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posted Aug 23, 2008

It looks like a small person has escaped from the creche. Who left the play pen open?

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posted Aug 23, 2008

Hopefully he will do more than certain other gold medal winning boxers in recent years, i.e. fraudly.

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posted Aug 23, 2008

ignore him...

yeh degale was very good...good footwork and good counter attack work.
will be signed by warren most likely tho. was impressed by how he withstood the attack...got hit a fair few times pretty hard so chin doesnt look terrible. so theres hope.

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posted Aug 23, 2008

Please live up to your name & stay silent. Asassin! Great win this for Degale. The cuban bit him in the 1st round, so he must have thought he was up against it from the start. ongratulations James"De Gold"Degale!.okapplausebiggrin

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posted Aug 23, 2008

you dont win a middleweight gold medal by being a bum, massive achievment for degale this and i can only hope it leads to bigger things.

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posted Aug 23, 2008

BTW- <winkeyeCongratulations must also go to team USA, on winning the wooden spoon!.laughlaughlaugh

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posted Aug 23, 2008

Brilliant stuff. We have not had one boxer go through on a dodgy decision. Well done James-the winners can laugh the losers can please themselves mate. Just hope Egan can go all the way for the Irish lads-here's one Englishman cheering for you lads.

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posted Aug 23, 2008

what a terrible fight that was - shame there had to be a winner!

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posted Aug 23, 2008

How did that clown get to referee the final? He was simply atrocious. He had no control over the fight and let it descend into a brawl, failing to penalise the Cuban for twice wrestling Degale to the ground - but at least he spotted the bite!

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posted Aug 23, 2008

Teddy Atlas was very complimentary last night on DeGale and on the British corner - which he said was the best in the Olympics.

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posted Aug 23, 2008

I just posted this on the olympic site. http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A39983287

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posted Aug 23, 2008

I can't believe the Cuban wasn't penalised for repeated holding and throwing DeGale to the ground!! Not a great day for the Cubans with their Taekwando star kicking the ref in the head!!

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posted Aug 23, 2008

Do you think he will go pro, or wait till 2012?

the first 2 rounds were good but got a bit scrappy in the last 2 nearly got complacent in round 3 but he managed to do it, and he beat a Cuban!

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posted Aug 23, 2008

You can't knock a gold medal and praise be - but it was a poor fight as the styles didn't gel.

Kid has a good future ahead of him although I don't think he will have a pleasing style.

Looks like another michael Nunn type to me and if he has half the success of him then he'll do okay.

Another fight where both fighters scored more than the judges gave credit for - although the brit deserved his decision.

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posted Aug 23, 2008

He has done what Amir Khan failed to do but what Audley Harrison did!!

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posted Aug 23, 2008

Interesting that the BBC describes De Gale's fight as 'Bad tempered'

This does, by necessity, suggest there's such a thing as a 'Good tempered fight'

I wonder what that would be like?

BOSH.

British gentlemen delivers a hammer blow to foreign gentleman's solar plexus, resulting in acute muscle spasm and an inability to inhale normally.

"Gosh, awfully sorry old chap, nothing personal, it's just that Her Majesty gave us strict instructions to beat the living daylights out of you lazy beggars and remind you that regardless of how utterly ghastly our Prime Minister is, England is still the Custodian of civilisation.."

Actually, that's obviously a complete exaggeration because there isn't a boxer on earth who would know what custodian meant.

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comment by U11744208

posted Aug 23, 2008

are you people joking?

It was a farce of a battle. Clinging, wrestling, choking, throwing?

Go in for real fights if you gonna act like 2 monkeys

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posted Aug 24, 2008

I agree. I saw the bout. the Cuban was throwing the "brilliant" Degale like a ragdoll in the ring with his punches. All Dgale was doing was running away from him, hanging on him all the time. Daylight robbery. the Cuban is the real winner.

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posted Aug 24, 2008

The referee was disgraceful. The Cuban should have been slung out for the bite, never mind the rest of his antics.

Well done James DeGale for keeping his composure.

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posted Aug 24, 2008

I guess referee was sleeping! James did great job by giving the cuban the taste od his own medicine.

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posted Aug 24, 2008

Degale did well, deserved his gold wioth consistent good perfromances and i'm pleased for him. He has plenty of skill and a brunoesque personality that people might warm to in the pro's too. He'll need to learn to sit on his punches a bit and lose the slaps (though it hasn't harmed jc's career winkeye)

Not sure he's going to be good enough to make a real impression at the highest level though. Although Degale beat him fair and square, I give the irish lad who he beat in the quarters a better chance of going further as a pro.

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posted Aug 24, 2008

Yeah, I'm very pleased for DeGale getting gold but oh my word; what an awful fight!
How many times did they wrestle each other to the ground; it was a mess!

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posted Aug 26, 2008

first of all well done to degale!! another olympic gold medalist - and well deserved!! could he take that into the pro ranks?? i personally not too sure, i think he'd struggle. he was very good on the counter but didnt really show any power and i think against top pros he'd struggle - i hope im wrong, and he has time to learn but to break in to the middleweight division isnt going to be easy.

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posted Aug 26, 2008

Many of you on here are jokers. Who cares if the fight was messy. Degale won Gold , that is all that matters. He was the most impressive of all our boxers. The other two boxers where a joke to watch. Big Liverpool lump Price was seriously exposed it was comical by the Italian. As for Jefferies he typified English world renowned sore loser mentality. He was comprehensively beaten in the
semi-final. Great Olympics overall but the boxing scoring was dreadful. Most medal winners should not have got that far. Well done Degale, whatever your decision and your future aspirations you and Audley Harrison can proudly claim you won an Olympic gold medal.

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posted Aug 26, 2008

Degale has potential but isn't ready for the big pro bouts yet.

He definately should turn pro before 2012, not doing so is just daft, but he should wait for all the hoo haa to die down first.

If he goes Pro now he will get the Amir Khan treatment and people will be on his back for 3 years. Better he waits 18 months, improves his game and turns then with less fanfare. He can start training as a pro in the meantime, which will mean he steps up in weight at amateur level. Get to where he doesn't need 20 nobody opponents to learn from first.

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posted Aug 26, 2008

Galaxy-man - Just because I said the fight was a mess does not make me a joker. I was merely pointing out the quality of the fight. As I said in my post, I was very pleased at DeGale winning the gold medal.

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posted Aug 26, 2008

The funny thing is after seeing him in the past i felt that the three who got the medals were actually the least skilled boxers.If you watch the two Saunders Gavin and Murray, they all look like potential Pro successes but as has been shown you need a lot more than raw talent to win an Olympic medal. Self belief mental strength and the old testicular fortitude are just as important.

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posted Aug 26, 2008

They stop fights for nothing in the amatures, even at olympic level. Price was only momentaraly staggered when they stopped his fight. He had scored a few points of his own but the judges were HALF blind. They only saw his opponents blows. Did the Ity win the finale?
I am sure it was the same for the some of the other Brits too.
Did the Irish lad win gold too?

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posted Aug 26, 2008

I think Cammerelle would be a real hit in the pros. He has real sting to his punches and seems to have a good chin.The fact that he won both the Worlds and the Olympic gold shows he has pedigree and the right tools to be a potential World champ.He should turn pro now however so he doesnt miss the boat

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comment by fjsm33 (U10224003)

posted Aug 26, 2008

He has a really ugly left hand shot - one of the worst "chop/slap" shots I've seen. However, he's plainly going to turn pro. His choice is really whether to go the Frank Warren route - make a quick mint while being nicely protected, be a bit sensible with his money, live with the snide comments on 606 and from all the hacks and retire early, or to try and become a proper boxer get universal respect, work his nuts off and possibly fail.

With that left hand, I'd be tempted to go for the former

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comment by suren27 (U1737387)

posted Aug 26, 2008

Fair play to DeGale....he did really well, worked really hard and got a brilliant gold medal! But as others have said the left hand slap will not be effective in the pro arena, nor will his open stance. He gets caught too much on the ropes too so id hope that he sorts a few technical issues before turning pro. I would love to see him retain gold in 2012 then turn pro! That would be brilliant, but i cant see him turning down 1m, but fair play to him if he does.

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posted Aug 26, 2008

newlordatomic:- your funny mate. Price temporary staggered you say. He looked like he was seeing the stars. To be honest after all the hype about the British boxing team, I was expecting them to come back with at least 5 gold medals. Also what folly to think because yur a world chapion you automatically will be olympic champion,this is in reference to Gavin "bufoon cannot make weight".

If Degale turns pro lets see how he gets on.

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posted Aug 26, 2008

The Italian HW looked good but if he fought current WBC champion Nigerian Samuel Peter or Wk or David Haye he will get KO.

I must say very surprised to see Cuba with no gold medal in boxing.

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comment by T_J (U7725783)

posted Aug 26, 2008

I really don't get why he wouldn't turn pro. apart from the world championships, an olympic gold is pretty much the top prize in amateur boxing. What else is there to do? Plus he will probly get more interest and money from the general public if he turns pro now.

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posted Aug 26, 2008

With respect to what he should or shouldn't do. I think its pretty obvious what he should and almost certainly will do.

Cash in on his fame while he's a name and has some publicity. Now i'm no FW fan, but if he's being offered 1m to turn pro, he might as well fight a string of nobodies and take the cash. If he turns out to be good enough (i have my doubts) he'll eventually end up with a world title, even if its a wbo one to start with... so he'll get his dream and be well rewarded. If he's not good enough... he might as well be not good enough and financially secure than not good enough and skint.

He's not cuban... waiting for another 4 years to maybe win another gold might seem appealing right now, but when he looks at the maths, the only thing that makes sense is to take the money right now. It may not be there in the future.

It may not be that admirable, but what would you do?

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comment by Toe2Toe (U6288427)

posted Aug 26, 2008

James has won gold and should turn pro. He has to think about his financial future as well.

Good luck to the lad, he's done himself and the country proud.

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comment by JUVENN (U11184406)

posted Aug 26, 2008

He should turn pro.He will be 26 in 2012,if he turns pro then he will only be ready to fight for a world title when he is close to 30

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posted Aug 26, 2008

"Price was only momentarily staggered"

Funniest comment I've read on here for yonks, he was being absolutely caned, Cammarelle looks like he packs a hell of a smack and given the current state of the heavy's he could clean up, maybe some of the top top level (such as it is)would give him a struggle but you'd have to fancy his chances of a title shot in a few years.

Have to say none of the GB boxers looked that special including Degale, they looked every inch solid amateurs but none of them made me think they could really make an impact in the pro ranks.

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comment by Ray (U1655331)

posted Aug 26, 2008

Agree about Camarelle. He'e a quality amateur and has right attributes to make it in the pro's. He is 28 though, so if he does want to make a name for himself he has to move quick.

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posted Aug 26, 2008

Not often the case that everyone on a blog has same opinion but there is no doubt that:

Degale will turn pro now while his star is shining brightest and no one can blame him for this.

Degale wont last very long within the pro ranks where power is important given his pathetic left hand. even Calzhage throws harder than that!

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posted Aug 26, 2008

he did fantistically well but i believe that he should now turn Pro.

4 years is a long time and a lot can happen in that period, for some reason he may not make the team for London 2012, or he could be njured or fail to make the weight.

He has also achieved the highest acolade available to him in his current situation.

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posted Aug 26, 2008

He should turn pro, espcially for 1 Mill. But does that mean FW going to pay him 1 Mill to be a Fw fighter or does that means degale will earn a 1 mill deal over eg. 15 fights?

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posted Aug 26, 2008

Did Mario Kindelan retire after getting beaten by Khan in 2005 in Bolton?

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posted Aug 26, 2008

i think darren sutherland would beat james degale in the pro game as i think he is more suited to the pro game. sutherland is strong and has a very hard punch whereas de gale moves more and picks opponents off at range, be interesting to c wat happens tho

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posted Aug 27, 2008

He needs to take the money and run. Turn pro, fight a few easy opponents, rake in some more cash in endorsements and advertising and then retire. He's really not a very good fighter, he should understand this and keep himself safe because the division currently would eat him alive. I hope he makes an absolute fortne and enjoys the rest of his life outside of the ring.

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posted Aug 27, 2008

With the right trainer, he could be a decent talent. He's tall, a southpaw and a counterpuncher which doesn't make great box office. I think of Michael Carruth and wonder why he didn't get any further than he did, and a lot of it was down to being mismanaged.

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comment by deperer (U1960100)

posted Aug 27, 2008

DeGale should turn pro. Ironically warren should be his promoter as i think he would be perfect for him. Amir Khan on the other hand does not need Warren as Khan needs to set his sights higher.

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posted Aug 27, 2008

He wouldn't make it as a pro where you have to be aggressive and on the front foot. Running away and picking off weak couter-attack punches won't work. IMHO he was pretty ordinary, messy, but worked the scoring system well.

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