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Newport v New Zealand 1963

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posted Oct 30, 2008

I was there and I drank the pubs dry in Newport that glorious day.

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posted Oct 30, 2008

swansea also beat new zealand. however, like Newport, it would seem that their inability to ram it down everyones throat in each conversation has cost them dearly when trying to stand alone.

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posted Oct 30, 2008

virtualLinebreaker - some may even point to the fact that a certain side from St Helen's were the first Welsh team to beat all three of the southern hemisphere giants, New Zealand, South Africa and Australia...

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posted Oct 30, 2008

I think what made the victory so special was the fact that no-one else beat them on the tour and (apparently) it was a very string NZ team fielded to. I say apparently as I'm only 16 so have only heared stories of that momentous day.

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posted Oct 30, 2008

Wish I could have seen it, not many people know Newport have beaten all 3 SH giants!!

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posted Oct 30, 2008

Good to see the BBC are covering the story. For many years it has appeared that the BBC (& many other's in the media) were obsessed with the Scarlets victory. Granted both victories are noteworthy but if you compare the Llanelli and Newport wins you could justifiably argue that Newport's acheivement was the greater, but has had far less media coverage. Newport beat a Kiwi team which was stronger, containing several All Black legends and had a far better tour record than the one Llanelli beat. I don't mean to disrespect the Llanelli acheivement but it does seem that the media fixation on that result has overshadowed several other victories by Welsh sides over the major touring sides. Like I said it is not just the BBC guilty of this - I note that the Western Mail has failed to note the anniversary of this match! Hopefully the BBC article is going to start to redress the balance.

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comment by silurix (U1668420)

posted Oct 30, 2008

I remember mitching off school to see the match ( I didn't go to school in Newport ) and what a filthy day it was. It was difficult to tell who was Newport and who was Kiwi by the end. When John Uzzell dropped the goal I thought he had missed , it skimmed so low. The thing I always remember is when Don Clarke charged into a ruck and hit it full tilt - the whole crowd let out a shocked 'Ooooooh' as if they felt it themselves. He was built like a BSH so it must have hurt someone. Great game despite the low score.

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posted Oct 30, 2008

Iremember watching it on TV it was a fantastic win, conditions were terrible,but we won and a deserved win it was.Wouldn't it be great if we could have those long overseas tours back again.Well done NEWPORT from a Scarlets supporter.

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posted Oct 30, 2008

Newport like Swansea have not banged on about beating the All Blacks. In 1963 The All Blacks lost 1 game, on the 1972-73 tour the All Blacks lost 7 games including games at the beating hearts of rugby Union; Workington and Birmingham.
Do the good people of Workington remind everyone daily that the AB's were beaten at their town? Do they also bang on about drinking the pubs dry?
Must be time for BBC Wales and Llanelli to start planning the 37th anniversary of them beating the AB'S.

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posted Oct 31, 2008

The reason why not many people outside Newport and Swansea know a lot about these games is because the one eyed Turks talk a(little bit)more about their 'Famous Victory'

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comment by emack6 (U8560561)

posted Oct 31, 2008

Llanlli,Swansea,Cardiff,Newport, plus
Munster and area English and French teams have all beaten All Black sides at one time or other.Newports victory was significant for 2 things the 1963-4 All Black side was undoubtly the best in the world.Those of 1935,53,and 73 were teams in rebuilding mode.The second point was the discipline of the side,which did not give The Boot[DON CLARKE] a chance to kick goals.That ment any where up to there own 10 metre line[65 metre kicks were his speciality].Later on tour this great goal kicker pulled a ham string playing Wales,and his goal kicking was off for the rest of the tour until the last match in England [barbrians when it came back].He was in great form again at home in 1964 but injury that year ended hid career.

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posted Oct 31, 2008

Hawkes Bay beat the strongest French team to ever tour NZ and the 93 Lions :D
Sorry to hijack your thread but i take any chance to point out our strong record against touring international sides.

I'll be doing some research on the Newport win, i love the old stories of clubs beating the ABs. Its always treasured which is cool.
I feel the same way about the Bay.
Its a shame that the proper rugby tour no longer exists making these things near on impossible.

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posted Oct 31, 2008

I think we all need to remember that llanelli beat the worst ever NZ touring team to come here and their second string midweek side at that.If you look back over history you will see that they are way behind Cdf and Npt on victories between the clubs but no doubt the welsh speaking scarlett luvvies that run bbc wales wouldn't agree.West cert isn't bestbiggrin

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posted Oct 31, 2008

as well as Cdf and Npt beating Llanelli so many more times than Llanelli beating Cdf/Npt over the years I haven't noticed Llanelli/Scarletts beating the Springboks yet.Maybe the new "cathedral and spiritual home of welsh rugby" they have built will ensure that the great tradition of supplying future legends to the welsh side will continue? Nrly all GS players the last few years from Npt,Cdf,Swansea,Ponty,Bridgend aren't they?

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posted Dec 19, 2010

As a very naive 13 year old in school in Chepstow we were allowed the afternoon off if had a ticket for the game.
I was in the enclosure just under the edge of the stand roof almost level with John (Dick) Uzzell when he dropped at goal.
I can still remember the feeling of excitement and trepidation as I made my way to the ground, I worshipped Dai Watkins, and to this day believe he is the finest Fly Half I have ever seen.
We didn't have any black men in Chepstow and I had only ever seen one on rare trips to Cardiff, they were mysterious people to me at that time, I had read about the flanker for New Zealand called Waka Nathan, he was a Maori and in the book I read it said that Maoris were a fearsome people who had been known to take part in cannibalistic rituals, I was terrified that if Nathan caught Dai he would try to eat him.
Nathan chased Dai all through the game, then about mid way through the second half he caught him, my heart was in my mouth as a pile of players engulfed both of them, Gwyn Walters (the Ref) blew up and gradually everyone got to their feet, for a second Dai lay still then as he moved to get up I know I and probably many others let out a sigh of relief.
That day will live with me forever, not just the fantastic team performance and victory, but also the great sportsmanship show by Wilson Whinneray (a real Gent) and his team, they must have signed thousands of autographs on the long walk back to the clubhouse, I still have mine.

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