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Bogdanovic flatters to deceive again

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posted Sep 19, 2008

And the alternative is?

There's a very good chance it'll be 2-2 going into the deciding rubber and since Andy can't play both singles on the last day then hope mthat Boggo does rise to the occasion.

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posted Sep 19, 2008

Bogdanovic has never lacked talnt, but mentally he just doesn't quite have it. However, perhaps the heightened pressure of a deciding rubber will kick him into gear.

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posted Sep 19, 2008

High time someone else was given a chance. It is blatently obvious that Boggo isn't up to it. Why not use the other Murray? He can't be any worse, can he?

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posted Sep 19, 2008

Bogdanovic is one of the biggest chokers in tennis. Appealing on heightened pressure to kick him into gear will only further soften his already fragile competitive psyche.

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comment by esthar2 (U3143339)

posted Sep 19, 2008

"However, perhaps the heightened pressure of a deciding rubber will kick him into gear."

.. I wouldn't hold your breath.

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comment by gids10 (U6051982)

posted Sep 19, 2008

Bogdanovic is a truly pathetic example of a tennis player. Id rather see a Jamie Baker style player who isnt as naturally talented but gives everything and gets the crowd on his side.

Playin Boggo is essentially conceding defeat. If someone like Baker had his talent hed be top 100 at least and closer to the 50 mark in my opinion.

It really does irk me when i see him get chance after chance without ever deserving it

BRING BACK ARVIND PARMAR!!!! <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>

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posted Sep 19, 2008

here is one kid who won't flatter to deceive. Marco is only 8 years old and has been training for only 18 months.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=clY5IHP0ljQ

the future of british tennis is bright!

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comment by SerieA (U11030281)

posted Sep 19, 2008

this is not a surprise, a the end of the day it is british tennis, and that is usually associated with failure, and dont go telling me murray this and murray that, the only thing the lta had to to do with him was pay the bills for an academy in spain

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comment by Ben (U1647575)

posted Sep 19, 2008

I don't know why people don't just give this guy a break......... He is the best we have and he gave it his best shot on the day - He wasn't good enough, end of.


It should be obvious at this stage in his career that he has basically reached his level in the game - A solid pro but nothing more, he obviously lacks the desire and drive to push him forward into the top 100, and that is his choice.

My only concern would be if the LTA are spending money on helping him out, when it would be better spent on a talented or rather, a hard working youngster.

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posted Sep 19, 2008

i just can`t understand lloyd giving boggo another go, he just cannot perform in front of crouds when the pressure is on.he just has no mental toughness at all.if it goes to a deciding rubber the preasure will be far to much, you just know he'll crumble. in future lloyd should give josh goodall of even chris eaton a go.

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comment by hiffuk (U10448555)

posted Sep 19, 2008

Alex Bogdanovic shows everything about british tennis in both womans and mens games??

Absolutly rubbish!

It says something when one of the richest countrys in the world can only muster (andy murrey) one player worth his salt! The rest i am affraid are below a standard that is clearly unacceptable.

Mind you... until the LTA gets rid of this "its where you come from and who you are?" attitude then britain will never be any good at tennis.

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comment by shivfan (U2435266)

posted Sep 19, 2008

Seriously, though, if not Bogdanovic, then who?

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posted Sep 19, 2008

josh goodall would be a better option as well, in fact just pick someone else who hasn't been bottling it for the past 6 years

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posted Sep 19, 2008

exactly mike and lets support Boggo when he meets a player the same level as him Peya ,Boggo 162 Peya 164 ..Keep an eye on 18 year old Daniel Evans up 600 places in the last couple of months to 592 atm and beaten in semi's today by Josh Goodall ,he seems to be improving fast hopefully start playing challengers soon instead of futures.

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posted Sep 19, 2008

And yet if he beats Peya on Sunday, there will be articles on here proclaiming him a national hero and demanding he be knighted <doh>

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posted Sep 19, 2008

Bogdanovic is the GOAT.

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posted Sep 19, 2008

good point on murray. The LTA ruine dJamie as an up an coming singles player so his mum sent him to spain.

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posted Sep 19, 2008

whatever happened to Jamie Baker? he qualified for the Australian Open and now he is nowhere and all the hype about Chris Eaton, where is he now? Bogdanovich is useless and is afarid of winning a set and into a second set tie-break against Melzer and he gives up....agreed I love this game but until we shake up this sport and spend money in the Inner cities we will only have Andy. The girls are doing better but only just.

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posted Sep 19, 2008

"Whatever happened to Jamie Baker? he qualified for the Australian Open and now he is nowhere and all the hype about Chris Eaton, where is he now? "

Jamie was very seriously ill at the start of this year, and is not yet back to full strength. Chris Eaton has won very few matches since Wimbledon.

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comment by TurboT (U12639815)

posted Sep 19, 2008

I know it is hypothetical. However I would have loved to have seen a Davis Cup team with Murray; Henman & Rusedski at their peaks.
For years we relied on Henman & Rusedski - now it is basically Andy Murray v Austria. Boggo isn't the answer and the only way forward is to be ruthless - dump him and bring in somebody younger with potential.

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posted Sep 20, 2008

GB is on the verge of having a decent enough doubles pairing (J. Murray & Hutchins) so that whilst Andy Murray is still going to be needed for singles, he shouldn't have to play 3 matches. We do need another singles player... Bogdanovic isn't going to make top 100 probably and top 50 certainly but he's best we've got now and willing to continue to turn out for us despite the ridicule he receives. Though I'd still have taken a chance on Eaton this weekend when a second singles victory always looked unlikely and would merely be a bonus and an insurance policy against calamity elsewhere!

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posted Sep 20, 2008

Some pretty harsh criticism of Boggo on here and other threads too. I mean did anyone actually expect him to beat an in-form opponent (who let's not forget was only 2 points away from beating GB's number 1 two weeks ago) ranked 120 places above him?? Most people didn't even expect him to take a set, so if anything he exceeded expectations.
Losing to a much better player in Melzer, in 4 sets, is hardly the worst defeat of his career, it's not even his worst loss in Davis Cup. Let's wait for the Peya rubber if it happens, that would be the match to judge him on.

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posted Sep 20, 2008

Face up to it: we just don't have a wealth of tennis players to call on when it comes to the Davis Cup. Bogdanavich represents the best outside chance of winning a rubber (not against Melzer though) at this moment in time and the others, whilst in OKish form, just aren't a safe enough bet. I would like to see the LTA actually investing some time & money in training some more "promising" up & coming players but their committment HAS to be 100% - Andy Murray is where he is because he has talent and is prepared to do the hard graft to make that talent tell. I think there are too many young players who have a nice easy life thanks to the LTA and they're not working hard enough to take that step up that's needed to get them into the top 100...

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posted Sep 20, 2008

If we are going to invest money, time and effort into a player it needs to be a young player with talent. Bogdanovic is the best of the rest in the rankings but he is not the most talented / brightest prospect. In the Davis Cup he has not performed well enough against even the people we expect him to beat so why not blood some youth and see how they get on?

He did do well against Melzer in the 1st and 2ns sets so for that we should credit him as that as it was never a game he should have won. However in the long run it does seem like a bottomless pit that the LTA are putting money into.

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comment by Red Fed (U9805245)

posted Sep 20, 2008

This is an age old problem which is occurring at county, club and national levels all the time.
Do you select the strongest player or potentially the strongest?
One can look at Boggos career as one of missed opportunities and relative failures. He has never reached his potential and has been given his chances time and time again. He is 24 years old and still aint made top 100.... so whats the chances he will. The Spanish would never have the same system in place where mediocrity is promoted. Spanish players lose all funding at 18... they are told that they have until 18 to start making a living out of the sport. For Boggo and other also-rans in the 200 to 1000 bracket are just trundling along travelling around trying to make a go of something which isnt going to happen.

I believe we have to set a date or age too.... maybe 21 where if you aint making a living out of the game then you will not recieve funding from our governing body. When you think that the likes of Boggo, Childs, Parmar, Hilton to name a few over the years have recieved thousands of pounds of coaching and matrix funding to travel around I think its an example of riding the gravy train. Then when they dont make it they recieve an almost guarenteed job with the LTA.

Lets not worry about Boggo and how he is being slagged off etc.... lets just remember that he will probably be in the pub on sunday night bragging to his mates about playin on court 1 at wimbledon...... something only the truely deserving should have the honour to do.

IF YOU HAVE NOT MADE THE TOP 15O BY THE TIME YOU ARE 21 THEN THE LTA WILL NOT FUND YOUR TENNIS WHATSOEVER.... ITS UP TO YOU.... Thats the incentive..... I know given that opportunity I would work my backside off.

Let the campaign role

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comment by Red Fed (U9805245)

posted Sep 20, 2008

Oh and i am sick of the excuse that our players mature later than other countries....... So Murray was 30 this week was he.... 21 and Grand Slam Finalist... What an excuse. Our players are nannied

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posted Sep 20, 2008

whether or not we want to pick the best team possible or potentially the best bogdanovic should not be picked.

He's a bottler on the big stage so there are players better suited for davis cup than him, eaton for example has actually beat decent players at big events even if he might not have the consistency yet.

boggo's best preformance was almost beating roddick. almost beating someone is a bit pointless if you can't produce the form against lesser players then win.

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posted Sep 20, 2008

ive got to agree with redhotbed.. clearly he isnt as good as murray but if you saw the first and part of the second set he played very well, in the end the difference in quality between the two players began to show as melzer found his form. in football this would be like a league one team playing a premiership team, and then someone going "ohmygod why didnt the league one team win?" lets be serious here, give him a break.

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posted Sep 20, 2008

I honestly do not care how far ahead "Boggo" is of the other players - he is a guarenteed loss for Britain.
He has shown himself time and time again to be mentally weak, unwilling to live and die for Britain and give up all too easily, both to better and worse ranked players.
I do not care if we have a player who is ranked 10,000 in the world, as long as he has the passion to win that is so obviously lacking in our current #2.
I would not blame A Murray to give up on the Davis Cup until we have someone who is at least willing to compete in the 2nd singles matches.
Harsh? yes, true? yes as well.

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posted Sep 20, 2008

Redhotbed,
the fact that you start by attacking someone with a differing opinion as you and name calling detracts from your arguements.
Boggo is slated because his results are poor - remember its not only high ranked people he has folded against, but players ranked substantially below him too. He has had his chance time and time again and failed, Id sooner see a 16 yr old play that has potential than someone who at 24, has not much of a future.

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posted Sep 20, 2008

Look, I really don't see the point of criticising a player like Bogdanovic. The fact is, some players just arent that good! Its not his fault that he is in our Davis cup team, and that the team isnt very good. Its the LTAs fault that there arent better players to replace him!

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posted Sep 20, 2008

@ Redhotbed

If you were a regular follower of British sport on the BBC website, you'd know that Caroline is as famous for her name as for her insightful and often hugely entertaining 'live text' hosting.

She pointed out that the outcome of Boggo's performance was unlikely to have been any different but laments the fact that his attitude had not improved since the 2006 match v Israel. He stopped trying once Melzer found his form, despite leading and with the crowd firmly on his side. If Ms Cheese had really wanted to stick the boot in, she could have pointed out that this lack of improvement comes despite Bogdanovic having spent the last year with access to one of the best coaches in the game.

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posted Sep 20, 2008

Very good points by SamprasFederer regarding Bogdanovic and his failure to make an impression on the upper echelons of the sport. There is something very wrong when a tennis associaton is still funding a 24-year-old who is clearly never going to make it in his or her sport. Even if the LTA isn't still funding Bogdanovic, the fact that he was picked yesterday shows the current lack of depth among singles players in Britain. 21 does seem like a good cut-off point if a player has not reached the top 100 by that age.

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comment by albert (U6379863)

posted Sep 20, 2008

this article is totally unfair on Bogdanovic.

Boggo has a lousy record at Wimbledon and the fact that he was picked to play at such a venue is more an indictment of john lloyd's leadership than boggo's qualities as a player.

secondly did anyone seriously expect boggo to beat someone 100 odd places ahead of him in ranking?

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comment by Greg (U1842552)

posted Sep 20, 2008

I am sorry, but Bogdanovitch always bottles it in the big games. Why Lloyd chose him, was probably because there isn't anyone else. It is time the LTA stop nannying these players and got to grips with producing more champions.

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comment by Wakey (U6640399)

posted Sep 20, 2008

I do actually think there is some truth in our players maturing later and its not just in Tennis either. Its a similar thing in the US too.

Its all to do with the priorities towards education. It is deemed vital by our society that education comes first, you have to finish school and are really expected to goto college/uni so their sporting education is slightly on the backburner. By the time they fully focus on it they are behind and its almost impossible to catch up. At least in America they have a strong high school and college sports setup which provides a relatively strong unlike ours.

Its no surprise that Murray went away to spain where priorities are different and put his tennis above anything else.

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