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The Gilles Simon Appreciation Thread

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comment by Bourne (U3020163)

posted Oct 18, 2008

Gilles is a new legend of, not just tennis or sport, but of the human race <cool>

<bubbly>

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posted Oct 18, 2008

fabulous effort to reach the final...congrats to him

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posted Oct 18, 2008

I thought the Sky commentators were being really disrespectful to Simon at the beginning, basically laughing at him and saying he didn't have a hope in hell- well they can stick those comments!!!! <applause><applause>

As a Nadal fan, Simon totally deserved to win. He was the one who was aggressive and took the game to Nadal, who was really passive in the tb. Still it's been a great year for him and is now guaranteed to end the year as No.1 <applause>. This loss does not take away from that <ok>. Nameless, chumba, do you both see Nadal dropping out of Paris next week??? I just have a hunch that now that he's got the No.1 ranking wrapped up he might want to rest that shoulder, oh and do you rate Simon tomorrow???

A por ello Simon- juega su mejor tenis!!!! <bubbly>

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comment by Bourne (U3020163)

posted Oct 18, 2008

Well he's got his work cut out to win Paris or Shanghai anyway, but I hope he plays in Paris, for a few reasons.

Anyway, this is a Gilles Simon appreciation thread <cool>

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posted Oct 18, 2008

Gilles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

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posted Oct 18, 2008

Couldn't have put in any better Toni. <applause>

Congratulations to Gilles Simon on a well deserved first final <bubbly>

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posted Oct 18, 2008

GILLES the man..that was a real gutsy effort taking it to Nadal. In comparison fed wound up rather tamely in his match in the third set. SImon can not only keep the ball in play for long under pressure , he can whip those forehands in to the open court and play them inch perfect. Sure other players can pick up cues to play those crucial points watching Simon.

What I saw today was a man enjoying playing under pressure. those smiles in between were so refreshing. He is no one-dimensional player.

great performance SIMON. <ok>

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comment by Cogen (U10240152)

posted Oct 18, 2008

It was a brilliant match for me to watch because I really didnt care who won. Pure entertainment. Congrats to Simon. New world #10 ;) <bubbly>

A side note... does anyone else thing he looks a bit like a Thunderbirds puppet? Its the shiny face and the big eyebrows I think <laugh>

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posted Oct 18, 2008

And Nameless was castigating me for not backing Karlovic <laugh>

Congrats to Simon <ok>

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posted Oct 18, 2008

Simon won himself a lot of new fans today..and I'm one of them. Makes things even more exciting for next season.

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posted Oct 18, 2008

Hi debs <hug>, do you see Nadal playing Paris??? I just think he might want to rest that shoulder- he's got the DC final to think about.

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comment by Andy (U5153125)

posted Oct 18, 2008

Simon is another young'un with a shed-load of talent and I expect him to be in the mix from now on. A bit like Murray in that aspect (maybe 6 - 12 months behind in terms of results/experience) but he definitely seems to have gone beyond promising to significant threat. None of the top 4 are going to like seeing him in their part of the draw. The coming years are going to be great for men's tennis.

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posted Oct 18, 2008

I cannot believe what I witnessed today. AMAZING. First I thought this would be a routine win for Rafa as he had the first set and was ahead in the second. But what a fightback from the most gutsy player in ATP!!!!!

Every time he was in trouble his courage and fighting spirit really showed and my god did he produce brilliant winners! At the last match point I was on the edge of crying being so moved by Simon's performance. I am very tempted to say that this is the best tennis match I have ever seen..such was the quality.

Nadal wasn't playing bad. But Gilles was outstanding. Forget Federer and Nadal, this guy is the real deal provided he can improve a few areas when the first serve doesnt go in and he continues his consistency.

When he won I had goose bumps, that usually doesn't happen to me. I will never forget this day. The best guy to beat Nadal, by far. Hats off.

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posted Oct 18, 2008

"It would be nice to see the best players getting to finals"

lol the better player won gringo. If Nadal was was one the best players this week he would have made, the final; he wasn't and so he didn't. It's not quantum mechanics...

I take back everything I've ever said about Gilles, today he became a legend. Outplayed El Burro at his own game and in his own backyard too, in front of a hostile crowd which was often unsporting - but that never even unsettled him a bit. Hard to believe this guy is French with the mental strength he has shown, 5 wins coming back from a set down, a total of 6 MPs saved and 4 final set TBs won this week.
All that remains to be said is thank h*n he had a challenge left at the end, or El Burro and his biased linejudges would have robbed the day.

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posted Oct 18, 2008

Simon what a season from the boy people should have been taking a look at this guy since February, outstanding stuff.

ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Most improved player or one off <ok><cool>

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posted Oct 18, 2008

"I am very tempted to say that this is the best tennis match I have ever seen..such was the quality."

The quality was never great, the rallies were very nervy most of the time apart from the odd point here and there including that spectacular running FH DTL from Simon. But it was high in tension and drama, that is for sure, and Simon's attitude throughout was impressive to witness.

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posted Oct 18, 2008

the match was intriguing to watch as it was a battle of wills which Simon won comprehensively with his iron determination.

What's more...he did it with a smile and looked as though he was enjoying it... now that is being a true sportsman.!!!

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posted Oct 18, 2008

The Nameless One

By best match I mean a combination of things:

- the underdog doing extremely well against a class act and the best in the world
- the tension, drama and nail biting action
- challenger never giving up despite being very very tired...simon literally needed a wheel chair after that. Lets not forget he has been involved in tough long matches, for him to even have made this competitive would just be respect. But for him to win it...what can I say?
- brilliant shot making by both. Some of the winners were just insane. The variety of the shots by both just gave that match the edge that ranks it very high in my book.

We have all seen two top seeds producing quality tennis. This match was different. It was about trying to beat the world number one, in front of Nadal's home crowd, and most important of all being successful.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

Fantastic match, I think even Nadal thought he had this one in the bag half way through the second set. Could not believe the spirit of Simon, what a pleasure to watch.

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comment by albert (U6379863)

posted Oct 19, 2008

not to be a spoil sport, but i would wait to see gilles consistently perform before lauding him as the next best thing.

however it was a good match and a well deserverd win.

i didnt even watch the match for the first two sets expecting a nadal cake walk.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

"Simon is another young'un..."

He's nearly 24.. is that young?

I'd be looking for him to follow this result up before somersaulting into another bandwagon.

Well done to him though - few players can sustain the level required to beat Nadal.

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comment by ArianK (U12971704)

posted Oct 19, 2008

Oh come on, he has won one big match. Letīs see if he is consistent, also, he is not a "young" talent. He is 24, itīs a bit like Santoro. Sometimes comes with big wins, but we have yet to see consistency.

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comment by Bourne (U3020163)

posted Oct 19, 2008

He's beaten Djokovic, Federer and Nadal this year. To the casual tennis fan, you'd probably think he's come from nowhere and this is a fluke run. It isn't, he's been threatening this for a couple of years now. The next stage would be to reach the second week of a slam for the first time, Australia represents a good chance.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

Wanted to start duch a thread myself.

What have poeple got against this guy?

"A poor man's Murray" (Peter Fleming) and "he sucks the blood from his opponents" (Barry Cowan)

BBC Breakfast News mentioned him as Murray's surprise opponent. What was less surprising was that they didn't show a single point from his epic win.

Shame on you BBC. Yes I'd love to see Murray win but Simon is just as deserving if he causes (yet another) upset.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

He's come to this tournament with two first-round losses to Mahut and Schwank.

When he got his title in Bucharest he didn't beat anyone in the top-50, and likewise Indianapolis didn't see him beat anyone in the top-30, Cassablanca again no-one in the top 50 (Tsonga withdrew).

Not to take away from his win yesterday - but many players are threatening to be good. To my mind, apart from his defeat of Federer (when Federer was loosing all over the place) he hasn't done... Much. Yet. Del-Potro-esque.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

"Del-Potro-esque."

... In the sense that Del Potro has won several titles without beating anyone :)

But the difference is Del Potro is actually young...

Should also have added - I think Murray will win in straight sets. 58% sure of it. 71% sure that he will win in 2 or 3.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

Oh this is going to come as a real surprise to you Nameless.

Simon deserved to win that match yesterday, as he did against Dr Ivo - everyone was saying that Rafa had a clear run to the final.. I DIDNT.

Simon the "Giant Killer" is a "grinder" and played Rafa at his own game... well done him.

However Im sure you will be able to find some "bitchy" comment to make... even at that cos there is no pleasing you
<doh>

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comment by Cheryl (U12594430)

posted Oct 19, 2008

Yes, he did play well, but no excitement it was clear executed uninteresting tennis. i couldn't say I sat on the edge of my seat it was clinical and "grinding" is a perfect word for the match. rafa did not play well after the middle of the second set and we all have an off day! I think Gilles is someone who plays well in places especially if someone else dosen't raise their game. Good on him but I'm pretty sure the big boys will sit down and work out how not to play him, something they obviously need to do! Give me some excitement this is not the kind of tennis I would sit up all night for.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

"I think Murray will win in straight sets."

Actually I'm not sure at all, but it helps to denigrate Mr Simon in my own head to console myself about Murray's chances.
EEEK!
Come ON Murray!

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posted Oct 19, 2008

can't find it but did say that simons unfussy game would see him pop up in the late stages of a few tournaments and he'd become a fixture of the top 10 in a davydenko kind of way. GS? no way. couple of SFs here and there. yeah.

nadal at this time of year, on carpet is practically someone hovering about the no.10 spot, not a true reflextion of simon taking a step up imo.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

Agree with that, Napoleon. Nadal has improved on last years performance, so he can take positives from that - and he has stretched his lead over Djokovic and Federer, who have both made poorer showings.

Hope Murray plays today as he has over the past two days. Soon to be world Number 3?<erm>

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posted Oct 19, 2008

first time I agree with Nameless one Simon played a great game to win it. Surprisingly Nadal looked very angry during the match against Lopez when he was winning, the anger didnt cost Rafa though as he went on to pummel Lopez after that.

But is that something a reason why he lost to Giles.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

Though I fear Nameless's praise of Simon, who "saved tennis yesterday" is an underhand comment on Nadal rather than true praise of the victor...

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posted Oct 19, 2008

Levathian

hence my post <biggrin>
such was the transparency !!

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posted Oct 19, 2008

I wouldn't think Nameless has any cause to hide the nature of this article - but people who misread it as well-intentioned should be corrected :)

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posted Oct 19, 2008

There is always a danger of reading too much into a single Masters Series event.

Whilst congratulating any winner or good result is of course right, it has to be looked at in context.

With 9 events a year, Federer leads current players overall MS results with 14 wins from 23 finals.

The overall record is Agassi with 17 shields in 15 years.

Nadal is the most concentrated with 12 out of 16 finals.

Fact of the matter is that even the greats dont notch up huge totals and the fed/Nadal totals show their domination in recent years.

So yes great to achieve for anyone, but consistency is the key overall.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

I must say Gilles played very well yesterday so all credit to him. Unfortunately Rafa couldn't serve at full potential or did his forehand at full strength because of his shoulder injury. He had an injection the previous day and I guess once he won the first set, he went on cruise control which you really can't do with someone like Gilles, who is a grinder and as the commentators said, he sucks the blood out of you. By that time, though all credit to Rafa, he did try, but he wasn't able to raise his game and this could well be down to the Shoulder injury.

Please he knew Federer had already lost and that he had sealed the year end World No. 1 spot so why cause more injury to yourself!

I believe next year Madrid will be played in Clay so he can win more points instead of having to defend yet again. So, all in all, well done Simon but also Extremely well done to Rafa for this awesome achievements this year! Through more tennis still to come ....

Exciting times for Tennis fans ... many talents in the mens game, though I am a Rafa fan period!

Vamos Rafa.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

Simon, consistency?

Oh come one he's beaten the top 3 this year and moved from the low 30's to the fringe of top 10 at least <doh>

Simon also beat Murray last year although it was on clay.

Simon has won three titles this year too, Casablanca, Indianapolis and Bucharest and consistent performances in Masters events.

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comment by Bourne (U3020163)

posted Oct 19, 2008

Plus he keeps the same level throughout his matches, playing similar tennis at a strong level of fitness from first point to last set TB. That is consistent.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

"Simon, consistency?<doh>"

I'll say it again -

He's come to this tournament after two consecutive first-round losses to Mahut and Schwank. Consistent?

To win his Titles in Bucharest AND Casablanca he didn't have to beat anyone in the top-50, and likewise Indianapolis didn't see him beat anyone in the top-30. A world-beater?

Apart from his defeat of Federer and Djokovic (when Federer was loosing all over the place, and Novak hasn't been awesome of late) he hasn't done anything!

Never reached the 4th round in a Grand Slam, hows that?..

Not consistent in my book. He's risen the rankings by the same means as Del Potro.

I'm sure no-one will claim that Nadal was playing well yesterday, or that he ever plays to his capacity at this stage in the year...

If he beats Murray today, I will be more accepting of blind praise.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

...Except my opinion of, and expectations for Del Potro are far higher because he's actually young.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

to be honest, in the smaller events you can give him two first round exits as they are not as important as masters series events and he has excelled in them and can't fault him in tour events either with three titles, plus with him going out in round 1 of last 2 events it shows he is strong mentally to reach the final of an event with a high class field.

Also Chumba raises a good point he puts effort and variation into every point and the man must have Stamina in the bucket load with his wins this week and with that he can surely go a long way if not already <ok>

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posted Oct 19, 2008

Will Simon have anything left for the final?

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posted Oct 19, 2008

I'm still sceptical - I would feel that Simon should have done something by his age if he is to do anything substantial.

Not sure why two first-round defeats shows him to be mentally strong. I think it might show that he has mentally shifted towards concentrating on bigger events, which is fine.


Given that Simon survived, was it 4 three-set matches with final set tie-breaks, I'm sure he can add another if it hasn't already killed him.

I just hope Murray wins, is all.

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posted Oct 19, 2008

Sour grapes from many people here. <erm>

"all credit to Rafa"

<doh>

"Apart from his defeat of Federer and Djokovic (when Federer was loosing all over the place, and Novak hasn't been awesome of late) he hasn't done anything!"

lol

He won against Novak early in the year, after the AO. You are now also automatically degrading Nadal's win over Djokovic at the olympics, as well as Tsonga's, Murray's Federer's etc.

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comment by Bourne (U3020163)

posted Oct 19, 2008

notorious

<ok>

Remember this is an appreciation thread for Gillou <laugh>

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comment by Cheryl (U12594430)

posted Oct 19, 2008

Going to say it just once more. gilles won fair and square, Rafa was not at his best and Gilles tennis is so boring I certainly wont be longing to watch his matches. rafa makes me stay up all night usually just for the excitement, but Gilles yes Ok he won but he bores me rigid. I dont generally support Murray but at least he has a bit more fire in his belly. Come on Andy dont let us be bored to tears again!

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posted Oct 19, 2008

Chumba, some people can't give credit to players who defeated their favorites. <erm>

Not even at a place specifically designed to do se. <doh>

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comment by Bourne (U3020163)

posted Oct 19, 2008

I know, it's a real shame. Maybe when they've got over the 'shock' in a few weeks time, they'll find the strength <erm>

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