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posted Jun 16, 2009

I'm not betting on it but on paddypower I see that David Toms is 66/1 and Lucas Glover (the best all round driver on tour at the moment and having a good year) is at 175/1.

Tiger doesn't really give good odds at 7/4 so i'd certainly consider Toms and Glover each way, or possibly even without Tiger in the field - 45/1 and 125/1 respectively.

It's worth mentioning though that I am a particularly poor gambler when it comes to sport - cards is a (not greatly) different matter goodluck

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posted Jun 16, 2009

The winner will come from:
Woods
G.a.y.
Ogilvy
Charlie Wi

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comment by subpar (U11064707)

posted Jun 16, 2009

Good call on Glover Chilli, he was very close to making my team for GW's fantasy event, but just lost out....

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posted Jun 16, 2009

Betting on golf is just crazy as over 4 days any golfer in the field could possibly win it if they bring their A game. I always wait till day 2 to have a bet and anybody within 8 shots are in with a shout unless tiger is leading.

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comment by subpar (U11064707)

posted Jun 16, 2009

That part of the buzz Nalaroc ?

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posted Jun 16, 2009

Harrington, McIlroy, Ogilvy and Poulter will be my bets. I'm tempted by Garcia, but he has let me down so many times in the past in the majors that I find it hard to put my hard earned cash on him anymore.

Of the Americans, O'Hair and Stricker look like the best options.

I'd love Phil Mickelson to win it, as he's a dude. He's been runner up 4 times including last time it was at Bethpage.

It's well worth taking the Tiger on as he's not back to his brilliant best yet after his long lay off.

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posted Jun 16, 2009

I'll repeat my previous post:

Garcia @ 33/1
Zach Johnson @ 50/1
Villegas @ 50/1

All each way and have to get past poor form, lack of length of the tee and there being no indication they have any chance of winning this tournament respectively for me to be in the money.

I can't see much value in outright wins as I feel TW is that much of a favourite after the Memorial. I at least backed him that weekend but at 7/4? No thanks.

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comment by Lex (U12771108)

posted Jun 16, 2009

For betting tipsters this guy is the dogs, he has winner of some sort in nearly every tournement he tips on..............he gave Gay at a massive 40/1 last week, he really knows his stuff, give it a read.

http://www.bettingzone.co.uk/golf/betting/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=golf/09/06/15/manual_132635.html

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posted Jun 16, 2009

Interesting tip for Dustin Johnson. Thought he might be one to follow this year. Hope he progresses steadily. Whats happend to another young American Anthony Kim? All the rage last year but nowhere this?
I like backing the young guns on the tour events but for a Major its not so likely that a youngster can make the breakthrough. Even the recent first time major winners haven't been so young (Tiger aside).
I've got a feeling for the Goose (steady!) this year. He's won it twice, is ice cold on the greens and has been in good form for a couple of months. 6 places being offered for Paddy Power's 40/1 is good value in my book.

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posted Jun 16, 2009

100/1 is a brilliant value for Curtis, subpar.

Think O'Hair is also a decent shout.

And wouldn't mind knowing what they're offering on Michael Sim . . . .

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posted Jun 16, 2009

kwini,

paddypower has him at 250/1 - is that enough to tempt you to break the rules over in the good ol' US of A?

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posted Jun 16, 2009

Tiger is hitting the fairways and I can't see beyond him unfortunately, of the rest I think our very own Paul Casey will do well as he loves the course and is in form.

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posted Jun 17, 2009

In the end last night I backed the following players:

Harrington 45-1 Each Way
McIlroy 50-1 Each Way
Garcia 50-1 Each Way
Mahan 50-1 Each Way
Poulter 66-1 Each Way

Ogilvy was too short at 16-1 with all the other good players in the field despite his obvious chances. O'Hair's wife is pregnant and might have to walk off the course during the tournament to attend the birth, and Stricker was too short a price at for me at 33-1 considering his lack of major pedigree.

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posted Jun 17, 2009

You think Stricker is Too short at 33/1 but have back McIlroy at 50/1???


Dont get ya?

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posted Jun 17, 2009

chilli,
250/1 is a very good price for Sim, might fly over, place a bet, knowing the fine young man from Aberdeen will fund the trip!

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posted Jun 17, 2009

kwini,

You may have to do it soon, now that it's out in the public domain that you 'fancy' the young man (FOR THE TITLE, no puns please) his odds are sure to drop.............laugh

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posted Jun 17, 2009

chilli,
I see many of goldwolf's fantasisers are quicker off the Sim mark than me, the Cat C choice of quite a few 606'ers.

Have you read the BBC report on "Casey set for US Open challenge" on the golf page? Where do they find these writers? In kindergarten??

Apart from the facile stuff, "McIlroy, Mickelson and Rose are also among the competitors", they selectively mention some British and Irish players as if they are the only ones, but McIlroy twice in the "155-strong field". Bland, Clarke, Horsey, Donald etc all excluded, especially strange as DC and Lukey played well last time at Bethpage.

Dear BBC, Of one thing you can be sure, this will not be a "155-strong field", alternates will be queuing up to ensure the regulation 156 get balls in the air.

This may be the worst report ever published on the BBC's Golf page, though competition is fierce.

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posted Jun 17, 2009

kwini,

It is amusing me that they are producing many more articles on golf as the season gets into full flow yet the standard remains fairly poor. I particularly enjoyed Carter's blog on Mickleson, gushing maybe doesn't go far enough love

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comment by Millsss (U7867861)

posted Jun 17, 2009

Yeh mcilroy at 50/1 to win, bit of a long shot for him to win but he can hit the ball as far as any1 and when hes on fire thers no stoppin him, also im northern irish

and ross fisher 80/1 each way, fisher can is in great form and when playing his best could easily storm thru the field on the final day

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comment by matt (U1989790)

posted Jun 17, 2009

i know what youre saying nalaroc but i like the long odds and its interesting from the start - i normally put a few quid on somebody sunday morning if my runners are all on the way home. ive gone for

sergio 55's
woods 2/1
poulter 100's
mahan 75's
westwood 160
j m singh 270

all betfair pricing which seems to make a real difference on the golf.
good luck everyone

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posted Jun 17, 2009

Agreed chilli, Most of Iain Carter's stuff is extraordinarily vanilla with invariably no dialogue, the Ramsay column a good example.

But don't think this is the time or place to criticise Mickelson, though something beyond the utterly trite (see "Woods offers support to Mickelson" - what's he going to do? Say Stevie was right, Mickelson is still a p r i c k??) would be nice.

Paul Fletcher writes terrific blogs (usually somewhat interactive) on football behind the glitz and glitter of the Prem on this site - an excellent example of what should be possible on all sports.

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comment by matt (U1989790)

posted Jun 17, 2009

chilli / kwini
michael sim is 340 to win on betfair or 50's for top 5 if you guys want more value

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posted Jun 17, 2009

50-1 for top five is really good value!!

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posted Jun 17, 2009

JDanfries, I get your point.

McIlroy at 50-1 is a bit of a punt and he is probably under priced for what he has actually achieved. But he has the talent to place in my opinion, whether that talent is enough to over come his youth and lack of experience is a different matter.

I thought Stricker should have been about 50-1, so I thought he was poor value. I've back him before in majors and he's never quite got into serious contention.

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comment by Tatloaf (U1591557)

posted Jun 17, 2009

McIlroy at 50's is a terrible price. Cant see past Woods myself but some longshot eachways I fancy Mallinger (125), Mahan(66), Trahan(200) and i'll whisper very quietly Billy Mayfair(300).

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comment by kkr23 (U13104928)

posted Jun 17, 2009

the greens are usually like formica, so you need nerve to putt,its got to be someone who hits it dead straight off the tee, always is at the US open, and Tiger uses so many 3 woods rather than driver so is very accurate, just look at his driving stats in US opens and how many 3 woods he has hit compared to driver its phenomenal.
furyk will fold under pressure Sunday and Casey is great at non Majors , infact he is rubbish record in majors, mind you its a lot better than mine!! (thats no record at all)!
so who has been hitting it straight and is a great streaky putter,, Zach Johnson,80/1 what a bet each way. my 35p is on him!!

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posted Jun 18, 2009

couldnt be bothered with backing a selection- i put all my eggs in one basket- ian poulter at 100/1 and each way at 17/1, its great value odds so i took it.

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posted Jun 18, 2009

not each way but top 5.

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posted Jun 18, 2009

After all that Roaky , your not backing Casey???

You turncoat!!!

See your wasting your money on another overated Brit!!!

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posted Jun 18, 2009

"As well as Casey and Justin Rose, Englishmen Lee Westwood, Ian Poulter, Ross Fisher and Oliver Wilson are taking part."

I guess Luke Donald is now a forgotten man ? Well I have put a couple of quid on him each way even if the BBC are not prepared to mention him in their report. Hunter Mahan is another good outside bet for a top spot.

The heavy conditions will play a real part in sorting out the men from the American sunshine players.

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posted Jun 18, 2009

Luke Donald doesnt hit it far enough, and that will be particularly evident with how wet the course is.

My selections all back on betfair are...

Garcia
G.a.y
Wi
Cink
Curtis

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comment by Sparkle (U6726749)

posted Jun 18, 2009

All the current Major holders out in the same group...wow!

Rose for the title.

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posted Jun 18, 2009

jd- i only take good value odds- how is casey at 25/1 good value.

poulters was superb value at 100/1, 66/1 1st behind tiger or 17 top 5..

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posted Jun 18, 2009

This group looks bad and not logical to me.

http://www.ekhichdi.com/football/

Tina

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posted Jun 18, 2009

Just after you making out how good Casey was that made me think you were either Casey himself or at least you would be putting your money where your mouth is. So if he is as good as you think he is, and he is World Number 3 after all then surely 25/1 is good value???

As for Poulter, 1000/1 would be poor value

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posted Jun 18, 2009

jd you are a first rate..

i have never said casey was- whatever, just said you have no idea (which is clear as day)and are aginst brit golfers for a illogical reasons.

there is no reason why any one or a few of them cannot rise up to the next level and win majors.

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posted Jun 18, 2009

if casey is to win a major- he will have more change at the masters.

he is a bomber.

poults is a lower hitter/straight hitter/clutch putter not as prolific as casey and never will be, but has finished 2nd in two of the last big 4(the open and the players). he also seems to shoot the same scores whether the courses are hard or not.

he is a very good bet, esp the top 5..

casey at the masters allways- not on these odds for this week- but yes i have just stuck a few quid on him at 18/1 as winner without woods.

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posted Jun 18, 2009

Roaky

Id love you to explain what I have no idea about.

Do you watch any tournament golf? Do you even play golf?

You went on all yesterday about how good Casey is and then you said how your backing IAN POULTER.

Casey is better than Poulter - but neither, WILL EVER EVER win a major - why, because they aint good enough

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posted Jun 18, 2009

jd no i was backing up casey, against your immature talk- and yes i play golf- i play of 4, and used to play for surrey- been watching golf for over 25 years- and have played with many of the pros you talk about

how about you?

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posted Jun 18, 2009

Play off +1, have played for yorkshire, played in the open at St Andrews when John Daly won, failed miserbaly at trying to make the cut. Lost out in a playoff last year to get into the open, and will be attempting to qualify this year at Goswick.

Have played in 2 european tour events and have been as low as +4 - turned professional and I am now back amongst the amateur ranks.

So believe me I know what im talking about, I played with Paul Casey about 10 years ago in Brigoed France, and whilst he can cetainly play a bit, he is not Major material. Also had the dis pleasure of playing with justin Rose, but I wont go into that

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comment by Owen (U5944801)

posted Jun 18, 2009

Poulter and Casey are both capable of winning majors titles, to suggest they will NEVER EVER WIN a major is incredibly short sighted.

Remember last year's Open? Poulter came very, very close and only Harrington's amazing back nine prevented him from lifting the Claret Jug - Nick Faldo himself sighted this single performance as his primary reason for picking Poulter for the Ryder Cup last year. He saw that killer instinct, and Faldo knows a thing or two about winning majors...

Both players have the skills, the shots and the natural abilities to win a major. And possibly even more importantly, both players have a strong self belief, they won't wilt if they are in contention.

And come Sunday night, lets hope that they are.

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posted Jun 18, 2009

Its terrible when patriotism gets in the way and clouds peoples judgement!!!

Tim Henmam for Wimbledon anyone??

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comment by matt (U1989790)

posted Jun 18, 2009

i think jd and roakey need to put the handbags down!!

whilst i appreciate youve been round the block jd its a bit tiresome hearing people say that casey and poults will never win a major. i dont think hamilton, mcheel, curtis etc (theres a long list) ever would have been in the major contender catergory but it can happen. do you think youre just hacked off that these guys arent reaching potential??

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posted Jun 18, 2009

well its pretty obvuious jd hasnt been round the block at all!

he has no inclination of what is required to become a winner!

he adverservely judges british players.

anyway- my poults bet is looking good(early days)- but the way the course is playing- it really does suit his style of play.

thats the point- its about picking players that can handle the conditions faceing them- its not allways about the best golfers that will win everywhere.

i rembember pre ryder cup- i was saying that poults will be the top point scorer- and i got the whole jd rubbish from 90% of people- of course we all know what happened then!

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posted Jun 19, 2009

Roaky you are really very wrong. I have won planty and know exactly what is required.

Brabazon, Welsh Amateur, Hampshire Hogg.......

I am not judging the like of Poulter, Casey etc because they are British, I am Judging them on ability alone.

Yes Poulter was very impressive in the Ryder Cup, but even I wasnt suprised, IT WAS MATCH PLAY, very different to stroke play as im sure you know!!

Poulter has the enviable qualities for match play that Im sure the likes of us would love. He is a fighter, believes very much in his own ability and never give in , but in fact isnt actually that good!! Aside from his good performance in the open last year, his stoke play career hasnt been great. But match is againt 1 person not against the course.

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posted Jun 19, 2009

poulter has the bottle and the game, golf is strange compared to most simple sports its so complicated in compaison, its not like tennis(where it really is only about certian specific shots in the heat of the moment, in my prime i could play shots that some of the better golfers around me could never play in there dreams(one player that had won the surrey amatuer).

poulters carrer is one of the most amzing ones we could ever think- the guy turned pro of 4- yes 4, the same handicap at my prime. its astonishing

i have played with a golfer(yongest ever to play in th open) who got to +4 , who ok has had injuries but he would never have got to 17th in the world like poults.

golf is predominantly about your mental game and course management- and poulter is not short,not long but neither was faldo(who obviously sees many similarities), neither was kite, neither was olly neither was many.

but poults has a deceptively amazing short game, and clutch putting attribute, reminescent of the best- he is also fundementally so consitant.

you also say that casey isnt good enough- well he has a top long game, and can play any shot in the book.

is he the 3rd best in the world.?

no

can he become one of the best
?
yes

does he have the game to win a major?

i think so, certainly

you also seem to judge garcia differently to others, probally because the golf he can play for 80% of big tournys- the problem is when it matters he goes missing, he is a monty/a westwood- no worse and no better.

i remember backing micleson every major for 10 until he won the masters- because it was so obvious to me that he was so much better than his many 2nd places.

i couldnt put poults/garcia or westy in that catergory.

but esp in terms of poult- i feel as if- if he gets in the position- he will not let up.

poults has a big ego- but he has actually delieverd under pressure on 3 occasions with the last 9 months(ryder cup/the open/players(which is not much diff from a pga or us open in the players eyes)

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posted Jun 19, 2009

That is a fair enough assesment of Poulter, and whilst I admire his attiyude , I just dont think he is good enough, (with Woods about) to win a major, I dont have a problem with him, I like his attitude, he is so much more likeable than the likes of Rose, Casey etc. He has something about him, he is a battler . BUT IS HIS GAME GOOD ENOUGH?? I think not!

Garcia battles but I like no doubt you with Mickleson, have lost some on him over the last 8 years or so, when it just seemed he played his way into contention and then played his way out again. Very frustrating.

But just watching the guy hit the ball and comparing it to the others, it is truely phenominal.

I recall when I was play off +4 Gracia was 16 years old and of +6. THat is amazing. I just wish I could have putted for him over the last 8 years. or for that matter, if my mother could have putted for him. He would be a multi major winner. Cos in terms of raw talent and ball striking, Garcia and Big (not so much now) Phil are the only things close to woods!!

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posted Jun 19, 2009

Phil is looking good right now but I hope one of the Englishmen in the mix wins it, the fairway bunkers are making it a bit of a lottery. Good stuff.

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posted Jun 19, 2009

feeling abit gutted for poults- his round(and miginly's )- were 4 shots the better(sss easilt 4 shots higher)- but they got the worst of it.

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posted Jun 20, 2009

comment by chilli-mkII (U13985585)
posted 3 Days Ago

I'm not betting on it but on paddypower I see that David Toms is 66/1 and Lucas Glover (the best all round driver on tour at the moment and having a good year) is at 175/1.

Tiger doesn't really give good odds at 7/4 so i'd certainly consider Toms and Glover each way, or possibly even without Tiger in the field - 45/1 and 125/1 respectively.

It's worth mentioning though that I am a particularly poor gambler when it comes to sport - cards is a (not greatly) different matter

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