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Why all the pessimism

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posted Sep 22, 2008

Xisco has the worst first touch I've ever seen from a professional footballer.

We have pessimism because our squad is paper-thin, and more will want to go in January.

We're in serious trouble.

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posted Sep 22, 2008

By the time Jan comes we will have a new owner and a new manager so new players will come in, cant see many players leaving just more paper talk.

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posted Sep 22, 2008

Why can't you see players leaving? Why would they stay?

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posted Sep 22, 2008

Have you watched the players over the last two games?

They are playing without passion, pride or any battle, they have given up already, the management have given up too and when that happens there is only going to be one result, relegation is a huge possibility now, it is going to need something very drastic to change to avoid it, so lets get real here.

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posted Sep 22, 2008

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Due to the recent fluctuations in the emotion markets over the last few weeks we are unable to continue with your current requirements of optimism as it has recently been in very short supply and we cannot guarantee its availability.

Because of this we have changed your account to provide easier access to hopelessness and desperation.

Note that your daily allowance of pessimism has been upgraded to allow you to cope with the current market trends.

In the event that optimism returns and becomes more widely available we will revert your account to its previous settings.

Yours despondently,

I C Gloom
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posted Sep 22, 2008

GeordiO = your questioning of the pessimism is like survivors of the Titanic disaster sitting in their lifeboat saying "well at least we still have a boat and when we get back to Liverpool we'll build a new ship"
The reason for all the pessimism is as plain as the nose on your face. Yes people need some hope to cling to but it has to be real tangible hope based on reality and good foundations. Both are a million miles away at present. 5* for trying to raise the spirits 1* for the questioning.

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posted Sep 22, 2008

Many Thanks Overseas

Your message has been noted and filed into long queue of complete despair folder where i am sure one of our operatives will see to you in a timescale yet to be decided, we were thinking of a five year plan of action taking into account, mild depression, anger management, complete loss of bodily functions, suicidal tendencies and Coldplay's latest album, the recovery period could be very slow and we give no guarantees.

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posted Sep 22, 2008

our squad is fine, its a shame we always have either Martins or Owen injured, Football must be a lot more dangerous than Rugby League, most weeks, Sharks have only one or two players out, whereas Newcastle have like 6 - 10 out lol, there is nothing to say really, we can only wait, surely we will be sold this week maybe next at the latest which gives 3 months for some stability to be instilled before the January transfer window, the worst that can happen is we lose all our games and players, the best is we win all our games and keep all our players + get more in woo, all we can do now is sit and wait and see if either of those two things happens or something somewhere in between, (if the Nigerians are trying to raise another 50mil, they obviously arent billionaires, which is annoying)

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posted Sep 22, 2008

Dear Mr. Rokkudan,

Thank you for the update concerning my previous note.

I wish to update you further on the situation as you have mentioned the use of Coldplay as a stimulant.

In a recent poll of our customers it was deemed as melancholy with surprisingly upbeat moments.

We would strongly suggest liberal doses of Leonard Cohen instead to maximize the unlimited usage of your despair and sadness.

This will ensure that at no point will you feel optimistic at any given point during playback and avoid the taxation that is pending on joy and hope.

Yours in the doldrums,

I C Gloom
Director of Accounts

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posted Sep 22, 2008

<musicalnote>look out the window my little darling, and its so long Marianne, its time to laugh and cry and cry and blow it all away<musicalnote>

Don't forget to pray for the angels or the angels will forget to pray for us!

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posted Sep 22, 2008

I don't think a lot of people understand how SERIOUS this is.

It's not like our yearly crises since Keegan left in early 97.




We've got no manager, no manager wants to come here, the owner is trying to sell (but for a ridiculously high price) and 1/2 our squad have an eye on the exit in the January window.

This isn't just "another" crisis, this is one with the potential to utterly ruin the club. :(

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posted Sep 22, 2008

You know... when your club is relegated, the fans don't head out onto the pitch and commit ritual suicide...

or at least I don't remember being invited to anything like that when we went down.

Ah well, not to worry. Come on down to the Championship. It's fun here, and there's fizzy drinks.

<ok>

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Play the reserves i bet they would put in a better game than the overpaid has suad players
they will show more passion and get better results

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posted Sep 23, 2008

i think newcastle need a lot more than confidence, they need a new owner, a new manager, and they need a few points too.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Big Ron Atkinson! Only joking, surely someone like Stuart Pearce would be up for taking the reigns in the interim - he's got another job so wouldn't be too put out if his services were no longer required when the club was bought (hey, he experienced it already at Man City), has Premier League management experience (including steadying the ship), knows Kevin Keegan's style (if he was, as is expected, paving the way for Keegan's return), has played for the Toon Army, has a number of England U21s he could keep his eye on at St James Park.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Reckon I could get a job as Newcastle Mmanager? I wouldn't want a huge salary. 150k PA would do me nicely. A decent company car wouldn't be turned down. I'm a pretty good motivator of my team at work. I can speak to most people at all levels. If they decided I wasn't good enough after a couple of months I would happily walk away with what's left of the yearly salary and the car. Now in anybody's book thats not as big a risk as any other person in contention. OK so Im mad.Hmmmm.

Dear Necastle United FC.
I am writing in response to the job vacancy advertised in the local paper of team manager....

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comment by Tom (U2182457)

posted Sep 23, 2008

As long as MA cannot find a buyer I hope NUFC get relegated then he will have to sell at a huge loss because the club will not be worth anything never mind the 430M he is asking. This will serve the Spurs supporting makem right as he will lose even more money, and he will have to stand on the terraces at Spurs or Sunderlnad as he will not be able to afford anything else. I cannot wish him well because of his mistakes andit will be shame for all theloyal fans but unfortunatley the only way forward.
What I do not understand is why MA does not simply eat humble pie admit his business case is flawed with DW et al, get rid of DW et al reappoint KK, who could if need be appoint his own DoF ,and everyone will be happy. The fans will forgive MA and the club can move forward with KK at the helm - it is very easy to let pride get in the way of what is best. MA needs to listen to ALL of the pundits / experts who disagree with his philosophy even Ferguson backs KK that has to be a first!!

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Owen and Harps! giving us hope, thats the way

the way a captain should roll

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posted Sep 23, 2008

I failed at the first hurdle 'cos I can't spell Newcastle <doh>. Ah well. Their loss.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Is it possible to "sit bottom of the Premier League table, one place above Newcastle" ??!

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posted Sep 23, 2008

"Barring Maun U and Chelsea if you took 6 first choice players out of any team in league then they would go through a bad run as well."

No, you cant bar anyone, not even the top 4. Six top players out of any team and I think you'll find a vast difference. Utd have yet to kick top gear, as they do, without Ronaldo, much less. Chelsea will miss Deco and Carvalho for the fortnight at the least. Without Essien too, and Drogba on the bench they looked out of sorts overall Sunday. Add Cech, Drogba and Lampard out for a month and see a different Chelsea side. Add to Ronaldo Rooney, Tevez, Ferdinand, Vidic, and Giggs and see a different Man Utd side performing.

I like NUFC, come high, come low, they are fully supportive of their team. others talk negatively about Keegan but he is one with the fans and vice versa. They know when they bleed, he bleeds with them and that is what they want from their manager most of all. Allardyce didnt stand a chance as a result. Need a new owner, new management team, need results. Who can take over now, other than Keegan, who can lift the team and the fans?

To the fans - keep the faith, call for Ashley to sell up if he can't make up, and get behidn the team every match, whether they're winning, losing or drawing. With the scenes behind closed doors so dishevelled, the team need the fans big time.

Good luck to NUFC.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Newcastle are still a big enough club to attract a reasonably big name manager. Look at the names mentioned for flippin West Ham! You're having a bad time at the moment, but you were having an awful one at this point last season as well, and you still got away with it in the end. Saying its relegation at this point is just fatalistic. Yes, if every one of your problems blossoms into a disaster, then you're done for, but you'll get a new manager soon enough and I don't see an exodus of players as yet.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

"But Owen confessed the players are as clueless as the supporters about Newcastle's long-term future."

Agree with Owen's comments about the supporters being clueless. This mess is very much of NUFC fans own making. They got Allardyce the sack, the replacement has turned out to be a prima donna. Your protests have been against the wrong people.

<doh>

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posted Sep 23, 2008

"They got Allardyce the sack, the replacement has turned out to be a prima donna."

He wanted exclusive rights over who goes and stays and that was being dragged from him. He didnt want to have to share the responsibility with anyone, and he was right. It is why he has come under praise from two top managers and follows that of Alan Curbishley.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

There's a fine line between delusions of grandeur and realistic expectations; it's high time the Sid James' Park faithful start being sensible about their footy club and introduce longtermism and consistency into their belief systems.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

It's hard not to agree that Newcastle Supporters have the club they deserve.
And the worse it gets, the louder they protest.
And the louder they protest, the worse it gets.

This has been going on for decades - the club is a laughing stock

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posted Sep 23, 2008

"This has been going on for decades - the club is a laughing stock"

Years maybe, decades no. Promotion 1992, famous victory over Man Utd 1996. I would go for 1997 when Keegan left the decline began to set in.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

<<comment by paul4578 (U4681610)
Is it possible to "sit bottom of the Premier League table, one place above Newcastle" ??!>>
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Freudian slip perhaps !

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Football loving nutral here.

The major thing NUFC need at the moment is a manager to take control of the club, try and brighten things up in training and get the players playing.

If the appointment is on a short term basis it will not matter.

I know the NUFC fans will hate this but Dennis Wise could move up north and do the job short term.

As an alternative someone like David O'Leary may take the job on short term and would give the club a boost.

I can imagine that the players are unsettled with no manager, the club up for sale and they do not know where thier future lies.

At least by appointing a recognised manager even on a short term basis it has got to help.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Is there a concern that those who apply for the vacancy simply see the opening as one so vulnerable that NUFC will be desperate to appoint anyone, therefore their chances are that much greater? Would they be really focused on the task or are simply trying to get back into the managerial limelight for another vacancy?

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posted Sep 23, 2008

" Sid James' Park faithful "

<laugh><ok>

er we go again takes a back seat and watches the play in silence<biggrin>

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Now its a case of sitting it out and crossing some fingers...of course no manager wants the job, theres no prospect at all with NUFC for any serious manager, at least until a buy out happens. Any manager who takes the job now knows theres every chance he'll be out'd when a takeover goes through. Couple that with the prospect of absolute zero transfer possibilities AND the walkout/sale of players in January (and if Ashley doesnt find any takers by January, i'll bet a months salary messrs Owen and co will be off to the highest bidders to recoup him some money) means of course theres no takers.

Someone needs to buy Ashley out before anything else can happen I think, and for the sake of NUFC, it needs to be sooner than later. Its a shame its come to this...

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comment by Richard (U7205886)

posted Sep 23, 2008

parkrdrick (U7095753)

You were suggesting David O'leary as a new manager... but i seriously think Roy Keane would be perfect man for the club. He's the kind of manger who would be able to divert he attention from the club's backroom crises
whether he would come or not though is a different matter...

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posted Sep 23, 2008

'There's a fine line between delusions of grandeur and realistic expectations;'

We were in the Champions League 5 years ago, we have the 3rd largest attendances in the PL, we are the fifth highest payers of wages, and we have one of the largest turnovers in Europe.

Expectations should be high. The reason they have not been realised is incompetent manangement at the top of the club.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Heres a thought - get Stuart Pearce in part-time, as well as his England job. His transfer and player buying is shocking but he would bring stability and belief to the team.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Just ignore the fans like other clubs:D

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posted Sep 23, 2008

someone suggested roy keane what is he smoking why will roy keane leave sunderland where he is allowed to run the club as he likes and is given enough money to newcastle where the club has no future for now. i hope obafemi martins learn his lesson from this he had lots of offers and should have left now he is stuck

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Owls fan here, Newcastle is a club ive always liked to watch and had a soft spot for. Its a crying shame about 'King Kev' bring forced out. Why the hell cant Ashley at least try to sort out the mess he has made by getting rid of this so called 'continental' running of the club by letting Wise go and bringing back Keegan by saying 'I was wrong and I have trust in you to create a team capable of winning trophy's. For me having Directors of football to have the last say in who comes in and bringing in players themselves is and alwys has been a bad idea as the manager knows what his team is capable of and its the manager who knows who they need to bring in to improve the team, why should they go to the DOF to get who they need, it for me defeats the object of a football manager and the scouts that work under the manager.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

I don't think Newcastle have 'delusions of grandeur', they simply haven't been well-run for the last decade and it has cost them dearly. West Ham, Spurs, Man City, Leeds, Forest, et al all have a richer history and probably a better claim to be a top 4 club than Chelsea, but all those clubs have threatened to do something decent, but ultimately run aground due to poor management, bad chairmen and investors who promised the earth and delivered sweet FA (by which I don't mean the FA Cup). At the same time Chelsea have been run well and propelled themselves from also rans (average finish in the league for their first 80 odd years: 15th) to front runners.

It's a shame that nobody has been able to break the top 4 in recent years, but even more of a shame that so few clubs have spent responsibly, invested well and not had their heads turned by money which seemed to offer genuine long term stability but realistically was only someone playing tycoon and then bailing out when the going got tough.

I feel for the owner, as I think he had genuine aspirations at Newcastle but couldn't write the cheques that modern football demands to buy success.

I feel for Keegan, as it could have been a fairytale but turned into a tabloid soap opera.

But most of all I feel for the Newcastle fans who have to put up with it.

On the other hand, Newcastle is a huge club that some mad foreigner will happily invest billions in, so this whole situation may be a blessing in disguise. Unlike my club West Ham, who are frankly unlikely to attract anyone worth naming and are likely to rack up huge debts, keep offload even more players and slip into obscurity, especially if we have to pay Sheff Utd 35mill.

It's pretty sad when the money in football is really the only diference between success and failure.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Geordies, Leeds fan in peace
This is real crunch time for you guys
Time to make some tough decisions and bring in the right people not past favourites
Otherwise you could well be on the same slippery slope that we trod
Football certainly seems to have it's problems right now!!!

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Newcastle aren't a big club, yeah 10 years ago they weren't so bad but it seems like every newcastle supporter has clung to those memories for dear life in hope that nostalgia will replace reality.

You all need to wake up and start thinking more realistically, it's the fans fault all of this has happened, you have nobody to blame but yourselves. You boo out every manager you ever have, protest against the owners who's spent hundreds of millions from his own pocket to keep you afloat. Now no manager wants to come and no one wants to buy. Bad fans.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Poooooooo

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Let's hope some consortium takes over and puts Keegan back in charge.. awful manager who will hopefully put you back where you belong, in the championship

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comment by Richard (U5494855)

posted Sep 23, 2008

Port Vale fan in peace to Newcastle fans.
I hope you get a good manager in and get shot of Ashley a.s.a.p. But what you probably won't want to hear is: get rid of Owen. He's going to be off at the end of the season anyway so you may as well get some money for him. He believes he has a divine right to CL football & spends 1/2 your matches standing on halfway hands on hips like Kate Moss when she can't get her own way. You want people who want to play for you, like Given, Taylor and, from what I've seen of him, Gutierrez. Let the Scousers have him back. He and they deserve each other.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Newcastle Football Club!

What a joke!

:-D :-D :-D

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posted Sep 23, 2008

Don't be so deluded. ;)

"We were in the Champions League 5 years ago, we have the 3rd largest attendances in the PL, we are the fifth highest payers of wages, and we have one of the largest turnovers in Europe.

Expectations should be high. The reason they have not been realised is incompetent manangement at the top of the club."

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comment by vasilis (U8397050)

posted Sep 23, 2008

Is there any way that the seller knows that the buyer would be good enough?
Is only the money enough to run a club well?
When KK confessed last year that they will not be a top 4 club the upper floor did not like it.Yet they did not buy what he asked and they just proved his point.Now he left it looks like a bottom 4!Big attendaces are good but they do not score goals.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

The only prize that Newcastle will win this season is ...... they are the joke of the league.
They are way ahead of other teams like Spurs, Liverpool, West Ham etc.
Newcastle are a club in decline and their supporters should recognise this.

Thye said smile, and things could go worse.
Newcastle fans smiled, and sure enough, things got worse.
How does it feel to be a fan of a club that is a disaster waiting to happen.
Gordon Brown should nationalise you.

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posted Sep 23, 2008

I can't believe the similiarity between Liverpool's situation and the Newcastle one. One thing you guys can celebrate getting rid of the dead wood. Sadly both our numpty's still don't get the hint. I am sure a rich benefactor will be riding in soon to pump some serious money into the club. <ok>

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