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NUSC - Whats all that about then?

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comment by NWMags (U8554850)

posted Feb 20, 2009

Support the team on the pich yes BUT it's vital to keep the pressure on Ashley and Llambias. This event will be reported in the press and maintain the pressure for change.

NUSC I applaud you

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posted Feb 20, 2009

its to get mike ashley's attention that the fans are unhappy with certain things at the club.

mainly its some people who cant get over the fact that keegan jumped ship AGAIN and are blaming the owners.

but will mike take notice probably not.

these people thou want to prove a point to ashley so they a staging a "march" to the game,

but it will be a distraction for the players.

and to be fair pointless, if fans want to let ashley know they are unhappy dont go to games,dont buy the strips,socks,curtains, any newcastle utd stuff. ETC.


how many people will go to this march and then spend money while they are there on food,mags,drink ETC

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comment by Matt (U8281088)

posted Feb 20, 2009

Next they'll bring out a moustache sporting Mackem, convincing us all we Geordies are a superior race(which, to be fair, is something I've suspected for sometime now) and that we must dominate Europe and eventually the World!

Were do I sign up?

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posted Feb 20, 2009

The thing is, we're never out of the bloody papers - neither is Ashley. This clubs need to settle down a bit and concentrate on results. The timing of this is toatally naff. Llambias has just been in the paper all last week answering 'selected' fans questions. The window is closed, Ashleys not selling - NOTHING is going to happen between now and the end of the season. So lets just get on with supporting the team!

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posted Feb 20, 2009

The organisation was set up because Keegan bottled it again, ENOUGH SAID!

They are Keegan United, not Newcstle United!

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posted Feb 20, 2009

NUSC seem to think they have some right to speak on behalf of all fans. Who gave them that right? I have been a season ticket holder for 20 years, why do they have more right than me to decide what fans want. These people were set up after the Keegan incident and now are intent on being part of the future of the club. Why football is so great its because everybody has different opinions on how the club should be run, what players to buy, who should be sold, who should be manager, was it offside or not? etc etc. No group has the correct answers and no group can speak for the fans because our beliefs and hopes are all different. March or protest or whatever it is is not going to help anyone except a few high ranking NUSC egos and increase their level of self importance.

Ill do my own march to the ground on Sunday and every game all the way to my seat to support my team through thick and thin

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posted Feb 20, 2009

I've no doubt this rally has been arranged with the best intentions

But the timing of it is all wrong (it can't be anything but a distraction) and there has to be some doubt as to what it will actually achieve?

magic

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posted Feb 20, 2009

Instead of us all speculating, have a look for yourselves what it's all about: http://www.newcastle-united-supporters-club.co.uk/events.php

Sounds pretty harmless fun to me...

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posted Feb 20, 2009

Lets see how harmless it is when sky sports have interviewed a few anti-cockney/pro-keegan chavs above monument metro.

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posted Feb 20, 2009

Agree with the comment above

Having read the link, it seems harmless enough, but there's still the risk idiots will end up hijacking it and getting their faces (and more inflammatory views) on TV

Still see no real benefit to this rally (as to why it had to happen this weekend) and only potential distractions or problems

magic

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comment by FredDB (U13637279)

posted Feb 21, 2009

I agree.

It is always better to do nothing.

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posted Feb 21, 2009

Don't we all want to know what they do with the money?

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posted Feb 22, 2009

Idiot. So Sir Bobby was wrong to say KK had to go after players were brought in against his wishes?

Whose opinion should we trust - a Newcastle legend or a website WUM?

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posted Feb 26, 2009

monster

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posted Feb 26, 2009

"Support the team on the pich yes BUT it's vital to keep the pressure on Ashley and Llambias."

Not a NUFC fan but I just dont egt it. There is not a market for Newcastle to be bought at the moment, save for a big oligarch, so why dont NUFC fans just support their club. With all due respect, Mike Ashley annoys me with the "i am a real spporter and sit in the crowd with my newcastle shirt on despite kinda supporting spurs" but to be honest, he has ploughed vast sums into the club and in my opinion doesnt deserve the amount of flak he gets.

having said all that, I love NUFC looking like monkeys cos it takes the heat away from the Newcastle tribute club of the South, my comical club - Spurs


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posted Feb 26, 2009

I totally agree with akaGeordieJuice. What gives these people the so called right to talk on the fans behalf??

I'd say 90% of my friends support Newcastle United and to be honest, nearly all of them think the only thing Mike Ashley has done wrong was to bring Keegan back in the first place. It was a no win situation and he didn't realise how much he was going to lose.

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posted Feb 26, 2009

Seriously, who the hell is going to want to buy NUFC, after Mike Ashley poured millions into the the club, and you treat him like dirt!!

I seriously, don't think he deserves the stick he is getting.

NUFC fans better be careful, otherwise no1 will invest and you will see yourself like Leeds

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posted Feb 26, 2009

Is it inbuilt in some Newcastle fans? Or do you learn it at school? I have no idea where this need to 'rally' rubbish must come from.

90% of football fans hate their club's owners. Greedy/tight/don't get football etc etc, same old story virtually everywhere. I bet the quiet majority of Newcastle fans appreciate they could do a lot worse than Mike Ashley (Thaksin Shinawatra anyone?) and wish these embarrassing loons with their daft banners would just go away.

Only problem with Newcastle... the squad. Despite Llambias' comments its weak, unbalanced and frankly requires a clear out and a Moyesesque manager to rebuild with players signed on an upward career curve (Lescott, Cahill) than those past their best (Nolan, Owen). Its not rocket science...

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posted Feb 26, 2009

it's interesting someone who never won nowt as manager of the barcodes is described as a 'messiah'... sums up the problems and false expectations that newcastle have

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posted Feb 26, 2009

Let's be totally honest here, keegan's going was just one of many things happening which show that with ashly and lambias at st james park, nothing really good is ever going to happen.

they just don't come across as especially clever, respected or committed, they seem to lurch from one idea to the next, they'll mess it up no matter what happens.

long-term for these two is next week. they only appear capable of running shops and saying anything to make themselves look good to journalists.

pair of complete wasters if you ask me. newcastle united supporters had better be ready for the championship, because that's where the club is heading.

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posted Feb 26, 2009

Only problem with Newcastle... the squad. Despite Llambias' comments its weak, unbalanced and frankly requires a clear out and a Moyesesque manager to rebuild with players signed on an upward career curve (Lescott, Cahill) than those past their best (Nolan, Owen). Its not rocket science...

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It's so simple.. all Newcastle have to do is go to Everton and take David Moyes, Tim Cahill and Lescott - simply convincing them that the premier league table is irrelevant and they should leave a top 6 club for one battling relegation.

Newcastle are nowhere near the attraction they used to be because their old tactic of offering massive wages is being copied by every other club in the league

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comment by Kapnag (U11006724)

posted Feb 26, 2009

Give him a break, he tried his best to sell up. What more do you want from him?

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posted Feb 26, 2009

Right lets get some things straight here. Hardly any Newcastle fans want Ashley out. Look at how many people demonstrated on Sunday before the Everton game. 2000? Out of 52,000, not exactly a majority is it. I'm Newcastle through and through and like many supporters are aware of what state we would be in if Ashley hadn't bought the club, we were in huge huge debt with the previous owners and given the current economic crisis it's highly possible we could have gone bust. The only thing that I and many supporters want is some communication of what's going on. It now looks like this may be starting to happen but patience is the key here.Don't take the supporters that you see paraded on sky sports every day as a true reflection of what's going on. Most fans have accepted that Ashley is the owner but we just want some stability at the club. I'm happy to be patient and slowly build the club back up again over the next three or four seasons with a gradual improvement. Once we have done that success will come.

However, i'm 100% certain that having Ameobi in the team will only slow down that progress, he needs to go and soon.

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comment by BRAND-0 (U5767525)

posted Feb 26, 2009

Excuse me if this seems a bit off, but the reason the NUSC was set up was rubbish. Keegan left because he wanted to control all footballing matters at the club, and the idiots ith blinkers on agree. Imagine you've bought a Rolls Royce Phantom, and have a chauffeur who thinks he should have the right to choose where he goes, how he drives and from which forecourt he'll pump in the fuel! This is the same princple as Rafa wanting control at Liverpool, but to get that level of control, you need to be successful consistently - Like Sir Alex!

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comment by GeoMax (U2100830)

posted Feb 26, 2009

"Imagine you've bought a Rolls Royce Phantom, and have a chauffeur who thinks he should have the right to choose where he goes, how he drives and from which forecourt he'll pump in the fuel!"

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That's spot on if you reverse the roles! Keegan's car, but all he is alowed to do is drive, he has no say in how to drive or where it goes and not alowed to fix it when broken.

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comment by NWMags (U8554850)

posted Feb 26, 2009

What more do we want from them ?

Communication, a decent manager, some honesty rather than all of the flannel, some investment in the team (he's made a profit so far).......

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posted Feb 26, 2009

"Imagine you've bought a Rolls Royce Phantom, and have a chauffeur who thinks he should have the right to choose where he goes, how he drives and from which forecourt he'll pump in the fuel!"

It's not a rolls royce, it's a seven year old corsa off ebay.

the main gasket is blowing (owen) and the suspension (the defence)is knackered.

the chauffeur is then told to drive this car at hundred miles an hour, blindfold, guided by a man who has never driven a car or been down this road before.

lesson over.

Imagine if that chauffeur took all the flak if the car ended up in the canal due to the midget in the back seat seat saying "drive on chauffeur, never mind the "danger canal" sign".

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posted Feb 26, 2009

and the suspension (the defence)is knackered.

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Newcastles defence hasn't lokked so good in a long time. Bassong is arguably our player of the season. Enrique has really shone the last few games, Collocinni seems to play better when those around him are in form and Steven Taylor is a pretty solid defender too. What we ned is strength in depth in these areas, nothing will make you play as well as you can than having someone fighting for your place, all top teams have this, we don't, yet.

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posted Feb 26, 2009

Lets be straight about one thing, the majority of Newcastle fans, including myself, are not supporters of the NUSC. They dont speak for us, and we do want them to go away. They actually charge for membership, which to be frank, is a total joke.

On to Ashley, I'm in the minority here, I like him, and I hope he stays. Hes made a few mistakes, but that makes him human. Keegan was one of those mistakes, I didnt want him back, and I'm glad hes gone.

The main thing that most people ignore, is that NUFC would probably have gone into administration under Shepherd, so if nothing else, Ashleys kept the club afloat.

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posted Feb 26, 2009

Paranoid Newcastle fan's: Ashley is worth about 1000 million, one thousand million, he's a nice guy I'm sure, he likes sport and people, that's why he bought Newcastle, he is also a very astute businessman. He's the kind of guy who'll go out and spend 50 million maybe a little more. He's determined as his record shows, the alternative is profit hungry consortiums who'll spend nowt and hope for a profit because there is much money to be made from building a successful premiership club just ask the owner of Leicester. Geordie fan's are paranoid and think they own the club, you have a passion but then why don't you organise yourselves and buy the club ? Ashley has made the offer. You love your club but all this cockney mafia and spurs phobias are very immature and paranoid. Dennis Wise is one of the most sought after guys in the game, he could go on to manage England one day ? Newcastle fan's don't understand how lucky they are or paranoid, help your club don't destroy it yikes

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comment by NWMags (U8554850)

posted Feb 26, 2009

"Dennis Wise is one of the mist sought after guys in the game"
doh

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posted Feb 26, 2009

For you sickos who check peoples past posts, yes I am a spurs fan. But like yourselves and West Ham we've had our fair share of dingos running our football club, but if you stay up and get a proper manager (Kinnear has steadied the ship but he's done, you can't have the gaffers ticker going at half time) possibly you can get going. Levy made mistakes when he took over with the continental approach but he admitted he was wrong, sacked Comolli and got in a proper manager in who makes all the decisions. Now only time will tell if he was right to do that but maybe Ashley will do the same, get rid of Wise and the rest and sort you lot out. It probably won't happen cos u lot don't do smart things, but u can live in hope. We've got a trophy to retain.

COYS

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posted Feb 26, 2009

This has been Newcastle's problem for many years now, they have dwelled far too much over the past and the decisions they have made. It's time they looked forward to the future.

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posted Feb 26, 2009

Are the the owner/management real? Llambias tells us now we have a great squad, is he at a different club and a bit confused? Ashley has LOANED the club 10 million, what hapened to the profits from the transfer windows since he arrived ? lost in a casino down South? Going to build like Aston Villa or Arsenal make your mind up, spend money or not spend money. A disgrace from the top down.

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posted Feb 26, 2009

You are naive if you think that this subterfuge is going to get the fans of NUFC off your back over how you've managed our club since the Oil Money you wanted , and the big pay day didn't happen. You've insulted our intelligence. We've had enough rubbish from geezers like you. You cannot be trusted. You do not have our interests at heart. Please leave!!!

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comment by Andy (U3200718)

posted Feb 26, 2009

So to sum up Guys, look at the people you are deaing with and fight politics with politics.
If fans realise they are supporting a PLC each week, that is, paying into a company hard earned cash, then they ought to expect loyalty and a certain value for money from those who run the show. Nothing is gained from lying down and rolling over.Your cash keeps them where they are which is miles apart in terms of financial income for most of us

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posted Feb 26, 2009

newcastle United are imploding a slow disintegration that began with the ruthless sacking of Bobby Robson and the restlessness and turmoil since then. Regardless of who's right or wrong the fans in open protest against the owners is hardly a great advertisement for any future buyer. Sooner or later if Newcastle continue along this path they'll get on a truly bad run of results and slip into the championship. It could even happen this season. I mean what is the point of their campaign this season. For years it's been about underachieving or striving for Europe, now it's staying up to be run by an owner who is unwanted, a manager on a short term contract (no disrespect to Kinnear, he's done a good job under the circumstances), with key players either having left or ot of contract at thte end of the season and a squad of players who have flattered to deceive or done sweet FA since they came to the club. If Newcastle go into next season in the same shape, assuming they stay up, how is anything going to change and who in this current financial climate is going to buy that club and what decent player would want to attach himself to this sham

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posted Feb 26, 2009

Our biggest problem is our fans. They cause the biggest embarrassment. I can't believe the pressure they put on the team and the board. You ever thought about blaming yourself's for the sacking of all these managers? Seriously, we have no continuity because the fans believe we should be up at the top! No we don't deserve to be up. You deserve to be up there on merit. Look at Aston Villa and Everton, both teams are fantastically run, there fans are very patient.
You can't keep throwing a manager out every 8 months. Sir Bobby took two seasons to get us into the top four. He came in when Gullit had left us in a mess after 7 games, and guided us to 11th. The following season we finished 11th once more! You can't get instant success.
Mike Ashley as put alot of money into us and we have no debt! And were not wasting millions on players like Luque or Boumsong, were being run professionally.
He's building the academy, adding fantastic young talent to the ranks, and slowly adding players to the squad that dont just come for a payday!
For gods sake, I worry because our fans will drive Ashley out and we'll end up with someone worse!
Just be careful what you wish for!

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posted Feb 26, 2009

The so called NUSC are intent on pressing the the self (Newcastle United) destruct button.Now they want another march/demo. It may have escaped their notice but we are in a relegation battle and more distractions is the last thing we need. I suspect most of them are members of the Messiah Keegan Brigade. It's time they faced facts. Not all of us wanted Keegan back. He is a serial quitter and for him to suggest he did not know his terms of reference when he returned, is beyond comprehension. Let it go. I also wonder if these NUSC members were also supporters of the get Freddie Shepherd out canpaign.Ashley may have made mistakes but I think he's got the message,and is trying to find a way forward. Thats more than I can say for the self styled NUSC who are intent on civil war.

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posted Feb 27, 2009

Kevin was skint, I mean bankrupt before he joined the club. His soccer circus sucked him dry, his call from Ashley was manna from heaven when it came. Now he's finished in English football according to some, he's simply got to get as much as possible for the rest of his natch. Wouldn't we all? He can't allow himself to think that he's robbing ' the club ', or even the fans of transfer funds. He's suing a billionaire who should in no way subtract the final settlement from the transfer fund for summer. The ultimate Ashley blunder of undermining KK's position is ' his ' responsibility, not the paying fans or even KK. With a bit of commonsense, he could have apologised to Kevin when it was obvious that his ' well known ' strong principles had been undermined. What price a bit of humility by changing Wise's job to scouting for and bringing Keegans' choice of players to United? Kevin showed humility by ' fronting ' for Ashley in the Milner sale and especially in the announcement of the Wise job. But you can only push a principled man so far. The writing was on the wall historically from the Hall/Shephard fiasco when Kevin left on the crest of a club wave after beating Spurs 7-0. Surely Ash would have chatted to him about that, and discovered that KK had no choice but to stand by HIS principles and leave, I know that I would if I were giving him a multimillion pound contract. There seems to be a split camp on the ' Keegan shouldn't have come back issue ', but where he took us last time and the fare he was dishing up for us and the football world, was a case of unfinished business for the pro-KK side. It took a few months for him to undo the ' Big Sam ' pro-zone mentality in the players' heads, but we really did begin to see the old Keegan magic return to St. James's, I was on cloud nine. I re-bought my season ticket purely on the Keegan factor, only to find out Milner had been sold, precisely at the moment I'd just handed my 550 over the counter. I knew then there was trouble afoot, and the garbage I've witnessed this season was not what it said in the brochure. I love the man and his methods of entertaining us and I'm deeply as saddened, as much as when the other regime shafted him with broken promises. I doubt that we'll ever get a manager with Kevin's love for the club and ability to entertain us. I and thousands like me didn't give a monkey's that we finished second twice and got regular European football on our doorstep without silverware. I always walked out of the park with a smile on my face, something the southerners and the Man, U's/Liverpools will never understand as they lust for silverware like vampires for blood. I hope KK gets his full whack and enjoys every penny of it in the sun with Jean, even gets a job on the continent and does great. NO, I hope Ashley gets an offer he can't refuse and the new guy brings KK home to finish off that bit of business that was cruelly stopped after stuffing Spurs 7-0.

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comment by GeoMax (U2100830)

posted Feb 27, 2009

Well said heed!

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posted Feb 27, 2009

By the way, gatesheed (U13348958), the score was Toon 7.1 Spurs. Get your facts right mate. The thing is, Keegan, regardless of what people think, could of brought back the feel good factor surrounding NUFC . Let's face it, the place has been pretty sad since Shepherd ( and the Halls - as majority share holders they must also carry some of the blame) sent our club crashing out of the top half of the premiership due to unbelievable errors of judgement. ( and they all walked away with tens of millions of pounds which, at least in part, could of been spent on rejuvenating the team, academy ect. Shame on them all ) What I'm saying is, Keegan could have got the club moving in the right direction again. We, the fans, would have given him the time to put it right because as we all know, the principles that Keegan would have adopted would of provided the fans with decent football geared towards attacking the opposition and trying to win games. Ashley however, blew it the moment he gave D Wise a job at the club. Nobody can expect somebody of Keegan's stature to take orders off the likes of Dennis Wise.

Blah blah blah. What ever. In time Keegan could have at least put us in a position where we could go out and get some decent players again, and when he chose to move on, we could compete with other clubs of our size for a decent manager. But who in their right mind would work for this regime? David Moyes perhaps? Steve Bruce? Look at the job he's doing at Wigan (with their huge fan base and massive 52.000 seater stadium). The solution to our problems will never be realised under this regime, until Ashley admits his mistakes and begins to act with integrity. Or sells up. Too many lies. Too many insults. Not enough quality in the team. Sounds like Shepherd all over again.

Ps. I'm an NUSC member, but with me, getting Ashley out isn't the be all and end all. If he does what he's meant to do, given the resources that this club can generate, and gets us back in the mix, where this club should be, then alls forgiven. Then again, hell might freeze over. UP THE MAGS

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posted Mar 1, 2009

Sell the Club!

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posted Mar 1, 2009

Ashley is lending the club money! and wasting millions on the likes of Xisco, paying loan fees for injured players(injured before we took them)I can't even remember his name thats how often I've seen him, signing players on who have had so many clubs in one season we can't get rid of them. Very professional, I do agree we should be careful what we wish for, look what we wound with!

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posted Mar 2, 2009

So why doesn't Llambias back up his words with actions?? If you loved King Kev so much, you wouldn't overrule him like you did. Ashley is running this football club like he runs Sports Direct. The manager should always be in charge of transfers. Im sad to see that King Kev has lost support. Who is the only team to pick up anything from Old Trafford this season? We are. Who was in charge? Keegan. Even if he wasn't the right man in the long run, forcing him out ultimately wrecked our season because of the unrest. Ashley get out of here!!

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