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Well done Lewis Hamilton !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Yes, well done Hamilton, especially after what happened last year. Loads of respect to Massa for not only being a great driver but also showing great integrity. Have to say that although Alonso is also a great driver he behaves like a spoilt child. He has zero integrity.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

GJ, this is unrelated

The Bahrain contest is up on the Sports Gaming area of the site, I was told thats where they needed to go.

- PM me on TSF or Snookered on how to be able to edit it if you wish.

Theres an e-mail set up for us to e-mail things to ourselves regarding the contest.

Details will be released when you PM me, If I dont hear anything I'll do Bahrain and UK alone

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Certainly his actions in the last lap, in the rain, prove he is above the rest as far as 'sportsman', if not one of the best drivers, ja? I refer of course, to Timo GLOCK, who, 600 feet ahead of LEW HAM, at the last corner pulled over under radio orders from his team and gave Hamilton the WDC.

Hamilton who had no chance of winning WDC, who was squirrely in the wet, was totally out-classed by the Austrian, who on dry tires, consistently pulled ahead of him out of the reach of Lew.

Another sad day for the sport.

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comment by netto (U10451827)

posted Nov 3, 2008

Anybody elase think it was fixed?

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posted Nov 3, 2008

GTV - John - Try reading what Glock said, and also look at Trulli's last lap time. Radio conversations are also recorded, and I somehow don't think what you say would have gone unmissed.

Lewis winning this years title certainly sets up next year nicely and without doubt there are some great drivers at the front. With Alonso, Kubica, Raikkonen and possibly Vettel (add whoever you like) in quick cars, plus the possibility of some more overtaking, we might have a few more great seasons to remember, just so long as we don't have the contentious decisions.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

i think Timo Glock let him through, he was put under orders by his team to let Hamilton get 5th place, this sort of thing has been going on in Formula One for years.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Hi all,

What a race - and what a climax, huh?

Anyway, as for the suggestions that the end of the race was fixed, I have to say I think you've got that wildly wrong. There are a lot of dodgy things going on in F1, and some questionable decisions by the powers that be, but this was not one of them.

Just think about it for a second.

Firstly, what does Glock have to gain by giving Hamilton the title? It makes no difference to him.

Secondly, how do you think Toyota would react to having a driver who was prepared to hand over positions to a rival when there was no benefit to them? It's the sort of thing that can lose a driver a job - as happened to Jarno Trulli, Glock's current team-mate at Renault in 2004 after he lost third place in the French Grand Prix to Rubens Barrichello at the penultimate corner.

Thirdly, why in any case would Glock feel well-disposed towards Hamilton? Don't forget that only four races ago Hamilton, in passing Glock at Monza, edged him onto the grass in the rain at 150mph.

We should be revelling in a thrilling climax to the season, and lauding a new world champion who - mark my words - is embarking on a career that will establish him out as one of the greatest racing drivers of all time. Hamilton may have his faults, but if you don't believe me about how good he is, read what Damon Hill and John Watson think: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7688403.stm

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posted Nov 3, 2008

GTV john you are clueless. Next you will be saying that the Senna Prost crash in 1990 was an accident! Glock had dry tyres on a wet track, and if he had pitted for wets would have been behind Lewis anyway. I guess you are also going to say the rain was brought in by the FIA to make sure of a last corner last lap finish! laughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaugh

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posted Nov 3, 2008

"Anyway, as for the suggestions that the end of the race was fixed, I have to say I think you've got that wildly wrong. There are a lot of dodgy things going on in F1, and some questionable decisions by the powers that be, but this was not one of them."

Thanks for adding that Andrew, it's what nearly all of us are saying, but the few who cannot accept the outcome will probably still persist in using whatever theories are left to them.

What an amazing year altogether.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Sir "Slicks-und-Wings", All radio transmission are under total control of FIA race control as to which ist released or not; they are also so time delayed ...and that is one radio transmission that never made it out of race control.

...our seasoned F1 driver Hobbs, former team mechanic, and 30 year veteran annoucers on SPEEDTV all blurted out in the heat of the heart pounding moment: "GLOCK PULLED OVER AND LET HIM BY!"

If you were watching (but perhaps not seeing?), if you were watching, Glock pulled out of line slowed to tuck behind another car off-line out of the HAM's way ...obviously not wanting to get rear ended by reckless HAM...and just like that, "presto!" ~ he is WDC. ..long live the King in your mind.
...enjoy and embrace the fakeness of the WDC.

HiHo.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

I am a huge Ferarri fan so to say I am dissapointed is a huge understatement. My team had the better car and better drivers but due to reliability and some stupid decisions we handed the championship to Hamilton...who after all that happened ended on top position on points and so deserves to have won the championship.
In a way I am glad that hamilton won this one as that way all the Hamilton fans can stop the conspiracy theories that FIA were out to get Maclaren and Hamilton (absolute rubbish really).
Also Timo Glcok did not press break, it wouldn't be in his or his teams best interest, and frankly Ferrari and Maclaren wouldn't have wanted him to do it...both teams are capable of winning without help from understudies.
So congratulations and celebrations Hamilton, I hope you continue to drive as strongly as you have so far. But I also hope next year Ferrari learn from their mistakes and win emphatically so that i can stop listening everyone discuss hamilton.

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comment by Steve (U2381975)

posted Nov 3, 2008

Well done Lewis, but really, can you PLEASE not leave it so late next year? I couldn't repeat the names I was calling him on the last lap.

McLaren have had a massive crisis of confidence this year which culminated in driving a ridiculously conservative race on Sunday. Maybe they are missing experience there. Hopefully, with a WDC under his belt, Lewis will relax and grow in confidence.

As for last lap deals… Don't you think Ferrari would have been all over that like a bad suit? That last lap was absolute chaos. Things were changing so quickly. What was Kubica thinking about when he unlapped himself on the last few corners?! Idiot. I believe Lewis was the right man to win the WDC, but it really was in the lap of the God's yesterday and had nothing to do with driving a well paced, confident race.

As a big Hamilton fan and a huge Ferrari critic, I would have to admit that there was almost nothing to choose in the end.

Alonso, despite being a spoiled idiot who really needs a good manager/PR rep, has finished the season driving absolutely brilliantly.

Vetel has proved his is an extraordinary talent again and probably one of Hamilton's main worries for the future.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Best Massa did not win this year as all the british fans would have said he was not a worthy champion. No point winning a tainted championship.

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comment by nibs (U13128545)

posted Nov 3, 2008

Well done Hamilton & Massa for making so exciting to watch F1 again. Ferrari were not good enough at the end and the points don't lie. Better luck next year and I already can't wait till next year.

I was absolutely certain that the Stewards were going to find something to punish LH & that explains his very cautious driving, which was most unusual

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posted Nov 3, 2008

I find the sore losers arguing almost enjoyable as Hamilton winning! What a great weekend that was eh guys? laugh

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Well done Lewis Hamilton.Roll on next season.

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comment by ma0ech (U13670692)

posted Nov 3, 2008

Oh come on boys, get over it! There's no way Glock let him through!! It's not like he didn't have enough to concentrate on trying to drive on a wet track with dry tires on, do you really think he knew that Hamilton was in 6th and needed to get passed? All the radio conversations are open broadcast so none of the team could have told him what to do!

If that's not enough proof for you, take a look at the final lap times. Glock was the fastest of all the drivers on dry tires and some of the others times literally fell off a cliff when the track got wet!

Pretty sad when people have to try and take away a great first championship victory from a young lad with all this pointless conjecture. Let's not forget, Massa was gifted a couple of extra points by Kimi in the last race!

Well done Lewis, and Massa! One magnanimous in victory, the other magnificent in defeat!

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comment by sugoiii (U9082285)

posted Nov 3, 2008

Lucky lucky lucky boy...
You should invite Glock for dinner!!!

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posted Nov 3, 2008

What a nailbiter and congratulations to Hamilton for getting the job done.

All this nonsense about Glock is sour grapes. Can you honestly say Massa deserved to win the title after being handed a race win and his teammate pulling over to give him added points.

Kovalenin has not really supported Hamilton hence them not winning the constructors title.

Next year will be tough, Alonso, Kubica, Massa, Raikonnen will all be competitve.

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comment by vbanzy (U13670695)

posted Nov 3, 2008

I wonder how much Mercedes will pay to his compatriot Glock for the scandalous open way he did. Money can do everything, specially pounds.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Big Congrats to Lewis.

I dont expect any complaints from Massa - A hard fought victory through the season.

Is this the re surgence of the F1 following one of the first years for ages that there are potentially 6 drivers who could win it next year.
Instead of one driver being head & shoulders above the rest

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comment by nibs (U13128545)

posted Nov 3, 2008

For the 2nd year in a row he choked when it came to the boil. I honestly didn't expect him to choke again but unbelievably he did choke. What a choker.

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comment by Funky (U1669534)

posted Nov 3, 2008

comment by sugoiii (U9082285)
posted 10 Minutes Ago

Lucky lucky lucky boy...
You should invite Glock for dinner!!!

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It would make a nice change from Ferrari having dinner with the Stewards and Max Mosley smiley PS i bet you also ignored Brundles question to Ecclestone about how he was managed to keep world championships so close and with a glint of his eye he said lots of hard work hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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posted Nov 3, 2008

"For the 2nd year in a row he choked when it came to the boil. I honestly didn't expect him to choke again but unbelievably he did choke. What a choker."

Why are you talking about Massa like that?

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posted Nov 3, 2008

All this talk of Glock is sour grapes. If it had not have rained Hamilton would have cruised to 4th. Glocks time for the last lap was on a par with another car also on dry tyres.

Would anyone really have wanted Massa to have won basically due to being gifted extra points after the bordaix incident?

Just like to say also, I think Massa is a top man after the way he conducted himself. I hope he one day becomes champion. Ferrari does not deserve such a sportsman in it's team.

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comment by nibs (U13128545)

posted Nov 3, 2008

BBC: "McLaren's Lewis Hamilton officially became the worst world champion in Formula One history"

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Well done Hamilton! Well deserved but you played it too cautiously this time and my heart almost stopped! Massa drove a great race but the right man won, had it not been for the stewards Hamilton would have had it sewn up a couple of races ago, i really think he will get better now and more confident and will gro with this win.

Next year will be great with the new rules and driver changes. Next yearI predicat Hamilton, Massa, Alonso, Kubica to be strong. I think Hamilton needs a better team mate, lets hope Kovy improvess and Vettel is a future champion as long as he gets the right car. F1 is rich with talent.

Not sure abour Raikkonens commitment and i think it could be his last season as he does not look interested.

P.s I hope Honda give Button the car he deserves or Mclaren and Honda do a deal and swap Button for Kovy as I think Button is great in the right car.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

There was no order for Timo to pull over but there was a order that Kimi was not to overtake Alonso,and to quote Kimi he was told to think about Massa's champioship.
Well done Hamilton i hope you get many more wins.

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comment by Sortit (U6820024)

posted Nov 3, 2008

NicosBg has posted the same comment about choking on every thread - do you have anything intelligent to say at all?
Respect to Massa for the way he has conducted himself all season, and especially after the race yesterday. Shame about all the LH hating muppets.

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comment by Mr T (U2432776)

posted Nov 3, 2008

Ah let him be. I imagine poor little Nikos was for want of a better word spurting in his pants on the last lap. Only like the Ferrari garage to realise that being premature can be embarassing and lead to disappointment.

I don't mind people hating Lewis as long as it's for reasons other than race. However, hating him won't stop him being world champion or having a fit bird and tonnes of cash. All in all not bad for a boy from a council estate in the U.K.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Well done to Lewis Hamilton on winning the title?
But are we now sadley not at the begining of a new age of F1 but watching it's slow death.Races if thay can be called that are Processional and uninteresting. The whole thing is dicribed as the F1 circus and that is about right. I am affraid to say as with many sports it has become complicated,expensive and out of the average persons pocket ie ticket prices! The governing body is poweless and descisions are made on the whim and call of the money on offer. F1 will soon strugle to attract the one man dreamers and Entrepreneurs who once made it exciting. Obviously we have the " credit crunch" effect also this could see the whole F1 business on the floor
So well done Lewis but I think the game will be different in comming years !!!

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Well done Lewis and good luck for many more. You won't have a more nail biting Sunday's entertainment. How ever many thousand miles they raced and it came down to the last 100 metres.

Strange isn't it. Massa made fewer driving errors then Lewis yet finishes second but Ferrari make more mistakes and finish top of the constructers. All I mean is that Lewis can still get better!

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comment by vbanzy (U13670695)

posted Nov 3, 2008

I'd never thought how much is this forum manipulated. What about the free speach?

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comment by Tony K (U7790805)

posted Nov 3, 2008

GTV John,how do those sour grapes taste? You are one hell of a sad case,blinkered bigots like you clearly have their reasons for not wanting Hamilton to win.You hide your true feelings behind puerile bile which you vomit up on these forums.Well you know what suck on this,Lewis Hamilton F1 Champion 2008,and it makes it more sweeter when sad racists like you cry over it.

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comment by Tony K (U7790805)

posted Nov 3, 2008

Quote vbanzy

"I wonder how much Mercedes will pay to his compatriot Glock for the scandalous open way he did. Money can do everything, specially pounds."


Nowhere near as much as Ferrari paid the FIA for some of their decisions against Mclaren I bet.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Well done Lewis! And I'm sending you the bill to have my nails re-built...

Commiserations to Massa, a worthy contender against the expectations at the start of the season. My heart went out to Massas family who thought he had won, only to be brought back down to earth with a heart-wrenching bump.

Roll on 2009, although I doubt we'll see a finale like that again. Alonso will definitely feature more in next years battle. Could there be a 4 or even 5 way fight for the title next year?? Bring it on!

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comment by nibs (U13128545)

posted Nov 3, 2008

1.There was no more spray from the tyres than before if any at all. On the contrary some sort of dry line can be seen even in the last corners.
2.There were no more drops than before on the onboard camera
3.Glock when spotted didn't seem to struggle with handling, opposite locks etc just slow in the straight
4.Glock's last sector was 3 seconds slower than Trulli's whilst his first 2 were 3s faster. Trulli reached the last sector in supposedly worse conditions.
5.Glock didn't try at all to defend his position like anybody else would, especially considering it was the last corner of the race, he almost pulled alongside on the kerb

Draw your own conclusions.-

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Nice to see a Brit. win, especially when he seems to be a really decent young man. A much better role model than many of our sports people ( to be fair, there are others who are good role models, just the bad ones stand out). Just a pity it was in F1, rather than something more interesting (synchronised swimming, tiddlywinks etc.) where spectators see more than "whoosh" once a lap. Let us hope the BBC's tedious wall to wall coverage will not last much longer.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Well Well Well,

It doesn't surprise me to see the famous NikosBg on here today with sour grapes.

All I have to say to you is HAHA GUTTED.

I could bet with my life that you were one of those idiots who were jumping up and down (like Massa Snr) when Massa crossed the line.

The fact of the matter is, yes it may seem harsh on Massa but I don't particulary give a toss. I don't have time for Ferrari or anyone associated with Ferrari.

People seem to forget that Massa has been given a 2nd and even 3rd bite of the cherry when you consider that he was handed the win at the Belgium GP and was given a place at Japan.

In my opinion the right man won the championship and the manner in which he won it is even more pleasing. I love the fact that I can sit here any gloat about it.

My heart goes out to people like you NikosBg, it really does because there is nothing you can say or do to wipe this huge smile off my face.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

NikosBg, you're just a sore loser. Shut up!

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comment by nibs (U13128545)

posted Nov 3, 2008

Never in history has somebody been seen driving such a tragic and pitiful race yet be crowned champion. It is a scandal and a humiliation for motorsport in general.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Massa showed great dignity in defeat, Alonso visited the McClaren garage to congratulate Lewis.
I think both deserve respect - lets keep the competition on the tracks and don't be fooled by media misquotes that make mountains out of molehills. Just because you dont like someone doesnt mean you hate them. They are all brilliant drivers and we want all of them back next year. Lets show the Brits can be generous and not petty and set an example.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

NikosBg = bad loser

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comment by nibs (U13128545)

posted Nov 3, 2008

After yesterday's public undressing, everybody was put in the place they belong.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

The Todblaster,

I appreciate what your saying that we should show respect and not be petty but I beg to differ.

Just 12 months ago the whole world and his wife seemed to have something negative to say about Hamilton. He's a choker, He's a loser, etc.

Well today it's a chance for all Hamilton fans to stick two fingers up at everyone. I don't care if people think its juvenile or dis-respectful.

You know the saying... what goes around comes around.

WELL DONE HAMILTON - YOUNGEST EVER F1 WORLD CHAMPION

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posted Nov 3, 2008

NicosBug - you are getting so pathetic now it's an embarrassment. Nobody in the entire motorsport industry agrees with you. Even the FIA don't agree with you.

Lewis Hamilton is Formula 1 World Champion!

Just learn to live with it, or seek medical advice.

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posted Nov 3, 2008

Fantastic race and well done Lewis. F1's gonna be good for the next few years there's so much talent on the grid now.
Get a life all you moaners who just complain about our great sportsmen and women, all the time.

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