians support City! :D).

I only see one problem when it comes to attracting the big names and no it isn't a lack of trophies or history. The problem is the manager. Now don't get me wrong, I think hughes is a great manager but with him in charge you'll need to start winning cups, etc, before attracting the big name players on stupid salaries. If you had a big name manager, for example a Mourinho or a Wenger, then the big name players would be more likely to come as the big manager would convince them they were building a team to win things.

Anyway, that's my two cents on the matter. As I said before, I really do hope you guys can start competing for the title. But beware of Santa Cruz's magical injuries when he decides he wants to move on!

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posted Jul 2, 2009

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Cheers Fella. TBH some of us do have the same thoughts but the Big Boss is backing Hughes for this season at least so we have to sit tight and see what transpires. The target is 6th minimum set by the chairman so if Hughes does not achieve that then I think we all know what will be coming. I think it's fair to give him the chance though and the fans need to back him for this season.

As for RSC don't know too much about him apart from what I've seen in a Rovers shirt so will take your word on that.

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posted Jul 2, 2009

I understand where TexasDanger's coming from but since the CL, clubs that aren't in it have little or no time to build. Every time you get a half decent player come through the ranks or a smart purchase, a CL team comes and and the players say "It's a short career, follow my dreams, CL football is the pinnacle" blah, blah, blah.
Also if you're trying to buy a player it's the same story, they want CL football.
To my mind you've got 2 choices - go for it like Leeds and Newcastle?
Be lucky like City and Chelsea and buy your way in. I say good luck to them.
PS. I have to agree with Sambaisgod and think your weak link could be Hughes

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posted Jul 2, 2009

I cannot understand Santa Cruz's "failure is anything but the top 4" attitude. It's completely unrealistic.

First, City need some stability. They need to reach a point where they don't have to bring in a lot of players every summer, and where they can consistantly improve their place in the table. Signing every big name they can think of isn't going to do this. Signing players who are needed, who can perform week in and week out will to this, even if they're not rated so highly.

A more realistic goal for City this season would be the Europa Cup. Fulham, who are in the Europa Cup, had only three more points then City. However, City need to work on defending- while they had a better goal difference then two Europa Cup teams (Fulham and Villa), they let in more goals then both teams, and only had a superior goal difference because of the number of goals they scored. Improving their away record is a must. Without it, they will continue to languish mid-table, and that was a major factor in them finishing tenth this year.

Once stability and/or a Europa Cup spot have been secured, bringing in a new, more high-profile manager would be the next step. Mark Hughes does not seem the type to bring CL football to the club. I don't know whether Wenger or Mourinho would be interested, but a manager who has CL experience would be necessary. Whoever it is would also have to be able to manage all the superstars City are bringing in.

After that, doing well in the Europa Cup while continuing to push for a CL spot would be helpful. This is where the unrestrained buying of City would do them well: that's a lot of games for any team, and having a number of players would make it easier and allow them to rest.

The thing about City that will come back to haunt them again and again is the loyalty of their players. There will be players at City, if not now then in the future, who are playing for the cash, not for the history of the club and the blue shirt on their backs. They must also be careful not to become the English Real Madrid, buying every half-decent player in sight. This doesn't bring trophies, it brings a dressing room full of egos, and a field of 11 superstars, not a team.

If City can do things the right way, it's not unrealistic to think that within the next 10 years, they could be a CL team. It is unrealistic to think that it will happen this year.

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posted Jul 11, 2009

City keep buying small strikers. They need someone big and strong.

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