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posted Apr 15, 2009

it is extremely possible we could end up completely wrecking your season tho i hope not cus i want utd win league still.

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posted Apr 15, 2009

Berba was played as AM with very strict tactic limitations mate. What a coincidence that Porto overrun MU when he was off.

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posted Apr 15, 2009

I thought that the result tonight was superb, well done to one and all!




































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(Not the result you thought eh?)

ok

Aren't Leeds United great?

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posted Apr 15, 2009

Don't know what you were watching. Berba was very good in terms of hold up play, link up play and helping us with possession. He helped us a lot to use the possession wisely at times. He never has been a fox in the box/predator in the box. Considering we were playing away and took the lead, we were always going to play deep, hence why Ronaldo was the only one that was going to play really forward. I'd give Berba a 7 out of 10.

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posted Apr 15, 2009

Who are Leeds United? Do Leeds have a football team these days?

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posted Apr 15, 2009

Aren't Leeds United great?
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No, they were once great. In the early 70's.

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posted Apr 15, 2009

Its really strange some of the Berba-hating as ppl just ignore all the good work he does outside the box in terms of link up play and helping us with our possession, and just focus on his bad part which is his movement in the box. You just have to look at the stats for tonights game, in terms of how many km he covered, pass completion, etc, as well as watching the game to see how good he was tonight. He has never been a fox in the box, deal with it

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posted Apr 15, 2009

comment by 11_Giggsy_11 (U3530334)
posted Just Now
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and some people will blindly support/justify Berbatov

he was rubbish again and gave away possession more often than he kept it

Berba is keeping Rooney from playing his best position whilst doing very little to justify it, that's probably what's most frustrating

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posted Apr 15, 2009

United started playing badly when Scholesy came on for Anderson. O'Shea was terrific tonight, while Rio and Vidic were what you expect of them. Evra still looks a bit shaky though.

I thought our worst player overall was Giggs, with some sloppy touches at times. Carrick and Anderson were immense, and Rooney and Ronaldo gave their all.

Berbatov showed some amazing touches tonight, I just wish he put more effort in to get forward.

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posted Apr 15, 2009

What exactly did o'shea do wrong tonight. Very solid and didn't put a foot wrong. Getting ever closer to holding down the 1st team position there.

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posted Apr 15, 2009

White pele,

Berba is not keeping Rooney out of position. Ferguson is keeping him out. And for your info Berba was in midfield again for thi smatch due to tactics........like rooney.
They both played out of position today.

Answer me: Last season Rooney was more played on the right wing or this year? Because he is not right winger anyway.

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posted Apr 15, 2009

I think your getting giggs and carrick mixed up. Giggs was true class on the ball. Carrick gave it away every time he got it, and hid from the ball the rest of the game.

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posted Apr 15, 2009

the white pele (U8980165)

.......right(!)

Sounds like your the one that 'will blindly support/justify' anti-Berba rubbish

You clearly don't appreciate good hold up/link up play. Secondly, the stats say 80% pass completion from him tonight, which is pretty good, considering he had a lot of the ball doh He covered over 7km, so much for Berba being lazy(!) lol

I wish he wasn't here because it stops Roo from playing the second-striker role. But that won't stop me appreciating a good performance when i see it. He put in a good shift today, whether you like him as player or not. Take your anti-Berba glasses off for once

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posted Apr 15, 2009

I don't wear anti-Berba glasses, I just call a spade a spade

If you wanna go on about stats then take a look at our goals scored as a team over the previous 3 or 4 years.....and then look at our goals scored this year where Berba has been a mainstay in the team when fit....

I'm not a big fan of stats but just fight fire with fire when I have to devil

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posted Apr 15, 2009

I'm talkin about tonight, this article is about tonight. Your bleating on about the team in general this season and the attacking play, goals, etc. We're talking about tonight's performance. Tonight, he was good. Like you say, call a spade a spade.

Boring seeing you berba-haters seeing his individual performance tonight through 'i just don't like Berba, so i can't say he has put in a good performance' glasses

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posted Apr 15, 2009

But I don't think he was good tonight....what did he bring? What threat for 30 odd million did he provide? ok he made quite a few simple passes, did he make any decent passes, through balls etc? have any decent efforts at goal?

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posted Apr 15, 2009

He was in Midfield today...
If SAF ask him to play as central defender you will go on "attacking threat" again.

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posted Apr 15, 2009

erm the cross for Giggsy's chance

simple passes that are important too, the passes that keep possession going but i guess your one of those fans, who expect defence splitting passes non-stop for a player to be 'good' with possession. Typical

Of course he is overpriced, but that doesn't take away from a good performance. Silly lame low blow, the price comment. Its about tonight

anyway, i can't be bothered getting into a debate with a blatant Berba-hater as its so boring

agree to disagree

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posted Apr 15, 2009

Arsenal and Utd are the best footballing teams in the PL.

I have always praised Arsene Wenger, and could not understand all the negative comments from your fans about him.

He gets his teams playing football the right way.

No one knows how the Semi Final will turn out.

All I say is let the best team win whoever that maybe, sorry I am hoping it is Utd!!

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posted Apr 15, 2009

Man Utd: American-owned and in debt.
Chelsea: Russian oligarch-owned and in debt.

Secret of their success? Play in England for the Sky money but next to no English players.

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posted Apr 16, 2009

Played in midfield or not, I would still love to have someone like Berba in my team... we struggle to keep possession and although its not always the direct route to goal, he rarely loses the ball or wastes it. I think United would miss him if he weren't around, over-priced or not. They didnt pay all that money for a deadly 25+ goal a season striker, they payed it for a link up man. Did anyone moan about Cantona's goal average?

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comment by Mutt (U7617936)

posted Apr 16, 2009

What match were you lot watching?

We were awful last night.

A stunning goal separated the teams. Porto started to play well within the last 10 minutes. If they started that way, we would be joining the Scousers in watching from the sidelines.

O'Shea was terrible. Anderson & Carrick couldn't pass a fart at the moment. Berbatov showed certain skills but has no pace. Giggs still floats his crosses in which are easy to defend against, when he should be drilling them in.

The only honorable mention is the mighty Rooney. The bloke does not stop running and helped O'Shea out of trouble far too many times last night.

Personally, Rafael would've been a better choice for his pace.

It just shows you that we miss Wes Brown bombing down the right.

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comment by Mutt (U7617936)

posted Apr 16, 2009

braveMartin47

Secret of their success? Play in England for the Sky money but next to no English players.

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Scholes, Rooney, Rio, Wes Brown, Carrick, Hargreaves, Welbeck etc...yeah, I can see your point. Fool.

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comment by Adam (U10253300)

posted Apr 16, 2009

comment by the white pele (U8980165)
posted 10 Hours Ago

But I don't think he was good tonight....what did he bring? What threat for 30 odd million did he provide? ok he made quite a few simple passes, did he make any decent passes, through balls etc? have any decent efforts at goal?
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I'm not a huge fan of Berbatov but he did provide the cross that Giggs's shot came from, he also fed an intelligent ball out past their left back to Rooney.

He also came back to play deep several times to allow Ronaldo to stay up the pitch and give Porto something to worry about.

Berbatov was far from his best but he is only back in the squad a few games and is already getting back to best, give him time and he will make you proud

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comment by phil (U8303147)

posted Apr 16, 2009

Best performance since we lost to the scousers. We looked solid at the back with Rio/Vidic and Rafeal and Wesley almost back to fitness so hopefully Gary wont be asked to embarass himself again this season. Still giving the ball away far too much in midfield though, we will get punished for that against Chelski,Gooners or Barca. Dont think we will win the CL this year but we may just scrape the domestic treble, which aint a bad acheivement in a less than vintage season..

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comment by Jim (U13916970)

posted Apr 16, 2009

United were class last night and a lot of it was down to the calming influence of the best central defender in the world "rio".

Anderson was excellent seeing he hasnt had much playing time lately he hussled and passed as well as any other player on the pitch !

Rooney was fantastic a real credit to our game, the determination was second to none !

I thought the substitutions were a little suspect and could of costs us, im sorry but the likes of oshea and nani are not good enough for united !

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comment by Jim (U13916970)

posted Apr 16, 2009

I understand why berbatov may not be everyones favourite player but he is effective and has scored vital goals this season.

Last night he held the ball and kept it simple as easy as that may seem its the secret to european football, its paramout that you keep the ball !

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posted Apr 16, 2009

Personally, I think thats the best weve played for a while.

It proves how much Ferdinand gives to the team. He has a great partnership with Vidic and it was great to see them back together again.

Also, I think Berbatov had a great game. No 40-yard screamer from him but he kept things simple, held up possession well and looked pretty reliable.

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posted Apr 16, 2009

I don't know if I am the first Arsenal fan to comment of this article so far, but I must I watched the highlights, and seeing Ronaldo's goal did make me happy. All I can say is that I hope we can display a great game between us great sides, and may the best team of the night proceed.

winkeye COME ON ARSENAL!

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comment by Dismas (U8038581)

posted Apr 16, 2009

Happy in the first half... nervous as hell the second.

The 3 man midfield was overrun a little too much which put pressure on us.

Anderson played well in the middle (didn't lose the ball there) but couldn't thread a final ball through that often(this is were he lost the ball) Carrick didn't have the best game, nor did Giggs, Ronaldo (a wonder goal does not make a preformance) or Berbatov who all gave the ball away too much. Evra was doing that as well which was unlike him. I was not convinced that Ferdinand and Vidic were looking comfortable and O'Shea... Help.

Glad about the result though. Phew

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posted Apr 16, 2009

comment by Mutt182 (U7617936)
posted 2 Hours Ago

What match were you lot watching?

We were awful last night.
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What match were you watching? We were watching man utd - Porto, which is clearly not the match you were watching.

We were definately not awful, we may not have been anywhere near our best, but it was a good performance none the less.

We controlled the game, created some good chances and while porto got in a lot of shots they didn't get many good chances,and most of their shots were speculative to say the least.

As For Berbatov, I'm also not a fan, but he did have a fairly good game, and he did the job he was there for well.

The thing I don't like about him is that he doesn't keep the attack moving forwards, he plays the ball of sideways or backwards and then drifts forward. I think that he will continue to adapt, and hopefully next season he'll be playing the ball forwardds more often or at least getting forward quicker after he does play the ball sideways.

Please note I am not a Berba-"Hater", I just think he still needs to adjust his play slightly to fit with the fast attacking football traditional under Fergie.

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comment by Mutt (U7617936)

posted Apr 16, 2009

We were awful. Plain and simple. Don't get me wrong, we played better than our previous 2 matches, but we're still nowhere near the class before we played Liverpool.

Premiership Champions, European Champions & World Champions that could hardly put a pass together. We needed crucial midfielders last night...and with Anderson only having a sucess pass rate of 66% is c**p.

I feared for the worst when Rooney was hobbling around.

If he was out of the game, we'd be out of Europe. And maybe our season would be over.

His work rate and tracking back is immense.

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posted Apr 16, 2009

anderson had better than a 66% pass rate. you sound like one of them guys who sits in the pub every game slatting the likes of fletch park etc. and knows everything about football.
yes rooney was good but so were ronaldo rio vida and john o'shea. berb's not 100% fit but the guy is class he will come good over the next couple of games

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posted Apr 16, 2009

United put in a gutsy performance and it was nice seeing them get through, making three PL teams in the last four. What a semi against Arsenal ! Re the goal -sheer class. Although I guess Fergie would have told everyone to test the keeper early on - 6th minute, from nearly 40 yards! lol.

Re the match, it wasnt a classic United performance but gutsy. Evra and Neville looked a bit dodgy to me and O'Shea shouldnt really be in the United squad. Berbatov has been one your best players this season and have taken a nose-dive recently. I thought he played well against Porto. He just needs to be a bit more "urgent" and perhaps run a bit more.

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comment by Bilal (U6438955)

posted Apr 16, 2009

LFC: Neville didnt play, it was O'Shea <Doh>

Come on United!

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comment by Mutt (U7617936)

posted Apr 16, 2009

"welcome dimitar

anderson had better than a 66% pass rate. you sound like one of them guys who sits in the pub every game slatting the likes of fletch park etc. and knows everything about football.
yes rooney was good but so were ronaldo rio vida and john o'shea. berb's not 100% fit but the guy is class he will come good over the next couple of games"

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Just going off the stats on TV when he was subbed.

And to be honest, I never slate Park or Fletcher. Flectcher is on of our best midfielders. Always hustles players off the ball, tracks back & has a great shot on him. Park too runs his **** off & scores great goals. I'd have him in place of Nani any day of the week.

Ronaldo was ok last night. A few tricks didn't exactly come off for him and admittedly was a tad stoppy after being fouled and not getting the decision. But all in all, had a good game. Excellent goal.

Rio & Vidic nearly back to their best. Just need to get used to each other again.

Still not overly keen on O'Shea. Which is why Rooney was back there most of the game helping out. I'd prefer Wes Brown or Rafael in the Rightback slot.

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posted Apr 16, 2009

What a strike. But just a quick one for all you we were awful last night people. NONSENSE. While this may not have been the performance of the season we put a very good performance.

We shut down a Porto at a ground where they HAVE NEVER LOST to an English and made it look relatively easy.

Anderson had a great game, and provided the energy that we lacked in previous fixtures in that area. We were absolutely rock solid and were touch tight to them every time they picked up the ball in dangerous areas, so they couldn't turn an d run at us like they did last week. Hence, they were reduced to playing long balls. A classic professional performance in a highly intimidating era, and all the players will feel an extra bit of confidence from it.

As for all this hating about Berba and O'shea. Well Berba had a decent game, and did what was asked of him. He made it difficult for their defence, and held the ball up well for us so we could retain possession and look to pick holes in their defence, the key to European football.

As for O'shea, they rarely got any change down that side. Yes Rooney did admirably in tracking Sissoko, but that also was his job, as last week he ran riot down that side for Porto, and O'shea was helpless. O'shea persistance and versatility is a credit to the club, and his performance last night can't really be faulted, he even got forward when he could and put in some vital tackles. Fergie is no mug and he certainly wouldn't keep a player for over 7 years who was talentless, in a side that has one countless trophies.

Anyway bring on L'Arse

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posted Apr 16, 2009

had enough of O'Shea another poor display we need the enthusiastic Rafael back

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posted Apr 16, 2009

"We tried to change and spread the team around the field and hope Manchester would make some mistakes...We feel very bad. You can understand our emotions. We feel that wasn't a very just result. They scored one goal and it was scored by the best player in the world."
- Jose Gomes

Now, this is why people don't respect leagues like Portugal's. Porto - arguably the best team in the league - clearly reveals that its strategy was to hope for MU to make a mistake, allowing them to score. Then, when it doesn't happen, they say how upset they are and complain that MU's goal was struck by the best player in the world. Well, Ronoldo has to play for SOMEONE, and it's not an "injust" result as Gomes says just because Man U played better and didn't hand the game to Porto.

If they would have attacked the game instead of hoping on a wing and a prayer to get a goal and if they didn't try to blame the loss on the best player in the world playing for the other team, they wouldn't seem so pathetic. As it is, however, they seem like a crying child as too often happens when another league's team is beaten by an English side.

Porto needs to get over its self pity, blame itself for the loss as it is their own fault, strive to correct what it did wrong, and maybe then it'll be good enough to go through to the semi's.

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posted Apr 16, 2009




All is not what it seems...




READ IT AND WEEP...

Borrowings

However, it is the level of debt that will be of concern to some United fans.

Red Football Joint Venture made INTEREST PAYMENTS of 68.8m on total loans of 692m in 2007-08.

The senior debt of 511.6m is SECURED AGAINST THE CLUB and its assets.

When the Glazers borrowed in 2005 to take over the club, some 152m was loaned originally by hedge funds at a " 14.25% " interest rate. These "payment in kind" loans ARE NOW WORTH 175.5m and are secured against the Glazer family equity.

"On a group basis, the debt to the hedge funds is SOAKING UP the profits from the club playing side," said Mr Philp.

"The intention would have been to try and renegotiate those loans, but the current financial circumstances have made that difficult. (EH...MORE LIKE IMPOSSIBLE)

"That debt is a ticking TIME BOMB that they have to pay off."


laugh


tic, tic, tic........



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posted Apr 16, 2009

Jimmy-the-lips (U9785251)

Mate get on with your life, yeah we might be in debt, but we aint gunna go under. Manchester United is too big a franchise to go under. Anyone would jump on the wagon and help us pay off debts if need be, Beck's could pay it off himself tbh :L

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posted Apr 16, 2009

Ronaldo should partner Rooney up front. Any squad player can huff and puff up and down the touch line as a winger. Stand Ronaldo on the 18 and tell him to shoot every time he touches the ball. Tevez and Macheda as the 2nd set of strikers. Sell Berbatov, e biggest waste of money since Veron

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posted Apr 18, 2009

yeo jimmy talkin bout the the match here not how much utd r in debt ur commenting on the wroung page u jackass

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