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posted Jun 21, 2008

You have got to be joking, Aussie.

Given Federer's form this year and the improvements of a number of players this will be one of his most difficult tournaments ever.

There is a heck of a lot riding on it - some would say his future as #1 and the pressure of 6 in a row wont help either.

If - and its a big if - Fed finally triumphs it will arguably be his greatest victory.

Cakewalk it certainly is not.

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comment by richoho (U6925786)

posted Jun 21, 2008

What pressure of 6 in a row?

The pressure was last year - 5 in a row to equal the great Borg, hence his at times tentative performance. Even if he doesn't win it this year, his place as one of the greatest, and arguably the greatest Wimbledon champion is secure. There is still pressure, but not as much now.

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posted Jun 21, 2008

Hey! Isnt this the guy who posted this delusional post before the FO:

"for Federer to be crowned the GOAT after trashing Nadal and capturing his Maiden French title and a chance to do a career slam.

I see ths happenning very much. He might be a long shot to beat Nadal, but this is his chance, a big chance to prove his detractors wrong, Federer at the beginning of this year said he wants a decade of dominance, what a better way to start that dominance. He has got nothing to lose, no ranking points to lose whatsoever, no pressure, all the pressure is on Nadal to equal Borg's record.

Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls, nothing is going to stop Federer from beating Nadal today, not even an injury. Match is only 5 1/2 hours away from beginning, and it will be a classic for Federer fans. Nadal fans, start thinking of excuses."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A37024634

This is the most dreamer of all Fed worshippers in the board.
He absolutely has no credibility.
If I were him,after Fed "thrashed" Rafa in FO final,I wudnt dare to post here at all.
But I understand he continues to,being such a desperate dreamer,full of illusions.<laugh> <laugh> <laugh>

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posted Jun 21, 2008

seriously aussie this will be fed's toughest defense of the wimbledon title thus far if he gets to the semis novak is waiting and if he wins that probably nadal in the final. its going to be really tough and i really think he'll be lucky to reach the fianl let alone win it

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posted Jun 21, 2008

What pressure of 6 in a row?
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Richoho

Last year Fed equalled Borg's 5' this year he could beat it making an all time consecutive record and just one shy of Sampras's total record.

Add the total slams record and his #1 spot.

Looks like pressure to me .

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posted Jun 21, 2008

BTW richoho

I'm not doubting his record to date - but those last important ones are going to be the toughest to achieve

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posted Jun 21, 2008

Duggietoo,

Rafa won comfortably in FO despite the pressure of equalling Borg's record.
And Fed is supposed to be more experienced than the younger Nadal.
So,that should not be brought as an excuse when Fed loses.;)

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posted Jun 21, 2008

I agree with the OP.

Apart from the crushing defeat in the FO open (for which Nadal was 2/7 favourite)final, I don't see that Fed has done much wrong. I write off the AO as he clearly wasn't healthy at the time

The guy has been criticised for not matching his own outstanding performances in 2006 and 2007. No other player has won those 3 slams in successive years if I remember the stats correctly so it is no surprise to me that he hasnt reproduced that level...hard to do.

He has still reached a semi and a final in the 2 GS so far. Has won 59 straight matches and 5 SW19s in a row. It will never be 'easy' to win a GS but Fed is much better than the field on grass and will be long odds on favourite for every match in my mind....even against Djoko and Nadal.

For me, Federers serve on grass is what makes the difference. He is by far the best server and is extremely hard to break. I dont expect him to drop more than 2 or possibly 3 sets on the way to winning his 6th wimbledon.

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posted Jun 21, 2008

Stephane

Dont disagree with what you say and as you see I disagree with the article.

I feel that Fed is at a crossroads in his career and for both he and Nadal the pressure must increase as they chalk up consecutive victories.

There will be a lot of pressure on Rafa next year to "beat" the clay record.

At the end of the day experience helps but it comes down to form on the day.

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posted Jun 21, 2008

no way. i agree with duggietoo. i'm not sure if he can cope with that pressure. especially if the final is fed vs nadal then rafa will have a psychological edge over him after demolishing him in RG.

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comment by sheltec (U7618410)

posted Jun 21, 2008

and just to add Duggietoo, Nadal has been too dominant on clay all season so it came easily at the end.

Its a little different on Grass and with Federer this year. Nadal has definitely improved on grass and I wouldnt have believed that had he not defeated Djokovic at Queens. Djokovic is in Federers half which would have already started playing in his mind. Last year, although he came into wimbledon losing to Rafa in the finals and he even skipped Halle but this year, it was a drubbing. He also couldnt defend his AO title and he has lost to anonymous players.

Furthermore no one is giving him chance this year either, all those so called pundits. Even Borg said Federer is his third favorite (although I would rather believe Sampras). Interesetingly an early defeat could also cost him his ranking he so dearly loves. Federer has a point to prove. He has to prove that he is still alive and he knows that this is the place. This is like his home for 5 years and he knows that if he fails here, the stories of his demise would be multiplied by 10 or even more. Now keeping all this in mind, add the fact that he will be going to break a greats record and will be a slam closer to another greats record (of course if he wins the title), you would yourself see a lots of lots of pressure.

Pressure is definitely there and it makes you do crazy things.

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posted Jun 21, 2008

sheltec (U7618410)

Now keeping all this in mind, add the fact that he will be going to break a greats record and will be a slam closer to another greats record (of course if he wins the title), you would yourself see a lots of lots of pressure.
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Cant agree more<ok>.

If Roger can win this wimbledon and US open he will get back his dominance mentally over other players specially the supremely confident young champ Novak.

I remember on of BBC correspondent reporting before the match between Roger and Novak,and he said Federer was very tensed up and didnot look like Federer.

Certainly one thing for sure something is playing in his mind which is preventing him play like him, may be the following reasons

1]Coming close to Pete's record he is feeling the tenision and starting to doubt himself whether he can break it or not.

2]he fears about losing No.1 postion to Rafa or Novak

3]He now fears failure and worried what press gonna write about him.

4]Youngsters stealing his spotlight.

This gonna be very tricky year for Roger,more than his opponents he has to combat with his own physcology, thats why he needs a good coach to keep him relaxed and work hard like he use to do.

Borg had a similar tricky year and after repeated failure to Mcenroe he didnt have in it him to come back and fight to win somemore.
The problems with the legends is that they are not used to failures and when they do they find it difficult to handle.

Roger in FO final specially in the Final set had no interest in fighting the match out, yes he gonna lose even had he claimed the 3rd set somehow, but the thingy about champs is the fighting quality and Roger for the moment missing that in his armoury due to various pressures listed above.

This wimbledon is good for him, if he can beat Novak and Rafa to claim the title it would make him believe in himself back, otherwise it may e the test of nerves.

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posted Jun 21, 2008

Strangely I think I can imagine Federer feeling pretty relaxed going into Wimbledon. I could see him having the sensation of 'coming home' and looking forward to it. He is a great champion and should have no fear... and that's what your'e talking about. Pressure turning into fear turning into failure to perform ... and am super confident that he won't be feeling any fear.

I'm sure he probably wont play any spectacular tennis in the early rounds rather he'll just efficiently dismiss his opponents until the semi. Then it's all up for grabs if Djoko makes it that far too. Very exciting stuff

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posted Jun 21, 2008

I'm sure he probably wont play any spectacular tennis in the early rounds rather he'll just efficiently dismiss his opponents until the semi. Then it's all up for grabs if Djoko makes it that far too. Very exciting stuff
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yes same thought <ok>

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comment by Maximus (U2614568)

posted Jun 21, 2008

To the "two-weeks a year tennis fans" anything less than placing federer as a firm favourite would be absurd, but to knowledgeable tennis members this is clearly not the case. Last year Federer had to throw the kitchen sink and more to defeat Nadal in that 5th set final and that is when he was even playing well, this year his form has dipped remarkably. He has been losing to journeymen like Mardy Fish, dropping sets to players in grandslams you would never have imagined him to do so at his best, he has only won two titles this year of questionnable significance and was comprehensively thrashed and humiliated by his arch rival and nemesis in the French Open Final. And to even compound his problems Nadal actually seems to have gotten better and then of course there is a new contender on the block, Novak Djokovic.

Given all these factors his chances at wimbledon do not look as favourable as they have in the previous years. I guess if he were to lose his wimbledon title, it would be an incredible upset given his dominance at wimbledon, but in the context of what has happened this year it wouldn't really come as a shock to knowledgeable tennis fans.

However, I feel that if Federer is to ever re-assert his dominance at the top of the game he has to do it in this wimbledon and what better way to do it than defeat Djokovic and Nadal in successive matches (imo unlikely). Otherwise if he loses this one I honeslty can not see him winning another slam or breaking Sampras's record of 14 slams.

The question I would like to ask Federer fans is that if Federer had not won wimbledon 5 times already and let's say had won it just once, given the form he has been in this year and all the other factors already mentioned, could you honestly see him retaining his wimbledon title ?

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posted Jun 21, 2008

If we're going to get hypothetical did Nadal go 9 months recently without winning a title? Would you have predicated his current brilliant form on that ? And didn't Djoko pathetically throw in the towel against Rog in Monte Carlo this year and lose to granpa Moya in US last year (Cincinati?). Because Rog has slipped from his UNPRECEDENTED domination of the game people are writing him off - ridiculous!

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comment by sheltec (U7618410)

posted Jun 21, 2008

"The question I would like to ask Federer fans is that if Federer had not won wimbledon 5 times already and let's say had won it just once, given the form he has been in this year and all the other factors already mentioned, could you honestly see him retaining his wimbledon title ?"

His 5 years undefeated run can not be ignored. That is exactly why everyone is saying its his home. So I think that question is kind of irrelevant.

On current form, I agree that Nadal would be the favorite and to be honest with you, I rate his Queens victory against Djokovic more significant than his FO demolition of Federer. (Of course, to judge his form for Wimbledon. Otherwise a record equaling Slam vicotry can not be compared to an ATP event victory). So an excellent clay court season follwoed by an excellent victory on Grass where he conquered everyone but Federer. Thats the positive side of things.

But there are other things to consider too. How many times we have seen this happen already that Nadal comes on the back of an amazing clay court season, people tip him to win wimbledon, take over as world number 1, he backs it with reaching wimbledon final and then disappears until the next clay court season. He knows for sure that Wimbledon is best chance outside of RG to win a slam on another surface because hard court is not his surface. Yes he will get to the later stages of a few tournaments but there are many players who can thrash him. Nalbandian thrashed him last year in AMS. Djokovic did that. Ferrer defeated him staright sets in USO. Federer easily defeated him in Master Series cup. Youzhny killed him in Chennai. Tsonga thrashed him in AO. He lost to Roddick, davydenko, almost everyone. So he knows for sure that Wimbledon is important for him too, not just for Federer. Nadal too has a point to prove and that is that he is not a one trick pony. He is not a one surface player and he knows that this year is his best chance for all the reasons mentioned in various posts.

At Queens, he had done tremendously well to defeat Roddick and Djokovic in semis and finals but he lost a set to Karlovic and that other guy I dont remember the name. So any surface other than clay, he is vulnerable. Youzhny, Gulbis, Murray, Stepanek can all be dangerous for him.

Another important thing for Federer to consider is his match against him in Hamburg. He pushed Nadal and lost only because of that mental lapse. Im sure Federer would be better off on Grass (no matter how fast pace the hamburg clay is) and Nadal would be worse off on grass.

and finally Nadal would be under a lot of pressure because every one is tipping him to win this year. Nadal going into a tournament other than clay as favorite is a strange thing, even for Nadal himself. and as I said earlier, Pressure can make you do crazy things. I know Nadal is good at handling pressure but guess what, its not clay anymore.

Im not predicting but just have a feeling that Nadal would fail to make the final this year. Its not easy for Federer and Djokovic either but I think they will both make it to the semis.

Lets see how the tournament unfolds. Who knows it has more surprises that anyone of us can imagine.



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posted Jun 21, 2008

I believe that those people who are writing off federer are crazy. he's a five time champion. I'm not writing him off. I just don't believe he'll win wimbledon this year. The year started of badly and he hasn't recovered fully to his expectations. And in nadal this year he's found an opponent who has just simply been better this year against him, besides most players would love to have fed's record this year

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posted Jun 21, 2008

well the Betfair market has Fed at 2.2 ish (11/10) and Nadal at 3.4/3.5 (5/2 ish)...

so Fed is the favourite in the betting. Doesnt actually mean anything but was just pointing out who the fav is

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posted Jun 23, 2008

I think we're in for an interesting Wimbledon and predict that it'll be Federer against Nadal in the final. Pity Djokovic wasn't in the other half, because I'd have loved to see a Federer - Djokovic final.

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comment by Nomsky (U12453280)

posted Jun 23, 2008

I'm still reeling at the cardigan donned by Mr Fed, he's such a class act. Well, jokes aside, its time to dispatch his first scalp of the fortnight!

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posted Jun 23, 2008

I fear Sir Tom Fordyce's commentary may prove too colourful for some again but loving it so far.

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posted Jun 23, 2008

Surely if we're going to invent a football style nickname for Dom it ought to be Hrbaty-y, no?

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posted Jun 23, 2008

BBC Flash player for the Federer match is constantly buffering making it totally unwatchable. Why can't the BBC offer more than one option for online video players? If Flash doesn't work...you're sunk! <steam>

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posted Jun 23, 2008

I'm a bit of a traditionist and think it looks great to see everybody in white kit, especially set against the grass. Serena came on in a white mac!! After last years weather who can blame her.

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posted Jun 23, 2008

"Otherwise if he loses this one I honeslty can not see him winning another slam or breaking Sampras's record of 14 slams"

HAHAHAHA. Yes....getting to the semi's despite a serious undiagnosed illness in the AO and losing IN THE FINAL at RG is evidence he no longer has what it takes to win another Grand Slam!!!

"The question I would like to ask Federer fans is that if Federer had not won wimbledon 5 times already and let's say had won it just once, given the form he has been in this year and all the other factors already mentioned, could you honestly see him retaining his wimbledon title ?"

Gets better......Answer....yes. Lets not stop with the ifs and buts there though. What if Nadal hadn't thrashed him at RG a fortnight ago or had he not been ill for so long at the start of the year would people keep posting pointless comments like this?

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posted Jun 23, 2008

love the new scoreboard , it does Rolex proud. Swiss aswell you know ...

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comment by Nomsky (U12453280)

posted Jun 23, 2008

I second that, the commentary is fantabulous!

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comment by olching (U2092342)

posted Jun 23, 2008

Who exactly is 'Hrbats'? Is it a joke I don't get?

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posted Jun 23, 2008

Unlikely name match up No1 in a series of....
Womens singles
Pin (Fra) V Zahlavova-Strycova (CHZ)

Wonderful!

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comment by Nomsky (U12453280)

posted Jun 23, 2008

Well at least the Dom is on centre court, although i'm not too sure if he's actually enjoying it or is embarrassed about it. One can only wonder :-/

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comment by beardash (U628948)

posted Jun 23, 2008

Roger, at the end of the day, you are the McDaddie. 6 love 3rd set methinks.

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posted Jun 23, 2008

Whatever happenend to the arm wrestling match v the Safin clan?!

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posted Jun 23, 2008

On the subject of celebrity spotting, whilst working as a security guard at Wimbledon one year I met Steffi Graf's stalker...he was quite chatty and very knowledgeable about ladies tennis.

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posted Jun 23, 2008

Federer 4-1 Hrbaty
Another Hrbaty service game, another break. He's now wearing the facial expression of a man who's just walked into a sliding patio door.

My mother in law did that to a patio door once, and she wasn't amused by the immediate burst-out-laughing expression on my face

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posted Jun 23, 2008

Federer looked immense in that match.

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comment by ADSM (U9519094)

posted Jun 23, 2008

Mr Fordyce- I believe one cocks a 'snook' rather than a 'snoop'

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posted Jun 23, 2008

Come on Ana

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posted Jun 23, 2008

Federer will prove all this so called tennis pundits wrong, he is still streets ahead of everyone on grass, including Nadal,people say just because Nadal took him to 5 sets last year it means he is closing the gap, well they are very wrong,it was during all that pressure that he went on a champions run winning 21 of 24 consecutive points,they forget that, i respect Nadal and admire him alot but even he knows that Federer remains better than him on grass.60 consecutive match wins on the surface losing just 16 sets in those 60 matches and the highest number of times he has been broken on grass is 4 times, the statistics don't lie.

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posted Jun 23, 2008

No, we didn't learn anything. Federer should be viewed as the overwhelming favourite for SW19. Nadal is as awesome on clay as Federer is on grass - and on the hard courts of the US and Australia for that matter - but he has a long way to go if he is to challenge Federer. He's only just begun to compete on the grass.

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posted Jun 23, 2008

I don't think we learnt much from that really. Federer looked fine, but Hrbaty was never that comfortable on grass in his prime let alone before his many injury woes - and he turned up here having really only played on clay this year. The next round will be more revealing.

But I just don't think Federer looks like he has that mental belief in himself at the moment. He was always at his best as a front runner - which is where he so often found himself. I can't help wondering if we won't see Federer really back to form until he actually loses the no.1 position and the continual pressure that goes with all the talk on "when's he going to lose it".

I noticed his remark about Nadal and Djokovic earlier on their consistency - and that is exactly what seems to be the difference at the moment. I certainly would put my money on Nadal this year, and think it may well be Djokovic in the final with him. And I'm not being anti-Federer, as I still see him as the best tennis player I've watched - but right now he is just not quite as sharp as he was for some reason.

By the way - what's with the Phillips Odowu jumping masterclass at the foot of the tennis homepage? Is this how the BBC suggest that the champion trains for his Pat Cash moment at the end - triple jump into the crowd?

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posted Jun 23, 2008

We learned nothing from today. We knew the outcome of the match before it was played.

What we know still is that Fed is the favourite for the title.

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posted Jun 23, 2008

I can't believe nobody's mentioned it - irrespective of his game what the hell is going on with RF's dress sense. I thought the blazer and velcro flannles were bad last year but that cardigan is just HIDEOUS.

I hope Rafa beats him just for wearing that jumper.

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comment by RT2709 (U6745842)

posted Jun 23, 2008

Baston_D_Belfry, ur sooo funny <laugh> I can't agree w/ u more regarding to Fed's recent form and the chance of winning Wimbledon for the 6th time. As much as I wish him to win again, I sensed his dis-belief (or shaky self-confidence, shall we say) more or less when talking abt Nadal and Djokovic. He must strongly hold his self-belief!! Btw, I can't wait to see the comedy comment when Hrbaty went 2 sit next 2 Roger in the third set <biggrin>

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comment by RT2709 (U6745842)

posted Jun 23, 2008

What'z wrong w/ the Cardigan? I think that it's far better than last years blazer.

I actually quite like the idea of borrowing a little bit of vintage stuff, something different, something wacky. Com'n, It's FUN!!! <cool> <applause>

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posted Jun 23, 2008

60 games undefeated on grass and still people doubt his ability to win wimbledon this year. Year after year, Nadal is winning the French Open and it never makes a difference when they move over to the grass surfaces. King Roger is going to wipe the floor with nadal and all the others and I am going to enjoy every minute of it.

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posted Jun 23, 2008

Don't get me wrong I think that the linejudges retro kit is top draw - but I think the Blaker and the cardigan are truely naff and the worst thing are those silly polyester flannels with the velcro sides to them - very chavy

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posted Jun 23, 2008

I'm am massive Federer fan but am I the only one who sees things differently. He just seems to of lost his mojo at present even after this win. I would say that he is far from playing his best although I guess he is taking things easy to start with. I would love to see him win again but think that Novak & Nadal have caught up to him and hate to say it but we may witness a 'changing of the guard'.

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posted Jun 23, 2008

As much as we would love to see the humble and graceful federer defend his crown here at wimbledon, it seems far from a walk in the park. He would have to match his confidence in the press conference on court to stop the spanish bull. The Matador and the spanish bull .. who'll come on top ? .. i place my money on the spanish bull at this point of time .. federer looks too frail (mentally and physically . agreed ! grass courts don't require sheer strength, but the bug seems to have given Djokovic and Nadal a world of an oppurtunity ) to stop the bull.

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posted Jun 23, 2008

Yeah! we learnt that Hbraty and Federer are very good friends offcourt and this could be Hbraty's last wimbledon. We also learnt that the record that Roger is trying to equal is some guy's who played in the 1880s when he had to play just one match with the challenger. How ridiculous is that? This proves it is so futile and pointless to compare players of different eras. Other than that normal service resumed in the centre court and Roger looked very sharp indeed and from the oohs and aahs of the crowd, one could see how well he played. Go Roger!!!!

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