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SIGN Appiah!

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posted Jan 5, 2009

his wage demands are quite high i think they are around 70k.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

I'm an athiest though, I hope this fact doesn't spoil anything for usok

Should I pray? Like quickly or something?

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Not another Zokora....please no.

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comment by Spurcat (U6670962)

posted Jan 5, 2009

Instead of qouting his details from wikipedia or wherever, maybe you'd care to spend a few minutes explaining why you think a player who has been out of the game for so long would be a good acquisition for Spurs. What do you think he can bring to our team ? What are his strengths ?

Otherwise your article becomes rather pointless and a little over-hysterical.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

i've said many times, surely there is a reason he hasn't been signed for anyone else in the time he's been available free. a risky venture i feel!!!

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Here winkeye Wanna see a picture of him?






























smiley Happy


































biggrin Appiah

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posted Jan 5, 2009

I've been saying on here for some time that we should get him, so .... good news.
However, there are downsides ... he's had some very bad injuries. So fingers crossed that he ain't another "Woodgate" as regards reliability.
Also, I think he's a freebee, so ...
But we should be out looking for another midfielder too.

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comment by MPH258 (U10569773)

posted Jan 5, 2009

comment by Johnny Two Saints (U11252041) ok good one!


there must be a reason why he's been without a club since august

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comment by Spurcat (U6670962)

posted Jan 5, 2009

So we now have 2 people saying we should get this player - the author of this article and tedditchburn1. Will either of you please justify to me and others exactly 'why' we shouldsign this player - what can he offer us ?

You seem to know, so please share it with the rest of us.................

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posted Jan 5, 2009

I think the reason he hasn't gone to another club earlier is the legal dispute that he has been having in Turkey.

From what I have seen of him he is like Zokora but with a greater attacking threat and a load more class.

Could be a typical Redknapp signing.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Spurcat ... read carefully what I said.

"However, there are downsides ... he's had some very bad injuries. So fingers crossed that he ain't another "Woodgate" as regards reliability.
Also, I think he's a freebee, so ...
But we should be out looking for another midfielder too."

Now, what do you know about him?
Nothing? . .. then read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Appiah

He's here. He dont cost anything. We need a midfield pronto. And ... and ... and ...
WE SHOULD BE OUT LOOKING FOR ANOTHER QUALITY MIDFIELDER, if only ... yes if only ...
Marcos Senna (sorry that's just a dream ... somebody like that!)

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posted Jan 5, 2009

"However, there are downsides ... he's had some very bad injuries. So fingers crossed that he ain't another "Woodgate" as regards reliability.



Woogate's missed what, 4 games since we signed him???

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Funny situation this, we have this absolutely "fantastic" world class player that would cure all our ills.

Obviously to be able to cure our problems he must be spectacular.

He is that good that he does not have a club and has not played for months and is unfit.

Forgive me if I am less than convinced that a player who was good 3 years ago and has spent forever out injured is all of a sudden going to transform us (or anybody else for that matter) and our manager and scouting system have totally overlooked this marvelous player who would cost us nothing.

I doubt it somehow dont you ?

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Ted...have you seen this guy play...who for...and when. i think that's all spurcat is asking....he's not casting aspersions. What can you tell us if you recommend him so highly....(BTW, I think this Woodgate frailty business is a little OTT....I think he has missed fewer games than anyone else inthe squad since he joined us..am I right?)

cheers

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comment by Spurcat (U6670962)

posted Jan 5, 2009

tedditchburn -

As is your habit, you miss the point. What part of my post did you not understand ? I asked that we avoid wikipedia details but was asking for positives on the player from people who actuall had seen him play.

You committed the traditional 606 habit of raving about signing a player you relied on wikipedia or YouTube for basing an opinion.

Ever seen him play to give a considered opinion ? I thought not.

So he's 'free' is he ??

Wow, nust be good. doh

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Never heard of him, frankly don't want to hear much of him anymore. Not judging him as a player but I think we have more pressing problems than centre midfield right now.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Spurcat

I think you're ignoring the importance of wiki in this at your peril. Did you know until you read that entry that he designed his own clothes line? Now a piece of string from which to hang clothes on pegs may not be Nobel prize stuff but it shown versatility, ingenuity and that he likes dry clothes - all excellent traits for a combative midfielder you must agree. ok

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Don't know how good this guy is myself but according to SSN he's having training sessions at Tottenham.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Evening Spurcat

If your looking for a scouts eye view mate I doubt you'll get it. Myself, I've seen him a few times a couple of years ago in the odd CL game for Juve and an odd WC game for Ghana. I can only recall that he stood out in the Midfield area of these games as a Davids type . Not the detailed description we'd all like but that gives a rough idea, don't know why I've gone Dutch either!
Anyway, I just remember him getting stuck in with tackles, breaking up play, starting counter attacks as a result and not getting sent off doing it.

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comment by Syn_13 (U12384171)

posted Jan 5, 2009

I watched him play regularly for Juve and regarded him as a good player. He was in the Juventus team when they were at the top of the Italian league and he held a good dominant position in the centre of the field. Although, he did have Nedved, Camoranesi and Del Piero to work with and backed up by Thuram and Cannavaro. Regardless, he held his place in the team for a couple of seasons and was a good player (nothing special) for Juve. This was a few years ago and he's been injury prone since.

I think that he should be worth a shot purely on the merits that he is free and we have the money to accomodate his wages.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Stephen Appiah was a very, very good central midfielder when at Juve, though he was quite attack minded back then, not the DM people are proclaiming. Maybe he's adjusted his game, but, whatever, he is a powerful, quick and tough tackling midfielder who, from what I saw, did the basics very,very well. Just what we need in MF.

Now I don't know what's happened to him since, but with all those capabilities and aged just 26, what's the gamble? We're not signing him until he's proved his fitness anyway. I'd say, if we sign him, he'll be less of a gamble than the £MMM's spent on Bentley, KPB, Bent,Taraabt etc etc.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Has anyone read hios wikipedia profile!

sheer brilliance smiley

according to wiki he started playing at the age of 55 laugh

The answer is obvious. We sign him on a 6 month contract, if he is good then we give him longer and we have a good player for free! If he is bad then we havent lost any money and we let him go! Its about time this club did some shrewd purchasing!

I must admit, i have never seen him, but what do we have to lose?

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posted Jan 5, 2009

All I know of the guy is that he has a great engine, can tackle, pass and is very talented in the defensive midfield role. Also capable of rampaging forward. The guys a huge talent but has just been very unfortunate with injuries. If we could sign him on a pay as you play deal he could be an excellent acquisition at a relatively low risk. Even if his wages were high, theres no outlay in terms of transfer fee and if it doesn't work out offload him at the end of the season. If the right deal can be done I'd see him as an excellent option. Although I would prefer to see him as a bonus signing, rather than in place of signing someone else.

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comment by Spurcat (U6670962)

posted Jan 5, 2009

Johnny 2 saints, smartspur and Syn_13

Thanks fellas for your intelligent responses to what I thought was a reasonable question to ask people who are raving about him. Good to hear a view on the player from guys that have actually seen something of Appiah.

Thanks again ok

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Well guys, lemme see if I can word this another way ... so's you don't continue to get the wrong idea.

First thing ... I'm one of those that think Spurs poor performances are due to a weak midfield.
If you don't agree with that ... STOP READING.

Second thing ... Appiah is a very accomplished World Cup standard midfielder, arguably better than any we've got ...

third thing ... he's had injuries and other problems that may negate his usefulness.

fourth thing ... he's free, and ... and ... he's here now ... training.

Final thing ... GO OUT LOOKING FOR ANOTHER MIDFIELDER. That is ... dont depend upon Appiah to solve Spurs current problems . He might, ... and he might not.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

the reason he hasn't been playing is cus of knee injuries and the turks not letting him. I have seen this guy play a fair bit over the years and have always been impressed with him, he does have great vision and can definetely pass the ball. The only real comparison people can make between him and zokora though is that they're both african and great athletes. i hope that using him as a dm is not waht they have in mind.

As for signing him, not so sure. If harry is sure he can get back to his best, then yes without a doubt, but he has had two major layoffs with a knee injury and how close to his old form is our mighty captain, if we're honest?? on the plus side he is only 26, seems to have been around for ages.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

WillSpur_in_the_wind (U11901094)

28 i think dude! smiley

I dont see why not, if he is on s free we have nothing to lose! At least from what other people have said, hes proven in the top leagues. We have taken bigger gambles as people have mentioned.

If i were harry, i would see how his training goes then snap him up (which is obviously what he is doing). He cant be bad if we have taken him on a trial.

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comment by Syn_13 (U12384171)

posted Jan 5, 2009

You're welcome Spurcat.

Obviously without seeing him play these past couple of years I have no idea how he is but I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Simply put, if he impresses during training and appears to be fit enough then Harry will certainly settle a contract deal with him. If nothing comes of it then we'll know that he's not good/fit enough.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

small correction ... he's not 55 and he's not 26 ... according to Wiki ... which seems to be up-to-the-minute on this entry .. .Appiah has just turned 28 (BD dec 24th 1980)

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Spurcat

Glad I could help laugh The blokes more injury prone than Ledley. Would we buy him now? If he's training with us and comes thru it he may sign but it'll be the shortest of stopgaps ever. Never seen him play but thats my opinion.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Well Ted, it seems like others have come in and supplied the info we're looking for...but in the meantime you seem to have got upset....i think Spurcat's question was quite reasonable, and nothing to get upset about. If it's true he's training with us...i guess at least someone will get to see him up close!! And i repeat, Woodie has hardly missed a game. ok

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Greavesie ... no I'm not at all upset. biggrin
If I got upset on 606 ... well... I'd be on the wrong board wouldn't I?
Spurcat's question was reasonable.
But I thought some of his question was prompted by misreading so I tried to make it "misreading proof".
Not upset at all!!

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posted Jan 5, 2009

If we are paying him on a match by match basiis then it makes great sense to sign him & I think it could give us a much needed edge in the middle of the park...............Goforit!!!

COYS

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Stephen Appiah will be a massive coup for the club. He is without a doubt the best amongst the Ghanaian midfielders over the likes of Sulley Muntari who is now a regular at Inter Milan from and Chelsea's Michael Essien.

He has a solid workrate with an abundance of skill. I am certain he will be a crowd pleaser...come on Harry.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Seems pretty obvious only a handful here have seen the guy live for 90 minutes at club level, just glimpses here and there, and mostly at international level, and are just assuming he will be a great signing, as he is available on a free, captain of ghana, and looks quite strong.

I do find it quite odd, why people get obsessed over footballers they have never seen play, can someone explain what is triggered in your brain to cause this obsession?

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comment by MPH258 (U10569773)

posted Jan 5, 2009

comment by reto's a must (U1768244) - cheers for info

think there'd be no harm in giving him a short term (ie 6 month) and see how he goes.

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comment by Spurcat (U6670962)

posted Jan 5, 2009

Exactly Barry. That was the whole point behind my posts on this article.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

i dont think this is a particular gamble for spurs part, its not as if there is a 15mil price we have just paid. Also considering spurs arent in desprate need to enhance that area with zokora playing the best since he joined and hudd also looking good. If appiah does end up fit and playing like he did for juve and ghana a few years ago then we could have a very handy player in the squad. Besides he's hardly past it at 28.....if that is his real age

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Evening all.I have been banging on about Appiah for a while.

He would be a very welcome if (and it is a big if) he has recovered properly from the knee injury that he had last year.

If he has I would love to see us sign this fella ok

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comment by Syn_13 (U12384171)

posted Jan 5, 2009

"I do find it quite odd, why people get obsessed over footballers they have never seen play, can someone explain what is triggered in your brain to cause this obsession?"
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Barry - I think people feel compelled to act as armchair managers. There's always those that have an opinion on every single player they've heard of regardless of whether they've actually seen them play or not. It's a bit absurd as I've always thought that unless you know enough of a player to know exactly how he plays and what he's likely to do with the ball when he gets it, you can't really comment on whether he will fit into the team or be a good signing.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

comment by harryjol (U13769773)
posted 1 Hour Ago

Stephen Appiah will be a massive coup for the club. He is without a doubt the best amongst the Ghanaian midfielders over the likes of Sulley Muntari who is now a regular at Inter Milan from and Chelsea's Michael Essien.

He has a solid workrate with an abundance of skill. I am certain he will be a crowd pleaser...come on Harry.
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posted Jan 5, 2009

Syn_13 (U12384171)

I think that opinion can be proved by the attitude of posters on here last year when we signed Gilberto.

Every other post was about how great he was with youtube links to prove it.

I knew nothing about him when he signed and I wish I still knew nothing about him laugh

Unfortunately it has got to the stage where you have to glance at a posters previous comments and articles to make up your mind whether they are complete idiots of not.

There are still SOME good posters on here but I have to say the majority are just not worth reading.

Sorry I know thats harsh but its true.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Syn_13 & spurcat ok

The only positive thing I have taken from our interest in appiah, is that clearly harry is looking to sign central midfielders to fix our soft centre, and while I have known about appiah and seen him live at international level, I have never seen him at club level, and have no idea if he is actually any good in terms of being a team player, or how consistent the guy is, so I am not in a position to form a real opinion of him.

The way some of these fans act, you would think they had followed Appiah all his career, when the reality is they probably can't even remember the last time they saw him live!

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posted Jan 5, 2009

when the reality is they probably can't even remember the last time they saw him live!
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No the reality is that even if they had seen him live they would have no idea as to whether or not he would fit into any form of team pattern or suit the other players that we already have.

Sorry but its true.

I think you can tell that by the fact that Ghaly has all of a sudden been recreated into some super competitive midfield player who could make a right difference in games and would be a bonus at the moment.

Sorry but I never rated him before he upset everybody.

1000 misplaced passes, 2000 times caught in possesion is obviously offset by one decent goal against the chavs doh

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Hi Ted...glad that's cleared up!

As for Appiah, there seem to be four camps developing:_

1) I've seen quite a lot of him at club and international level....Zokora/davids style, but better quality

2) I have not seen him, so probably he's pants

3) I've not seen him, so I think he's brill

4) I havn't seen him, but it upsets me that others rave about him without seeing him either.

Let's have another camp:-

5) If he's training with us, let's let 'Arry decide if he's any good, and the physios if he's fit.

BTW, I don't want Defoe back either. cheers

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comment by Spurcat (U6670962)

posted Jan 5, 2009

Grand,

What an excellent post. I know it was to BBB, but I doubt he'll disagree with you. I am fed up with reading that Hossam Ghaly has to have another chance because he 'lost teeth but played on', scored 'a great goal' at Chelsea, 'apologised' so 'has' to be given another chance. I even saw where someone called him a great player - oh dear.

THe reality is, he's out of his depth in both attitude and ability.

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comment by Syn_13 (U12384171)

posted Jan 5, 2009

Grand & Barry - Interestingly enough I just looked at a youtube clip of Appiah and it's easy to see how people get these misinformed views. This clip showed him when at Fenerbahce and the goals that he scored when attacking from the midfield, many of them long rangers. Now from what I used to see of him at Juventus he certainly does like to push up to support but I rarely recall him scoring, perhaps once or twice. He generally played the role that Sissoko plays there now where he'll come deep to help the defense and put in tackles, and feed it forward to the attacking players where he'll then take up residence outside the box on attacks to pick up on back passes and loose balls. Regardless, it's easy to see how a video clip of someone can rule people's judgements.

The thing that concerns me now though is whether he'd fit into the team. Of course he's going to be out of practice and lacking match fitness but even if he were fit where would we play him and with who?

He's not quite as defensive as Zokora is played and not as attack-minded as Jenas. Also, let's not forget that he'd be playing alongside Modric most likely, and will that help Modric concentrate on attacking and providing the forwards.

On top of that, if we do sign him don't we become a little midfield heavy in the centre? Someone may have to make way.

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Spurcat and Grand...are you sure you're both reading this right? It's truesome have posted some support for Ghaly...the man...after the appalling booing of the other evening. But I think the idea of resurrecting him as a serious answer to our probs on the field is an extremely isolated opinion. Of course some are just having a laugh, and rightly so. cheers

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Syn_13 (U12384171)

Dont get me wrong I hope Appiah is the best thing to ever happen to THFC but somehow I dont think he will be.

A great goal now and again does not make a great player.

Firstly if he has been out for that long how long will it take to even get him fit to play ?

Its somewhat typical of this board and if you want my opinion I have heard that Taarabt is the next Zidane and should be played immediately. Oh sorry have you already heard that laugh

I think that proves exactly what these boards are about dont you ?

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posted Jan 5, 2009

Before we all get too excited about him, let's remember this, since the end of last season, he's trained with Arsenal, West Ham AND Portsmouth prior to Harry coming and none of them signed him. Doesn't this tell you something? It's not as we're the only ones that have noticed he's a free agent, IF he's as good as the above posts, then sign him but somehow i have the feeling he's not the player he was and also wonder how long it would take to get him match fit seeing he's not played for a while

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