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The Open - day four

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posted Jul 20, 2008

This the day Greg Norman makes history and starts a cycle of the return of a aging Hero....

Norman in 2008 Beckham in World cup 2010 Chambers in the Olympics 2012

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comment by Dave (U12705122)

posted Jul 20, 2008

This is going to be a great days golf.. as for a winner I hope Choi can do it, my dark horses coming from behind are Poulter and Khan. To be honest whoever wins will have deserved it, its been tough and yet fascinating to watch the struggles.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

A great sight upon arriving at birkdale, a six foot bengal tiger (not real) with a bandage on its knee, an equally large shark with a huge grin on its face what a sight, check it out its next door to the famous round house at the entrance to birkdale, somebody has to take Greg up to see it.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Is Norman 2 over as stated on the leaderboard or 3 over as stated in the start of the live text updates????
Either way this is going to be a fascinating day, think we might be quiet at the driving range this afternoon giving me plenty of time to tune in and watch the drama unfold.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

dnt no if it wud be the greatest acheievement in modern golf is an exaggeration, i think it has been good fo this years open that tiger hasn't been here even though he may have struggled just as much in the conditions (but probably not) I hope the whole weekend can b e capitalised with a playoff again! come on KJ!!!

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comment by Julianc (U916086)

posted Jul 20, 2008

Graeme Storm - just six shots off the lead and played very solidly all week, yet still 80-1 to win it - considering the weather, he's got to be worth a punt! :-)

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Whoever wins it will have earned it. The names in contention are fascinating. Established major champions like Harrington, Furyk and Goosen. Europeans like Fisher, Garcia and Poulter waiting for their chance. Young guns like Villegas and Kim. Also Claret Jug junkies like Lehman, Hamilton, Curtis and Leonard coming back for another shot at the title.
Personally, I think Mike Weir has a good chance to set a challenging clubhouse mark. A Choi win would increase my bank balance by 3 figures, but if I had to imagine an ideal scenario it would be a play off between Greg Norman and Chris Wood. That would bring true romance to sport.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

today will be padraig harringtons.no doubt,two in a row.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Whos my money on? We'll as I said on Thursday and Yesterday, I have a tenner each way on Chris Wood at 1001/1, the good news is he needs a top six finish for me to get my each way bet!

If your a friend/family member of Chris and reading this, tell him I said 'C'mon Chris!'.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

99.9% of Northern Ireland's population pronounce the name McDowell correctly. When will those employed by the BBC and in particular Maureen Madill get the message ?

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Right, away out for a walk, get thr morning paper and rolls then prepare to sit down and watch the final day. Never been this enthusiastic about the final day since, oh, a good 12 months ago for the last one!! God I love this competition. Plenty of twists and turns lie ahead. I just hope the Shark can maintain his good form and not collapse, that would be a shame.

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comment by Ryan86 (U1292790)

posted Jul 20, 2008

Put money on Monty finishing T42. Since 2005 he's either missed the cut, T42 or 2nd, and 2nd is probably just a little bit too much to ask of the big man.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

quite fancy stenson to come thru with harrington 2nd

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posted Jul 20, 2008

I'd love to see Norman win, but then I'm older than he is. So, no answers, but a question; when was the last time there were 5 English players in the leading 15 of the Open Championship?

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comment by starrey (U2900624)

posted Jul 20, 2008

You should never underestimate the injured golfer "Beware the injured golfer" is the saying and Padraig has a so called injured wrist, I wouldn't like to play Birkdale in the recent conditions with a blister on my thumb, let alone a sprained wrist - he'll win it in a play off with Choi

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Sorry ROCKFMBUS, but Chambers a hero? Don't think so. He has not done anything with his life that could be called heroic.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

I think its fair to say whoever win deserves it whether they be a senior, injured golfer or even a complete nobody who comes from nowhere a la Paul Lawrie. Real cliche but dont you think golf and this great championship has been the real winner? Theres been hardly any mention of you know who and still this will go down as one of the greatest Opens of modern times with it hopefully going right down to the wire.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

I would rather have Greg or KJ win as they are both more worthy than Harringotn who has won it last year,

ideally i would like KJ to win but i will be Happy if either win

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posted Jul 20, 2008

explain why harrington is less "worthy" than KJ or Norman ??

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Much as I would like to see Greg win, I have a feeling that someone starting well before 1200 could well do so. However, the BBC broadcast does not start until then. I hope that unlike yesterday we will not then have a retired footballer and his guests, who are far too fond of their own voices, giving us the benefit of their opinions when all we want to do is watch the golf. The commentatators are already there (as seen on Freeview). So please. programme director, let us see as much actual golf as possible!

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Monty should sit and have a long talk to himself!
Greg has been 1st class this week. A great attitude and a gentleman.
Monty, with his attitude, will never win a major

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posted Jul 20, 2008

the open comentary team try to build a massive gap between amateur and the elite golfer,always making excusses.i have never seen such poor golf on tv.the course looks ordinary,unless you miss a green by 40 yards,takes some doing with a wedge but they do it.theirs no out of bounds,no meandering streams.the 3rd cut of rough is always miss leading at a links course if you go wider than that its trampled down.the greens are the main factor here probabley to brutal and some of the pin positions are silly.the problem with links courses they look tougher untill you actually play them.the flags do look further away its an optical elusion.i played carnoustie last year its a doddle.and for the weather according to the beafort scale wind at 20-25mph is no5 and described as a fresh breeze.listning to ken brown and co its gales.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

I got up this morning thinking that as the golf teeed off at 7.30 the good old beeb would have coverage from the start online oby BBCi Oh how disappointted I was. I will have to wait until 11am for coverage to start. Surely in an event as crucial as this and as eagerly awaited coverage could have started from the off on the interactive service?

However it is not to be but my heart is torn between cheering on Padriag as top European and current champion. Or cheering on Greg as sticking one to the so called Champions in waiting as showing that an old boy can still cut it. Then again we still have probably the 2nd best golfer behind Tiger with a change on winning? Today could be Poulters chance to actually step up top the plate and show if he can really cut it? So many choices and possible winners I just hope another European wins it.

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comment by Rogin (U12684016)

posted Jul 20, 2008

Regarding the last time 5 English players finished in the top 15 of an Open - I think you have to go right back to 1969, the year Tony Jacklin won. Neil Coles, Guy Wosltenholme and Tommy Horton all also finished in the top 15, as well as a certain Peter Alliss, who shot a 66 in the final round. There were only 12 American pros in the field that year, though!

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Norman will wing it all the way. He's using his heart and not his head.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Great on you Justin,just what you needed after yesterday.It proves that with good weather(well not as bad as yesterday) you can do it and just hope you will not lose your Ryder Cup place as some papers mention.So far you may end up with a good 4th round score.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

re:07:42 - How did Michael Lyon get on?

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posted Jul 20, 2008

"THE GLOWERING INFERNO" title has been awarded to who ?
<grr>

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comment by 335BMW (U7617328)

posted Jul 20, 2008

I think Greg will carry this through, he looked fit after his round yesterday when many said they were exhausted. Some talk of him choking, his 4 iron to the 72nd in 1986 at the Masters and the massive lead he lost to Faldo in 1996 - were not good signs but he is a different man now and has been for a while - he became a very good finisher in his later tournaments and I don't expect any different here. Norman by 3 from Harrington and Choi.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

So far the scoring seems good today, does that mean the conditions are better than previous days or have the R&A set the course up a little easier so we have a good birdie blitz today??

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comment by WalshK (U9618207)

posted Jul 20, 2008

A lot has been made on these boards about how Greg is gonna choke yet again.

I just don't think he will.

He's having fun out there, he's enjoying it.....

But in theory he shouldn't be in this position with

1) The lack of competive golf he's played this year.

2) He hasn't been near a leaderboard in a non-senior tournament for a very long time.

The wonderful thing about The Open is it isn't about overpowering courses with massive drives and wedge apprach shots.

You have to be creative.

You have to be smart.

And i really want Greg to win this.

I'm an Englishman, and i'd prob get slated for this, but if he was in a 4 way play-off with Poulter, Fisher and Wakefield..... I'd STILL want Greg to win

Theres Life in the Old Shark Yet!!!

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Nomran is going to choke. He is due a bad round and as ususal it's going to be on Sunday. KJ for the win!

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Why no mention of Simon Wakefield in all the "who will win chat" among the BBC chaps? And why was he not a choice in the on-line poll?

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posted Jul 20, 2008

If Greg wins, good for him, however, just shows that all these other golfers are useless, no wonder why Tiger is numer one for so long. This Greg chap is pre-historic... but he is beating them Phil Micks....geez

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posted Jul 20, 2008


Here we go Nicklaus moaning again about players getting too much money. Pure jealousy! I'm sick of listening to him going on all the time. I never saw the other greats and real gentlemen like Byron, Palmer et al moan like him.

Before he questions the heart and desire of pro's. How about he looking closer to home and explain why his son was a complete failure on tour.

Too much of dads money? No enough desire? Jack needs to keep his trap shut.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

I'd love Norman to hold it together and win, he really deserves it, but if not i'd like to see Poulter to have a stormer and be in contention by the end of the day. As for Tiger, he had a shocker in these conditions when Els won at Muirfield, so would he be up there?.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

If a 53 year old wins today can we stop the Gary Player adage crap that being able to do 250 or whatever it is sit ups a day is essential to become a champion. Greg apparently has cut down on his playing and practice (the latter being another of the mad obsessed little South African's quirks) and his physical capacity and strength must have have waned a bit at 53. No its all down to the love of a good woman, Chris Evert who has been through men like Vanessa Feltz has got through chocolate and cream cakes. Seriously though, most importantly, its what goes on between the ears. There are plenty of great shotmakers out there but the greatest ability that the champions like Harrington and above all Woods have is their mental approach and strength. Now, Norman has been relaxed putting no pressure on himself for three rounds. Can he continue in this vein as the victory tape approaches or will he resort to type and blow up as the pressure increases. Maybe a session with Chris one hour before going out will relax him, who knows?

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Any chance of the BBC showing some actual golf rather than Lineker, Faldo et al waffling on?

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Couldn't agree more - please get to the golf. And by the way the new guy on the range is not a patch on Dougie Donnelly.

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comment by roakey (U3990235)

posted Jul 20, 2008

no leaderboard today- whats going on?

i am not undervaluing the open or norman with this statement!

but

'the open' relies on luck more than any other major, in fact all links golf does!

the field isnt weak and if tiger had got an unlucky draw,there is no reson why anyone would suggest he would be ripping the field up! which was so eveident this time around(the starting half made only about a quarter of the cut)

the open pulls up weak winners on more occasions than any other major!

but this is also adds to the drama of the open-

and of course the weather is gonna be the same for the leading players in the final couple of rounds- the winner still needs bottle!

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posted Jul 20, 2008

where is the live golf? while all this interviewing stuff might be interesting to the golf enthusiast I'm not a player nor ever will be;I tune into all the big events to watch I.e. augusta so when the programme starts and we get an hour of Gary Linekar well who are they to complain when A.B.C. only show limited coverage of the masters

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Can someone at the BBC please tell me why, when you go interactive, do they put the "MENU" option at the top right of the screen which then means it blocks out the players score when that's flashed up on the tv. 4 days this has been the case, I've finally snapped!!

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Hear! Hear ! Most people turn on to WATCH live golf

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Live golf thro red button on SKY, I've no complaints other thant he MENU option!! Grrrrr, how can I get that off??

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comment by roakey (U3990235)

posted Jul 20, 2008

leaderboard and 16 17 18 is on now

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Come on BBC enough with all the trivial interviews!! Show us some golf!!

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comment by roakey (U3990235)

posted Jul 20, 2008

whats the menu option thingy??

i have freeview

and dont go into interactive, i just press 301 or 302

which is the channels that the interactive takes you too anyway

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posted Jul 20, 2008

agree with a lot of the posts on here - i know you pay Lineker a small fortune to present this programme but how about actually showing some play, i realise it seems a crazy idea but might be worht a shot don't you think?! otherwise bill this part of the show as the build up and then say when the live golf will actually start!

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posted Jul 20, 2008

Freeview only has one red button option thing I think, SKY has more. Try red button thro bbc2 then select for golf then see what options it gives you.

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posted Jul 20, 2008

65 minutes and the waffle goes on and on and on.

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