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posted May 26, 2009

No, Barca have some world class players, but Utd have more & better players than them.

Chelsea proved they can be stopped from scoring & apart from poor refferring, would have been a repeat final of last year.

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posted May 26, 2009

Outplay? Barca will outplay ManU there's no doubt about it, we have totally outplayed them last year when we were weaker, just look at the statistic at camp nou and trafford. If I reckon right we had 73% of ball possesion and 21 shots on Camp Nou (ManU 8 shots) and on Trafford 64% possesion and 14-8 shots to our favour.

So yea, I'm pretty sure we will outplay the Devils but does that guarantee our win? No way.

I'd love to see ManU open up and engage to an open football match with us but hell will freeze over before this will happen.

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posted May 26, 2009

All depends on what Messi and what Ronaldo turn up. If the Messi that struggles against English teams turns up and the super, unstoppable Ronaldo turns up, Utd will walk it. If the stroppy Ronaldo turns up then Messi would only have to play average to spark something.

Everyone says 11 v 11, it's true but these two spark Utd and Barca to life.

I think Utd will take it, because our defence is too good and our attack will kill Barca's defence.

Should be a great game though. ok

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posted May 26, 2009

Whoever United play they always give the opposition a chance to score. But they always create chances as well. So its down to taking the chances that are presented.

This game is being built up as the best of the best etc. But with all the hype there will invariably be a bit of an anticlimax for the neutral.

I hope (& expect) United to keep it tight and frustrate Barcalona (a tactic that worked last year and almost worked for Chelsea this year).

If United try and play Barca at thier won game then they may well lose.

In the prem, Arsenal play the pretty football, and any team that lets them play that way gets hammered. But lots of prem teams know how to stop Arsenal play (much to Wenger's annoyance), but it is a valid strategy and should not be beneath United to do the same.

COME ON UNITED

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posted May 26, 2009

wer gonna score against barcas defence - its poor when there all fit but without the fullbacks and marquez then theyr screwed

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posted May 26, 2009

As a united fan.. as much as I want to believe we will win, I cannot hide my greatest admiration for Iniesta and Xavi who I refer to as supreme footballers.. As SAF said, I don't think they ever loose the ball as small as they her they protect the ball in a way that you won't be able to even sniff it and it's true that's the way football i smeant to be played but unfortunately it doesn't necessarily guarantee you a win so yes common utd!!!!!

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posted May 26, 2009

It's not about which team has the better players for me. It's about the ability to have a plan B. Basically United have it, Barca don't. If it starts to go wrong for them, they are finished. However they admit themselves there strength is their technique. Man United are no slouches for technique, will break up their play and be physically stronger. If United go 2 up it's all over. If Barca go 2 up United can always get back into it. If Barca win it, it will be a wonder goal in extra time. We can't legislate for injuries or red cards, But 11 V 11 I would fancy United to Shade a tense un pretty affair 1:0 or 2:1 even. There is no way Barca are going to play them off the park unless United have been on the beer the night before. Don't let the demolition of Madrid fool you, Madrid are finished for the moment as European powerhouse. Ronaldo and Rooney on the Wings, Berbatov up front and Anderson pulling strings in Midfield....I think United will do it. These same two for the final next year.

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comment by Biddey (U5284551)

posted May 26, 2009

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I think you'll find it will be different in a one off match. In an two leg tie there is always the danger of conceding an away goal which utd tried to avoid this match will be less tactical and barcelona might get more of the ball but we will create just as many chances if not more

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comment by Joe G (U4314969)

posted May 26, 2009

I get a bit sick of people suggesting so called 'beautiful football' is worth more than other forms. Beautiful football is such an intangible, debatable and somewhat pretentious term to throw around.

There is this idea that you can either be defensively solid and predictable or attacking and flair filled, risking all but apparantly not both. People often site England and Brazil as opposing schools of thought in this clash of styles but it's all nonsense and built entirely on false beliefs.

Brazil may be known for attacking flair but they have the second best defensive record in International football, behind Argentina. At the opposite end England are often painted as being defensive, boring and lacking the flair of teams like Brazil yet have a better scoring record than any other international team.

The same is true with Barca. People look at the number of goals they score and their attacking flair and hold them up as artists, a team that plays beautifully as if this is more important than the results on the pitch. Ask Real if they'd trade 7 of their European Cups, reducing them to the two Barca have in return for a more attacking reputation.

Either view that a certain style of play is 'worth more' than another is equally fatuous. Italy have won four World Cups with a style of football that some would call boring, I somehow doubt that Italian fans sit watching their national team racking up the titles at the same time thinking "oh no, what must other nations think looking at us win with solid defending, how embarrassing."

The winner of the CL league final will be the better team, the style of play they employ will merely be a detail.

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comment by neil_h (U13708936)

posted May 26, 2009

No, Barca have some world class players, but Utd have more & better players than them.

Chelsea proved they can be stopped from scoring & apart from poor refferring, would have been a repeat final of last year.

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Chelsea didnt try and play at all, I dont see Utd doing that which will therefore leave them a little more exposed.

Too close to call I think, but if Xavi and Iniesta can maintain ball retention like they can do then Utd could be up for a type of test they only face when playing Arsenal, the only difference Arsenal dont have the experience to make possesion count.

I cant wait for this game!

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posted May 26, 2009

"Barca will play the same way they have done all season - they will dominate possession, play short, sharp passes and wait for their moment to get in behind the United defence."

What are United best at? Not letting anyone past their back line, and Counter-Attacking... Barca have a quality players like Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Henry ect... but we have a quality team, which has strength in depth and good players in all positions... And we have better individuals, for example Rooney, Ronaldo, Vidic, Tevez... Need I go on?

1-0 to United is my prediction.

This last bit has nothing to do with this match but even though United have enough Central Midfield players, I think we could do with some matchwinners in there. Anderson is a great prospect for the future, but until then, we need someone like Xavi or Iniesta (even thought they would never come)

Im glad I got all this off my chest without my City-Supporting best mates contraddicting me on every point I made :D

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posted May 26, 2009

if barca are on their game, keep possesion of the ball and penetrate then its going to be difficult for united to resist, utd may try to counter attack but barcelona play a high line and there will always be a defender near the centre circle to retrieve the ball and retain possession; thats when its just impossible to play against them...however with a makeshift defence this could be difficult and i think man utd have all the advantage as they have no injury's and only 1 suspension, but my mind still says that barca will win.

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posted May 26, 2009

I hope to see both the passing/moving quality of barcelona and the relentlessness of Utd in the game.

Both teams are at the top of their game and apart from a couple of players missing they'll come in all their strenght.

As spanish my heart lies with "the short ones" but if the final is played as it is supposed to any result will be fair.

Having said this, if I see Utd playing like Chelsea did expect to see me here skulking on thu!

Good luck Utd, and Visca el Barça!!!

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posted May 26, 2009

united will win this one, barca are fantastic and can play at a high tempo but ther gonna need more than one defender at the back if united counter attack. Barca will probly have more of the ball but united will be more of a danger and ther gonna struggle to contain all uniteds attackers. Barca will start to feel the pressure then theyve got a problem.

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posted May 26, 2009

Whatever happens, I hope Xavi comes away with more of the recognition he deserves. The guy who kept Fabregas out of the Spain team (after he'd had a superb season for Arsenal) at the Euro's just doesn't get a mention in the British press (prior to today's article ont' Beeb).

I think the media suffers from an idea that midfielders must be either destroyers or goal scorers. Xavi is neither, he just controls the game.

However, despite his magic and the undoubted talent around him, I can see United's defence dealing more comfortably with Barca's attack than vice versa... I mean, Silvinho marking Ronaldo!!

Goals at both ends but United to win it. The purists must wait another year!

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posted May 26, 2009

I think it is going to come down to defence and goalkeeping, as in their previous meetings possession was shaved by Barcelona hence restricting United to counter attacking - which they are very good at - , but Barcelona's shooting was woeful.
On Wednesday, whoever tests the goalies more will win and I think United will do it if their defence is solid. It's going to be nervy and likely not to be a classic.
United winning last year with the same squad will give them the edge. Ronaldo to score the winner.
Come on United !!!

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posted May 26, 2009

Barcelona play the most beautiful football of any club side in the world. They are committed to free-flowing attacking football, and are sure to win the Champions League, which their beautiful football richly deserves…. Blah, blah, blah.

I’m sick of it.

Ever since Barca were destined to be drawn against the cream of the Premiership we’ve been bombarded with the news that Barca are irresistable and beautiful to watch.

Now I know this is controversial, but I have to say what an ABSOLUTE LOAD OF RUBBISH!

Barcelona have easily the most technically gifted starting 11 of any club side in world, possibly any club side in history. They play, essentially with only 2 defensive players on the pitch. All are comfortable on the ball. Their strikers and wide men constantly drop deep and change position. At times they will have no out-and-out front man - no one for the opposition defenders to mark. In fact, at times they are able to out-number their opposition midfield by 2 or 3 men. Each player who recieves the ball has 3 or 4 realistic options to make an easy pass. Each of his options is a technically excellent player.

As soon as they win back the ball their 3-pronged attack push as far forward as they can reasonably go. The opposition, so desperate not to leave Messi, Henry or Eto’o one-on-one against their hapless defender, will drag their midfielders back in a desperate attempt to “double-up”. The ball is retained easily by the outstandingly gifted midfielders Iniesta and Xavi, as the ball begins its intricate web between the midfield and back four. The whole team gradually manouvers across the half-way line. The full-backs have the time to wander up past their respective wingers to offer width, whilst the more skillfull attackers drop deeper to get possession.

It is no wonder that Barca regularly keep the ball for twice as long as the opposition, sometimes even against other top european and La Liga opposition.

The opposition, if they are fortunate enough to have players capable of tackling Iniesta, Xavi, or Messi without fouling them (which in La Liga, is precisely nil), sometimes see the ball again, but they’re own midfield, and often even their strikers, have been dragged so deep, they have no “out-ball”. They hoof it forward in desperation. And so the cycle continues.

From a neutrals point of view (which I invariably am), Barcelona suck the life out of every game. The opposition don’t “park the bus” because they want to, it’s because they have no choice. The game, in a possessional sense at least, decends into such a one-sided farce, that you begin to cheer the opposition getting out of their own half.

I dread to think what a trip to Camp Nou feels like for a Mallorca fan. John Barnes’ “90 minutes of shear hell”, has never seemed more apt. It must be gut-wrengching. Watching your team forced back into less than 20 square metres of pitch, in a perpetual attack-defence training excersize against three of the best 10 attackers in world football. And that’s before they’ve scored. Your beloved team then slowly deteriorates into a shadow of itself, even the hoofing becomes a struggle, as they are mercilessly torn apart.


What annoys me more than anything is the Barca players’ relentless whining that the opposition “go all defensive” to counter-act them. Barcelona’s entire strategy is based on forcing the opposing team so deep they can’t possibly pass the ball out of defence and resort to hoofing it forward, never allowing their players to push out. It’s Barca’s fault, not their opponents.

Furthermore, any team with a decent striker doesn’t have to attack Barca. They can simply sit in wait for the inevitable 3 or 4 one-on-ones that Barca’s ridiculous offside trap will gift them. Chelsea didn’t attack Barca. They didn’t have to. Had Drogba put his shooting boots on, or the ref remembered the rules, they could easily have converted 5 or 6 simple chances across their two legs.

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posted May 26, 2009

Either team can definaetly win. For me it is who plays best on the day and who has the least mistakes in the back four. They both play differently but are probably the two best teams in the world. I hope that Barcelona win just so people stop saying how amazing Man Utd are. They are amazing but there are some who are just as good and many who are very close. I think the passion and relaxed way Barcelona play is another reason i want them to win. They just look so comfortable, flowing and happy to be playing. When you see Man Utd its more like a job, I must win not necessarily for myself but so I don't upset anyone. Most look happy and the Reserves on Sunday definaetly looked happy but the first team stars except Rooney and Tevez im not so sure about. Im not a Man Utd fan but tell me if im wrong.

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posted May 26, 2009

It makes me laugh how everyone on here is tipping United to win.

I think a lot of people put the blinkers on when it comes to our teams, from our self proclaimed best league in the world.

Am I the only person who thinks Barcelona will win??

I watch Bareclona most weeks and I don't think United will have come up against a team that can pass the football so well.

United are a great team and I reckon they'll probably score but I think United will struggle against a team so at ease in possession.

Barcelona to win 3-1.

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posted May 26, 2009

I hate to say it, but, I can’t see anything other than a Man U win by a convincing 3-0 score line. Barca would no doubt win if games were won by playing beautiful football – but unfortunately they’re not.

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posted May 26, 2009

Interesting detailed perspective on their football there; they are so good at their brand of football that they can turn games into processions, whereas the end-to-end English game doesn't get anything like that.

Their whole game plan is around controlling the football and using their frighteningly fast attackers to exploit defensive errors. Chelsea, over 180 minutes, barely made any, which is why they were three minutes and one referee from the final.

Wish they had, too, because I'm having to miss the final, and I'd have been very happy to miss a United-Chelsea repeat. United-Barca, though, will be fascinating. I predict 2-1 to United in extra-time, in a mostly dull game punctuated by at least one sensational goal by which the whole thing will be falsely remembered.

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posted May 26, 2009

2-1 to United. Would the barca fanboys who dont know jack please look at their results this season. Villareal? NO. Numancia ffs!! Osasuna Mallorca! They are far from perfect. Guardiola is tactically inept

United FTW

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comment by JTF (U13746715)

posted May 26, 2009

Yes.

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posted May 26, 2009

perhaps if they had their first choice defence. i feel they would have to take most of their chances, unlike vs. chelsea. ultimately, utd's strength will prevail, especially rooney's physical presence against a make-shift defence

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posted May 26, 2009

http://www.statto.com/football/teams/barcelona/2008-2009/results


barca - lost 5 drawn 5

united - Lost 4 drawn 6

united have more points in the prem than barca can even get in la liga

I am sick to death of Barcelona. Attacking all the time is foolish, and will lose you big games.

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comment by Alex (U13798353)

posted May 26, 2009

if utd go in with 2 lines of four and let ronaldo and rooney run riot ahead of them, they will win the game. it would be a mistake to go with more than 2 of their four major attacking threats; ronaldo and rooney have got more than enough to cause barca major troubles on their own, so utd should win the ball off barca and hit them early through anderson and carrick in central midfield. it would, in my opinion, also be a mistake to play either of utd's best two players in wide areas - they're both better through the middle. barcelona's two best players at the moment are iniesta and xavi, man utd's are rooney and ronaldo - for all the spaniards' neatness and craft, the utd boys will prove the more damaging!

just out of interest, how do people expect utd to line up? i think ferguson will go with the following:

van der sar
o'shea ferdinand vidic evra
park carrick anderson giggs
ronaldo rooney

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posted May 26, 2009

I think a lot of people are very dillusional if they believe that United can match Barca for passing or individuals for that matter. Technically, and individually, no club in the world can match them. Absolutely no way.

United may have a better team spirit, graft or defence but that is the only way they will win the game. If they come out all guns blazing against Barca they will be ripped to shreds on the break.

You cannot argue that any United midfielder is a match for Iniesta and Xavi, let alone three. Carrick is not far off, Scholes was as good as them and Giggs (if he plays there) was as good too. But to mention Anderson in the same sentence as those two beggars believe.

I think some people need to realise that technically no club in England, or the world for that matter, will match Barca on the ground and we are kidding ourselves if we believe anything otherwise. Look at England V Spain, we haven't been able to get the ball off them in recent friendlies.

Don't get me wrong, United are a class team, with some incredibly gifted players, and they could well win. But I think most people are favouring United here and writting off Barcelona's chances. Do it at your own peril.

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posted May 26, 2009

If i was sir alex, then to beat barca i would simply play 4-2-1-2-1, with ronaldo alone up front, rooney and tevez on wings, with carrick giggs/scholes and anderson in the middle. Counter-attack them, score 3 for every one they bag. Barca dont have a team that can keep goals out. Its been proven over 47 (so far) games! They have had too many highscoredraws against lesser teams

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posted May 26, 2009

This Barcelona side reminds me of the so called invincible Arsenal 5 or 6 years ago but with a big difference which is Arsenal's back 5 were so much better and Barcelona don't have a Patrick Viera to protect the back 5 either.

Barcelona's fast attacking football is the reason for their success especially when teams stand toe to toe with them. Chelsea proved if you defend well Barcelona don't have a plan B and in that game Barcelona had one shot on target and Guardiola was doing his nut on the tochline because he didn't know what to do and for all the attacking flair Barcelona looked ordinary.

Barcelona defence is slow, their full backs can't tackle and struggle with the long ball over the top. Ronaldo and Rooney if they have seen any of La Liga this season will be looking forward to the game and the fact is Pique wasn't good enough for United.

To stop Barcelona you have to stop Xavi so I wouldn't be surprised to see United play 5 in midfield.

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posted May 26, 2009

anyone know how many Barca have conceeded this year? Or their goal difference? United don't have to play the Barca passing game, just the keep ball game they do well in Europe, Inesta and Xavi are great on the ball, how are they at getting it off an opposition player?

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posted May 26, 2009

van der sar
o'shea ferdinand vidic evra
park carrick anderson rooney
ronaldo Berbatov

Giggs and Tevez to come on with 10 or 15 minutes to go and relieve the pressure, Gigss to score even.winkeye

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comment by Joe G (U4314969)

posted May 26, 2009

comment by gilbertoAVFC (U9517755)
posted 7 Minutes Ago

I think a lot of people are very dillusional if they believe that United can match Barca for passing or individuals for that matter. Technically, and individually, no club in the world can match them. Absolutely no way.

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So what happned when barca played Chelsea? I'm not a Chelsea fan and don't begrudge Barca's victory but they scraped through in a two legged game they completely struggled to score in and arguably (emphasis on arguably, don't want start another debate) won partially because of shoddy reffing.

Barca are quality, and on their day can play outstanding football but this nonsense that they are some kind of indestructable force is just nonsense. Loads of teams can be amazing on their day. Arsenal can put in World class performances, Chelsea can demolish major teams and United haven't exactly been playing minnows in the knockout stages.

There's respecting an oppositions qualities and there's getting suckered in by media hype.

This isn't Barca against Accrinton Stanley, this is Barca versus United... either team could win and frankly I fancy a draw.

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posted May 26, 2009

Joe_Green, I'm not saying Barca are definately going to win, far from it. I'd probably favour United due to the injuries that Barcelona have. My point is that in terms of technically ability they are no match for anyone.

And yes you're right they did scrape through against Chelsea, but they were still better technically. I was just arguing with the United fans that were saying that United were as good on the ball, which they aren't. That doesn't mean they'll lose, it just means that they don't possess the same technical level as Barca.

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posted May 26, 2009

Chelsea lost because they sat back against 10 men & Drogba had 2 nights of not being able to hit water if he fell out of a boat.

United know Barca's defence is suspect, much like Arsenal's, and know full well how to exploit the weaknesses - Yaya Toure at CB? Please, Ronaldo will have a field day.

We beat them last year & we can beat them again this year, it'll be harder this time round though!

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posted May 26, 2009

Joe_Green (U4314969)
posted 2 Hours Ago

I get a bit sick of people suggesting so called 'beautiful football' is worth more than other forms. Beautiful football is such an intangible, debatable and somewhat pretentious term to throw around.

There is this idea that you can either be defensively solid and predictable or attacking and flair filled, risking all but apparantly not both. People often site England and Brazil as opposing schools of thought in this clash of styles but it's all nonsense and built entirely on false beliefs.

Brazil may be known for attacking flair but they have the second best defensive record in International football, behind Argentina. At the opposite end England are often painted as being defensive, boring and lacking the flair of teams like Brazil yet have a better scoring record than any other international team.

The same is true with Barca. People look at the number of goals they score and their attacking flair and hold them up as artists, a team that plays beautifully as if this is more important than the results on the pitch. Ask Real if they'd trade 7 of their European Cups, reducing them to the two Barca have in return for a more attacking reputation.

Either view that a certain style of play is 'worth more' than another is equally fatuous. Italy have won four World Cups with a style of football that some would call boring, I somehow doubt that Italian fans sit watching their national team racking up the titles at the same time thinking "oh no, what must other nations think looking at us win with solid defending, how embarrassing."

The winner of the CL league final will be the better team, the style of play they employ will merely be a detail.

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You are embarrasing yourself with this explanation, Brazil have such a record cause having the possesion is probably the best way of defending, while you are attacking the other team can't scored. I am not sure where do you get that scoring record of England, certainly not in modern times, however if you ask the question in any neutral country whether they think England is playing attacking football, generally, or not, i am afraid all them will tell you they are not known for that, maybe you will still think everybody is wrong and you right.

You have seriously not idea about spanish football for a start, Real has won 9 times the European Cup or CL, not 7 as you stated, in the 50,s-60,s they were famous for their attacking football style, and for the last 3, at least 2 of them they were won playing attacking football. Barca didn't play attacking football till Cruyff arrived, as a coach there, that is beginning of the 90,s, after this the model has been more or less followed, except some periods with Robson or Serra Ferrer, with relative success.

I don't think Barcelona has any given right to win just cause try to play more attacking football than Utd, however you could expect the neutrals to back the team intending to play football rather than other just parking the bus, i am not mentioning this as an hypotesis, but based on what happened in the semifinals last year.

And while you mention Italy as an example, while their style is legitimate as any other, and certainly competitive, i haven't come across of many people, other than italians, supporting them in the world cup/euros.


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posted May 26, 2009

Who really cares about this 'technically gifted' toss? I mean look at the semi final barca barely created anything clear cut. If they want to pass the ball around and go nowhere and pass short instead of getting a good ball into the box from corners then let them. The English clubs will lap it up. Chelsea should have won the 2nd leg easily and had far better chances to score than barca but settled for going defensive in the last 5 minutes instead of finding gaps in the weakened defence.
I predict a team as tight as United will secure victory Wednesday without too much trouble.

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posted May 26, 2009

I dont like Chelski and the behaviour of their players was a disgrace int he Semi Final, but face facts, the ref was poor. They deserved at least 2 pens, which you don't get unless you are attacking the oppositions goal. Barca were out thought at the Nou Camp and out played at Stanford Bridge.

I think the game will be close tomorrow, but Puyol against Ronaldo, I can only see one winner.

As for Eto, Henry etc vs Vidic and Ferdinand, it will be a much more even fight.

I can only see a 2-1 win for Utd. May well go to Extra time tho.

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posted May 26, 2009

You cannot argue that any United midfielder is a match for Iniesta and Xavi, let alone three. Carrick is not far off, Scholes was as good as them and Giggs (if he plays there) was as good too. But to mention Anderson in the same sentence as those two beggars believe.

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what anderson,whos a brazilian international?

1 His full name is Anderson Luis de Abreu Oliveira.

2 He signed for Brazilian Club Gremio in 1993. When he was just five years old.

3 Made his first team debut for Gremio when he was 18 years old.

4 He appeared at the FIFA U17 World Cup and won the Adidas Golden Ball for the most valuable player of the tournament. Previous winners include Cesc Fabregas of Arsenal.

5 During his time at Gremio, he helped them to win promotion to Brazil’s top division, scoring the crucial goal in a game against Nautico.

6 Anderson made only five first team appearances for Gremio before joining FC Porto.

7 he appeared in 15 games, nine of them from the start and grabbed two goals. But he would have played more frequently were it not for a broken leg suffered.

8 In eighteen months at FC Porto, he won two Portuguese titles including a domestic double in 2005/2006.

9 Brazil’s World Cup winning coach Mario Zagallo said of Anderson “everything suggests that he is going to be a superstar, a prodigy as he has undisputable quality.”

the boy is a superstar in the making.

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posted May 26, 2009

No doubt Barcelona can beat Man United, but whether they will on the night is a different matter. Barca can beat any team in the world comfortably with their style of football.

Chelsea didn't lose because we sat back against them, we lost because we didn't take our chances and a lot will depend tomorrow night on how United take theirs. But Barcelona are so good at keeping possession, even with 10 men, that if you don't sit back they are easily able to get in behind any defence. So there will no doubt be periods in the game when United are pinned back and I expect the possession stats to be not far off of what they were against us.

The reason Chelsea were defensive is because it was a two leg game and we had away goals to think about which of course eventually cost us - so I would expect United to be more attacking but still quite cautious. It better be a cracking game though, or we will have gone out for nothing.

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posted May 26, 2009

Fullwoodinho (U13785098) - I guess you must be English with a response like that doh, you philistine laugh

What makes me laugh is Man U fans talking about their own attacking threat, which in my opinion is pretty weak. Even we (Arsenal) scored almost as many goals as you this season and we were diabolically poor for most of it.

Man U's attacking threat consists of Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov and Ronaldo, the only one from that four who has remotely been decent in attack is Ronaldo. Even against Arsenal Rooney was doing more defending than attacking, in the league game at OT.

So Man U's attacking threat I feel is limited.

Barcelona on the other hand have in form Iniesta, Messi, Eto'o and Henry, ALL as good as Ronaldo and better in the case of Messi and Henry ok

Yes Barca have a dodgy defence but thats not goingto be much good if you haven't got the ball laugh

And don't compare the Barca game at Stamford Bridge to the game tomorrow, the pitch will be bigger and the support for Barca will be greater, I predict 90 mins of defending for you Mancs.

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posted May 26, 2009

@Gilberto..." Rubbish! You speak f defence as if it is not a part of the game. All great teams are about balance. Utd's is better than Barca's.

They play t their strengths..going forward, as theuir defence is suspect. They struggled to create a chance over games against the 2 best defences in Europe. Stick that technical ability in your pipe and smoke it.

Understand that excellence in defence is just as important and technical as any other skill, understand tactics and understand how boring it is to watch a team playing sideways across the pitch all night without any idea of how to open up the opposition.

Then you'll understand football a bit better and give an opinion worth listening to.



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comment by Pharce (U13100887)

posted May 26, 2009

Barcelona do play great football. Fact. However, a great team can, and should be able to play in many different ways. The aim of football is to win games and so to be able to play in whatever style is necessary at the time to win is essential. Barcelona do not have the capacity to play any other way except the so called 'beautiful way' in which they do. Whilst they are an exceptional team and do pass it about like Arsenal on speed, I do not feel they can win ugly and as a result cannot possibly be labelled the best team in the world.

Comparing players like for like is a pointless exercise. Every player in each squad has different strengths and different weaknesses. It is the sum total of all the parts which make the team and it is this extent which makes Man Utd better (in my opinion). We will see who comes out on top, but my money is with Utd.

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comment by chimus (U13977414)

posted May 26, 2009

In as much as Barca play their beautiful game, i do not believe they have the strenth to much ManU. xavi and ineasta have the skill, and potential to win games, but not this one because they will be isolated from their defence. Barca don,t have the players in defence who can attack and defend, mind you it,s ronaldo,ronney,teves and babertov if things comes to waist.

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posted May 26, 2009

WordsofWisdom

zzzzzzzZZZZZZZZ

Win or lose Barcelona are simply the greatest & best team on the planet.

After that, nobody really cares about any argument you mancs have to offer.

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comment by Biddey (U5284551)

posted May 26, 2009

I don't understand how everyone is suddenly a barcelona expert. You can bet your life most people on here have not watch most of their games this season. They play beautiful football but they have only played one good team this season and that was chelsea. People say chelsea parked the bus but barcelona didnt have a shot on goal in the secong leg bar the last min goal and chelsea had several chances. People say utd parked the bus last season. Two leg football is competely different to a one off game and utd made sure not to concede an away goal which unfortunately is the most important thing to do. This one off game is going to be completely different. I think all this year has shown is that barcalona have one way of playing which is good if it works but if it doesnt they have no answer. Lets watch them against a good team and see if they can prove themselves

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posted May 26, 2009

LTBFAUH

Mark my words, Anderson is not now nor will he ever be even close to Xavi and Iniesta's brilliance.

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posted May 26, 2009

comment by The Dogs Ballacks (U9018841)
posted Just Now

LTBFAUH

Mark my words, Anderson is not now nor will he ever be even close to Xavi and Iniesta's brilliance.
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He may not have the technical brilliance that they do, (but who does?!). However, he will be as effective for United in the role that he's assigned. He's extremely strong, quick, has really good passing ability and can tackle very well. He has already won as much/more than most players will ever in their lifetime with his team.

He will be brilliant.

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posted May 26, 2009

Win or lose Barcelona are simply the greatest & best team on the planet.

After that, nobody really cares about any argument you mancs have to offer.

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Maybe at the end of the game, we can ask Rafa to say who is the best and the trophy can be awarded accordingly. He is right about everything.

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posted May 26, 2009

WordsofWisdom

zzzzzzzZZZZZZZZ

Win or lose Barcelona are simply the greatest & best team on the planet.

After that, nobody really cares about any argument you mancs have to offer.

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Hmmm, If I didn't know any better, I would have thought you were a liverpool fan!

How good are they?...seeinga as Barca are the best "win or lose"doh

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