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Butt signs 1 year deal

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Should have been allowed to leave in the summer...cant cut it anymore..legs have gone he is a liability in the centre of midfield

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posted Feb 3, 2009

This is generally good news.

Butt is an enigma, absolutel brilliant and absolutely shocking all in the same game and sometimes game to game.

Personally Iím more of a fan of his than a detracter, however the bad thing about this new deal is that if JFK stays Butt will be played over one of Barton/Nolan/Guthrie.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Hopefully on reduced wages.

Whilst he's not the player he used to be, he's a good person to have in the changing rooms. I can imagine him and Nolan really pumping the lads up at half-time.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Its good news, as with the amount of injuries we have and are likely to have next season, butt is one of those players who rarely gets injured and can be a decent squad player on his day.
If all players are fit though he is no more than a backup player.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Most likely Guthrie. My first choice midfield would be

Jonas ( left) Barton Nolan R.Taylor ( right)

or in a 5 man midfield the same except for Butt in a holding role. With Viduka/Ameobi upfront on their own. Only if Owen and Martins are out at the same time.



Personally. My best XI would be


Harper

Beye Bassong Coloccini Enrique

R taylor Barton Nolan Jonas

Owen
Martins Viduka




I wish!

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Isn't that your best 12?

doh

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Oh yeah sorry! My maths is a little off this morning!

Well take one of Barton and Nolan out. Not sure which. It would be hard to please a fully fit squad because we DO actually have QUALITY players but never mind because our squad is never fully fit anyway!

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posted Feb 3, 2009

he is defo worth keeping as back up as he seems to play best when he has just come back from injury or suspension i think the rest does him good he's to old to be playing every week.

his replacement must be the priority in the summer as the defence needs better protection

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Isn't that your best 12?

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It's our only chance of winning matches! Just hope the ref doesn't notice. ok

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Wonder if the club are going to unveil Vuckic at all?

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Depends what his wages are. Probably reduced. In fairness without Butt we're absolutely hopeless. Have we won a single game without Butt in the side this season? I'm pretty sure we haven't. His positioning is quite good and he does get in the way, and generally his tackling is good too. Sure he gives away free kicks but mostly because he reads dangerous situations and has to. The other players can learn from him. I think our best midfield is one of three Nolan/Barton/Butt/Guthrie.

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comment by luka (U10766156)

posted Feb 3, 2009

bit disapointed but no overly happy he is ok like

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Travelsick - He didn't play v one of Villa or WBA.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

I'd go as far as to say we played all our best football this season without him in the team in that short spell with Barton and Guthrie in the middle.

To be honest I disagree that Butts a good influence around the dressing room. He has experience of big occasions yes, but he's always the first to lose his head and throw the towel in when the going gets tough during games. Its not like you ever see him talking or encouraging during games either. The difference in attitude and responsibility between him and Nolan is like chalk and cheese, who was already bawling at the defence on sunday.

When a squad really struggles over a prolonged period like ours has you have to take a long hard look at the senior players.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

As previously mentioned, depends what his wages are.

Good backup for Guthrie who I feel will become our frst choice DM player once hes back fit.

If Owen, Viduka, Geremi etc go in the Summer I guess its good to keep some experience too.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Why doesn't he just shave his head?

He has such little hair, but what he has got looks dreadful.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Oh God no! This is the worst news since we gave Ameobi a new contract. It's past noon... I'm drinking to drown the sorrows of this awful news.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

"Why doesn't he just shave his head?

He has such little hair, but what he has got looks dreadful."

Would you have told Bobby Charlton to 'just shave his head'? Butt is probably trying to channel a little of the great man into his play. In fairness it doesn't seem to be working, but NUFC need all the help they can get at the moment.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

good player the problem is his fitness can let us down at times

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comment by WT10 (U8172099)

posted Feb 3, 2009

although i may be bias (my username)

Nicky Butt is a very unnapreciated footballer, some of you say his fitness lets you down. he played the most minutes on the football pitch last season in the entire league, i think he was first, top 5 at least. he stil has legs and gives everything. ive watched newcastle recently and none of there midifeld track back unless the crowd is roaring them on. Butt anchors with a lazy and attack minded midifeld and his passing ability is also underated. but yeah maybe not at his best these days. if you had a on form team who win game (not newcastle) butt would fit in perfectly

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Whilst Butt's fitness level is of some concern, I agree the more pressing matter is what's on his head.

Since Coloccini's got so much, why not cut some off and give Butt a 'Colo wig'?

Either that or send him to Carroll's barber and give him some dreds.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

As a Man Utd fan I saw Butt play numerous times - the rule at OT was that if his midfield partner played well (i.e. Scholes), Butt would play well, if they didn't, well Butt would be lousy. He can't influence a team, only contributes to its general performance, good or bad. If Nolan rediscovers his old form, Newcastle could have a good set-up. If he plays like he has for the past 18 months... you've got a Championship midfield all ready for next season!

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Personally I like Butt - he's got a bit of dig about him, every team needs that.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Glad Butt has signed 1 year deal, but agree with most that if...... and its a big if? we ever get all our midfield fit he will be purely used as a back up player. His legs have gone these days. However he does battle for 90 mins unlike some. Hopefully we will be Premier League next season, but we have a battle on and it will go down to the wire.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Butt should be one of the first out of the club, he is a liability, he no longer has the legs for 90 minutes, gives away the ball constantly and has been resposible for at least 4 penalties this season, he is practically the 12th man for the oposition, I'm disapointed.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

No! No! No! Why?

Butt peaked 7 years ago when he played for England in the World Cup. He is now AWFUL.

- He dithers on the ball
- When he has it he hoofs it forward making it lucky if one our player gets it
- He commits too many fouls
- Every shot he has goes over the bar

Someone should do a video montage. The number of times his shots go over is comical.

All of our midfielders are all defensive battlers. Where's our new Dyer or Beardsley?
Where's our midfielders with creativity? That can run with the ball / pick a pass that cuts a defense open?

We should have sold Butt and Barton in the summer.

And what's all this about Jonas on the left? He's right footed! Get him on the right running to the byline, get Duff on the left running to the byline. That is what Newcastle are all about. The best attacking tactic as:

- Players can head on goal
- If headed out the opposing denfense is far enough back so that our midfielders can compose themselves and shoot
- Worst case you get a corner
- Jonas and Duff have enough skills to cut in and play low crosses for close range shots

Anyone see Liverpools brakthrough goal at weekend? A dangerous byline cross you'll note.

We don't need any defenders. Our defenders are class but just have nerves and no confidence because we are clueless going forward, so they know if they concede there is a good chance we'll lose the game.

This may shock people but I would play Duff on left and Jonas on right, and get them to the byline crossing. I would have gone for Peter Crouch in the transfer window and I'd take a risk and play Lua Lua in midfield with Nolan / Guthrie sweeping up behind.

If we stay up this season it will be by the skin of our teeth.

BTW, Enrique was awesome at weekend. Shame on those who slate him. No wonder great players come here and don't perform. The fans intimidate them and don't make them feel confortable on the pitch.

End.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

good or NOT, just think of the damage he could have caused with that 'back pass' to chopra on sunday, too old and no skill

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Toonkev 1979 - All of our midfielders are all defensive battlers. Where's our new Dyer or Beardsley?

Those 2 names should not be mentioned in the same sentence, the new Dyer??? What injured constantly, always out on the drink, 80000 a week.
Dyer was one of the most overrated players we've had, great potential when he came but never fulfilled it.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

He's rubbish! Whoever made that comment in the story page needs their head checked. Why oh why are we signing him up for yet ANOTHER year?? Beggers belief. He can't even pass for goodnes sake!

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Hmm... mixed news this. In a current Newcastle 'dream' (in the loosest possible sense) team, you would want an experienced mid with a really good player. This is my XI:

Harper (RIP Given)

S Taylor Collocini Bassong

Gutierrez Nolan Guthrie Duff

Owen
Viduka Martins

Justification:
Obviously, now Given's gone, Harper is are best player.
We have 3 good centre backs, although Collocini especially is a little erratic
We have 2 awesome wingers in Guttierrez/Jonas and Duff, with Nolan as mid enforcer and Guthrie connecting up with...
Owen, playing behind the strikers like he did so successfully earlier in the season, with Viduka (for power) and Martins (for skill) in front of him.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

It seems to me that Nicky Butt has been found out a bit since he left United. It's a struggle to find a Newcastle fan who really thinks he's been a quality player for them - which he should easily have been on the basis of the reputation he had (or which Pele, still to my disbelief, gave to him!).

I wasn't terribly sorry to see him leave us when he did, as he was always a completely unspectacular footballer, and Phil Neville - a full-back by nature - had even managed to surpass Butt as a 'midfield battler'.

Of course the thing is that even mediocre players can look pretty decent in a team as good as we had in the late '90s.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Fairly good news

There's no point letting anyone go needlessly while we still have so many injuries

Sure, his best years are behind him, but he could still be a good back up

wizard

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posted Feb 3, 2009

Oh, just admitted you were only looking for an excuse to drink.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

As someone mentioned, you need a couple of players with experience. Their contribution is not limited to the field, but extends to dressing rooms and training sessions.

This signing will be tested next season especially, as he grows even older and Newcastle looks for a new beginning.

Of course, if relegated, it doesn't matter much.

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posted Feb 3, 2009

@ToonBowman

You're right. Dyer was nowhere near as good as Beardsley. I meant that 'type' of player.

When Dyer was at his best under BR he was very good - often man of the match and made the difference turning potential 1-1 draws into 3-1 wins.

What's this Lua Lua like? Unexperienced i know, but he'll only get that if we play him! I've seen him now and again and he looks like he's willing to have a go at taking on players. A bit like the superb Jonas does - willing to try things and make things happen.

At the moment most opposition can read us like a book!

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