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posted Aug 24, 2008

i agree with more handball, it looks like a cheap to access sport. why oh why can't we see the final of the men's handball? how can we get people to play here if they don't see what fun it is!! badly done bbc!

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comment by Dig (U12661948)

posted Aug 24, 2008

hi i live in the south-east and i really wont to join a handball club could you give me some links please

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posted Aug 26, 2008

penalty surely

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posted Aug 26, 2008

Why is it that football fans who post in this forum don't have the brains to figure out that this is actually about another sport and why do they insist on it being a penalty when if a handball occurred in football then it would depend on where it happened before you could say it was a penalty or not.
Maybe they should learn about their own sport first before trying their pathetic attempts at being funny. Actually why don't I go cut off a leg now, might give me more of a laugh than this rubbish attempt.

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posted Aug 27, 2008

I am Norwegian, and handball is a major sport, not only in this country, but throughout Europe. I've been in the UK nearly 100 times, but rarely or never come across people who actually seem to know anything whatsoever about handball. I know you have your rugby and all that, but I've always found it pretty interesting how you've been able to be so ignorant about a sport which is very popular on the continent. In Germany, league games (indoor obviously) attract crowds of more than 15 000, and the best paid players in Germany and Spain make fortunes, albeit nowhere near what the best paid footballers earn. It's a great sport for entertainment and a suitable sport for television. I am very pleased to hear that BBC actually chose our ladies' match with Russia, which was viewed by probably a third of my country's population. Our women's team are hugely popular over here, and they pull big crowds whenever they perform, though league games are not quite in the same range.

I know you do have a national team in Britain, but it's one for the UK, not one separately for England, Scotland, Wales and so on, right?

Hope to see you make progress within it, though - good luck!

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posted Aug 27, 2008

Just a quick comment on one of the earlier posts:

You weren't given the men's final? Although my country, still Norway, are usually not among the top 10 in men's tournaments, I do very much prefer to watch men's handball over women's, because of the vast difference in pace and physique. Women's handball is pretty slow, but still they're rather skilled and do play some really entertaining stuff when it's top level. Among men, however, it is a totally awesome sport, with lots of tackling and body contact. I've always been a great football fan (I travel to England to watch games in the lower leagues twice or more often a year), but it's not daft having a soft spot for handball even still. Believe me - talk handball with anyone from Spain, Germany, France, Croatia, Serbia, Russia, Sweden, Denmark and the Czech - they'll gladly want some of your time.

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posted Aug 27, 2008

was it deliberate? or ball to hand?

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posted Aug 27, 2008

There are seperate England and Scotland teams mikemo, it's only GB for the World Championships or the Olympics. The EHF recognises the English and Scottish Handball Federations seperately. I've managed the England squad for the past few years at junior and senior level.

We've been around a fair bit in those years, and with club or country I've taken teams all over Europe, 22 overseas trips in all, although sadly not Norway. I have had a nice break in Oslo though, lovely when the fjord is frozen, beautiful...pricey, but beautiful....

There is a small but decicated handball community both north and south of the England /Scotland border.

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posted Aug 28, 2008

Cheers for your kind reply, lesdyxic.

I guess I was pretty ignorant in my previous posts; I should've known that there would be communities in Britain where handball is popular, and not based my understanding on the various people that I'd been in touch with about the subject.

What's it like being in charge of the England team? What kind of countries can you compete with evenly? What kind of crowds do you pull for internationals? Will it take a grandiose effort for you to raise your game so that you can cause an upset or two during the London Olympics in 2012, or is that too much of an asking? Pardon my French from time to time, but I hope you understand what I'm asking.

Do English club teams take part in European competitions? I know the Champins League level is sky high, but there are also other tournaments for teams finishing lower than the top berth in their respective leagues. Have English/British teams ever achieved any kind of results, even if it was only a one-off?

Do you manage both men and women? What brought you into handball? I guess that's a lot of questions, but feel free to answer as much as you want, if anything.

I don't like to brag too much about my country, because Norwegians tend to get quite big-headed about their scenic nature and all that, but yeah, I'm pretty happy where I am, and Oslo is indeed a decent city, even if it's one of the smallest capitals around. Maybe you'll bring a team this way within foreseeable future?

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posted Aug 29, 2008

Hi,

sorry not been online, and rushing now, will give you a full answer tomorrow.

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comment by U13236460

posted Sep 2, 2008

Sorry but I dont pay my license fee to watch handball.

Ridiculous sport.

Its a non-starter.

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posted Sep 3, 2008

Yeah, well I don't pay my license fee to watch Eastenders, Big Brother or the majority of TV which is pretty rubbish but some people do so we just have to live with it.

What amazes me is that so many people in Britain knock handball, say it's rubbish or in your words a "ridiculous sport" when they know sweet f.a. about the game. By saying that, I'm not knocking your opinions as we are all entitled to them but if you are going to slate a sport then at least tell us why you think it is ridiculous and why it should not be promoted more in this country when it is the second biggest team sport in Europe after football.
If we don't get a response, do I just assume that it is a matter of ignorance and that there is nothing wrong with handball at all, just the people who don't understand a sport just because it isn't big in Britain.

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comment by Rory (U11049794)

posted Sep 4, 2008

"I know you have your rugby and all that, but I've always found it pretty interesting how you've been able to be so ignorant about a sport which is very popular on the continent."

How are we ignorant? We just don't give a $h*t

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comment by U8635940

posted Sep 4, 2008

How are we ignorant? We just don't give a $h*t
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Please please tell me that comment is a joke.....laugh it has to be, doesnt it????

Never played the game nor watched much of it, whilst in germany as a kid I remember them loving the game, also I spend allot of time in Sweden and have watched it on TV there a few times, the scandanavians are big fans of the game too.

I tell you one thing Ive always wanted to give the game a go myself, I think thats the only way that I'd be more interested in watching it is by having the oportunity to play the game and im not aware of any teams local to my area.....

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posted Sep 4, 2008

"How are we ignorant? We just don't give a $h*t"

Rory, I would say that is a pretty ignorant comment.
Would you care to elaborate? Why do you not give a $h*t?

Btw - That's a serious question, are you up to giving a serious answer?

It's fair enough that everybody will have their own favourite sports, mines happens to be handball, but at the same time, I don't discard every other sport just because I happen to like one. That would be ignorant.

I think that many people in handball would aggree with me that it is not just our sport that is neglected by the media in Britain but all of the so called minority sports. England has a decent national basketball league, why don't we see any of their games on our national TV? The same could be said of track cycling which has given more World Champions than football ever has.
Despite the amount of money and interest that goes into elite level football, I would argue that grass roots football is on the same level as some of these minority sports when it comes to finance and media exposure. Without a good foundation in sports at grass roots level then the national sports teams will continue to be rubbish, part of the reason why there were no British teams in Switzerland and Austria earlier in the summer.

If you trully are into sports of any kind then you really should give a bit more than just a $h*t!!!

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comment by Rory (U11049794)

posted Sep 4, 2008

I know saying I dont give a $h*t sounds ignorant. However, just because you don't like something means you are ignorant.

Say you hate football. You wouldn't care who was top of the league, who got promoted etc. In other words, you don't give a $h*t about it. That does not make you ignorant.

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comment by U8635940

posted Sep 4, 2008

But Rory do you know any thing about the game, if you dont know anything yet you form a negative opinion then that my friend is "Ignorance". Fair play if you just dont like it after watching or playing etc.

I personally dont know allot about the game so therefore I am not in a position to judge ok

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posted Sep 5, 2008

Rory, following your logic then I assume that since you don't give a $h*t about handball then you must hate it, so let me ask the question, Why do you hate handball?

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posted Sep 5, 2008

Rory - btw, I'm not getting at you for having an opinion, everybody has them. What I am trying to find out is why people in Britain criticise handball as much as they do.

Give us reasons why you don't like the sport rather than just say you don't give a $h*t.

For example, I don't like cricket and I couldn't really care who is top of the league standings but I wouldn't go onto a forum about cricket and say I don't give a $h*t, that would be ignorant. I just wouldn't go onto a cricket forum.
There is a reason for that though, I find that a game that can last for hours each day and be played over 5 days yet still end in a draw if one team manages to still have one player left even if they are clearly getting hammered is a little bit dull, slow and boring. Given that they play 5 of these games to decide the overall winner just takes the piss.

I like sports where you turn up, play for an hour or 90 minutes (maybe with extra time and penalties) but you get a winner on the day and you wouldn't have to take a whole week off to watch a whole match, that's my reasons for not caring about cricket.

Anyway, the point is, what reason do you have for not caring about handball?

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comment by U8635940

posted Sep 6, 2008

Qaaqaaq80 reckon you sholuld leave rorry alone, its border line stalking this like laugh

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posted Sep 6, 2008

Lol ok.

I'll leave Rory alone now!!!
I guess that you'd probably gather that it bugs me a bit when people post negative comments without knowing what they are talking about or without giving reasons why they hold those opinions.

As somebody who is trying to help develop and promote the sport in Britain, I am genuinly interested in what people have to say about the game and try to learn from the points that they make but saying "it's not a real sport", "it's $h*t" or any other similar comments tells us nothing except that you are not into handball without telling us why.
It's only from knowing why that we can do something to change the perception of the sport in this country.

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comment by U8580274

posted Sep 9, 2008

More Handball on BBC?

How about NO

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posted Sep 10, 2008

comment by goldie_dsg (U8580274)
posted 20 Hours Ago

More Handball on BBC?

How about NO

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great comment, who here even knows what handball is?

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comment by U8635940

posted Sep 10, 2008


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great comment, who here even knows what handball is?
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mightyredscouser I understand you scousers have issues when it comes to intelligence, so i will explain to you as a non player/watcher of the sport ok

Handball is a game involving two teams playing each other, you have a court/pitch which is indoors, there are players on each team and the object is to score goals in the opisitions net. From my take its kinda of like football but using your hands instead of your feet, perhaps thats why they call it "handball" ok

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posted Sep 10, 2008

goldie - How about YES?
Why do you say No anyway?

Scouser - it was a pish comment and judging by the number of posts and comments that we got on here discussing the Olympic Handball tournament when it was on, there seems to be quite a lot of people who know what handball is.

Basogeordie - not all Scousers have intelligence problems, there are three handball clubs in Liverpool that I know of and there are a few more dotted all over the North-West.
I'd also say your take on the game just about sums it up!!!

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comment by U8635940

posted Sep 10, 2008

Qaaqaaq80 do you know of any clubs in the south east, essex region, not saying im gonna give it a blast, just intersted

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posted Sep 13, 2008

The coverage of handball on the BBC was refreshing. Nowadays minority sports such as this fail to get enough coverage but this was like a breath of fresh air. Norway's handball team impressed me the most with their innovative and dynamic attacking style, I look forward to seeing more handball on the BBC in the future.

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posted Sep 13, 2008

baso,

go to englandhandball.com and you will find a list of the national league clubs, any of whom I'm sure would welcome you down for a 'taster' session.

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