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Murray gets Santoro

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comment by Lydian (U11731418)

posted Jun 20, 2008

Never plain sailing against the French magician. Personally I'd rather see Santoro go through.

I see Fed got Nole too.

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comment by Snape (U3018951)

posted Jun 20, 2008

I have been like many a fan of Santoro but he is feeling it of late and can't see him giving Murray any problems.

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posted Jun 20, 2008

Whose quarter is Murray in? All that's up is that he's in the same half as Nadal and thus avoids Djoko and Fed.

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posted Jun 20, 2008

I think BBC said the other day that he is not in the same quarter of the Big 3. So he's with whoever the 4th seed is

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posted Jun 20, 2008

That'll be Davydenko then. Only is won't because he never makes the second week.

Opportunity beckons for the surly Scot!

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comment by Snape (U3018951)

posted Jun 20, 2008

My only worry in the early rounds is damp conditions but hopefully it will be dry.

This match would be Tuesday I would think.

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comment by Snape (U3018951)

posted Jun 20, 2008

Murray and Mirnyi have also got Santoro in the doubles, what are the chances of that happening?

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posted Jun 20, 2008

A bit more from the draw is that Murray could get Gasquet in the 4th round and Nadal in the quarters.

Tough draw.

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comment by Snape (U3018951)

posted Jun 20, 2008

Gasquet has to get past Fish first, that is a very tough first match.

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posted Jun 20, 2008

Very tough draw. Potentially Mallisse and Haas (both not slouches) await in rounds 2 and 3 too.

Ironically, if Murray were by some small miracle able to overcome Nadal in the QF, he'd be odds-on to reach the final as his semi-final opponent would be Davydenko (if he gets that far, more likely Roddick, or maybe Fat Dave).

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comment by Snape (U3018951)

posted Jun 20, 2008

I think Murray has a better game for grass than Nadal, as ever his serve will be key.

I don't think he will have too much problem with Malisse and Haas, but then strange things happen on the green stuff.

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comment by DJWWFC (U12287385)

posted Jun 20, 2008

Murray will probably beat Santoro. A potentially very tough match against Gasquet and then an almost impossible match against Nadal. He would do well to get past R4.

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posted Jun 20, 2008

Not sure about the potential match up with Nadal being almost impossible. Particularly if, as Murray thinks, the courts are faster this year.

Murray's pushed him close twice in the last couple of years and grass should suit him better.

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comment by Snape (U3018951)

posted Jun 20, 2008

I agree on a fast court Murray would be favourite as he has shown before he can beat anyone on a quick surface.

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posted Jun 20, 2008

I wouldn't go as far as making him favourite, but it certainly gives him a better chance.

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comment by Snape (U3018951)

posted Jun 20, 2008

Murray thrives on an atmosphere and I hope the British public will respond to that in all the matches he plays.

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posted Jun 20, 2008

Rafa's got Isner or Gulbis in the 2nd round. That could be very interesting...

Come on someone put the proper draw up. I'm fed up with the drip feed!

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comment by Snape (U3018951)

posted Jun 20, 2008

Federer vs Hrbaty
Soderling vs (Q) Kim
Gicquel vs Nishikori
Guccione vs Monfils

Hewitt vs Haase
Montanes vs Berlocq
Bogdanovic vs Bolelli
Ginepri vs Gonzalez

Berdych vs Korolev
Hanescu vs Falla
Sela vs O Rochus
Kohlschreiber vs Verdasco

Llodra vs Ancic
Lee vs Petzschner
Andreev vs Vanek
Stakhovsky vs Ferrer

3. Djokovic vs Berrer
Safin vs Fognini
Serra vs Lu
Kamke vs Seppi

Ferrero vs Querrey
Peya vs Zverev
JM Del Potro vs Snobel
Daniel vs Wawrinka

Baghdatis vs Darcis
Johansson vs Spadea
Belucci vs Kunytsin
Stadler vs Karlovic

Lopez vs Dabul
Karanusic vs Horna
Volandri vs Reynolds
Dancevic vs Nalbandian

6. Roddick vs Schwank
Tipsarevic vs Ascoine
Pashanski vs (Q)Eaton
Mahut vs Tursunov

Almagro vs Granollers
Garcia-Lopez vs Mirva
Ventura vs Schuettler
C Rochus vs Blake

Mathieu vs Hernandez
Chardy vs Gil
Roger-Vasselin vs Cilic
Odesnik vs Nieminen

Ljubicic vs Melzer
Levine vs Young
Bjorkman vs Clement
Becker vs Davydenko

Gasquet vs Fish
Grosjean vs Starace
Anderson vs Calleri
Olenijak vs Simon

Robredo vs Vliegen
Canas vs Haas
Malisse vs Gremelmayr
Santoro vs 12. Murray

16. Stepanek vs Hernych
Troicki vs Lapentti
(WC)Baker vs Galvani
Roitman vs 17. Youzhny

27. Kiefer vs Benneteau
Vassallo-Arguello vs Minar
Isner vs Gulbis
Beck vs 2. Nadal

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comment by LogieB (U8543385)

posted Jun 20, 2008

Some huge upsets on the cards,some very dangerous floaters,with some cracking 1st round match ups.

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posted Jun 20, 2008

Will gasquet even make the 4th round? Although he is a good grass courter, he didn't exactly do too well at queens or this week at Hertogenbosch.

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comment by Goofy (U9333761)

posted Jun 20, 2008

How about Djokovic-Safin in round 2?

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comment by arf (U1873539)

posted Jun 20, 2008

Too right, stonking matchups in the first. I like:

Guccione vs Monfils
Hewitt vs Haase
Ginepri vs Gonzalez
Berdych vs Korolev
Llodra vs Ancic
Ferrero vs Querrey
Roddick vs Schwank
Mahut vs Tursunov
Ljubicic vs Melzer
Gasquet vs Fish
Canas vs Haas
Isner vs Gulbis

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comment by Snape (U3018951)

posted Jun 20, 2008

Too right some great match up's, Fish- Gasquet I would love to see. Ferrero vs Querrey looks interesting too, as do the others.

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comment by deperer (U1960100)

posted Jun 20, 2008

Its a bit stupid of the BBC to allow a typo like 'Cavenday faces williams'... der.. which one?

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comment by slasher (U7328591)

posted Jun 20, 2008


For the first time in years, this is actually a tough wimbledon to call! Fed going for 6 wimbledons in a row, I think this will be by far his toughest.

I think if djoko can make semis, it will make for a really exciting semi final. Should fed get through that, it would probably take him 4 - 5 sets, he would be pretty shattered to face nadal.

That said, I have a strange feeling nadal will be knocked out before then. I know the form guides says he will make the final but I see a shock coming along the way.

Hope djokovic wins it but may be a year early for him on grass. I can see him as a future winner though.

Its funny that with all the talk around Nadal winning four French opens in a row, Federer has actually won 5 wimbledons in a row and this is hardly mentioned! He has also beaten nadal in the past two finals.

This wimbledon promises to be really exciting!

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posted Jun 20, 2008

Why on earth is Djokovic due to play Federer in the semi finals, shouldn't two in the world play three?
I agree that Djokovic and Nadal are playing the best two in the world, but ranking why I don't get it.

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comment by Snape (U3018951)

posted Jun 20, 2008

2 never plays 3, the same as 1 would not play 2 in the same half.

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posted Jun 20, 2008

I just can not imagine a wimbledon without Federer winning it. On star sports at the moment they are showing the wimbledon classics, Fed was sublime in some of those matches!

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comment by Ian B (U3864728)

posted Jun 20, 2008

Nadal has a fairly tough run - Isner or Gulbis in R2, probably Keifer in R3, Youzny (who has been good at Wimby before) in R4 and Murray or Gasquet in the QF. He'll be favourite for each but there are a few potential banana skins in that lot.

Then again, Fed has Monfils and Hewitt R3 and R4, then possibly Ancic and Djoko. Again, you'd have him start favourite, but it's no walk in the park.

Djoko-Safin in round 2 could be good (although would be more of a challenge on hard courts), but then Novak looks to have a relatively easy couple of rounds before a potential Qf with Fat Dave (although I think Nalby might be gone by then)

First round shocker? Perhaps Ben Becker winning against Davydenko?

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posted Jun 20, 2008

Funny how I get a post removed for cheering on Santoro... The mods really do strive off power trips eh...

Why have a post pulled for saying Murrary is a whinger? Thats all he does, his tone of voice can send someone to sleep within seconds.

Plus he is very anti english, which is true.

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posted Jun 20, 2008

"First round shocker? Perhaps Ben Becker winning against Davydenko?"

The man who killed Bambi. Not sure how big a shock that would be to be honest.

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posted Jun 20, 2008

Think that Nadal has got the most difficult draw he could have imagined - especially the possible round 2 opponent Isner or Gulbis. Either one of those will potentially take at least a set off him. As for Murray, well I'm kind of dissappointed he isn't in the same part of the draw as Federer as I'd love to have seen them go head to head. Santoro won't be an easy match, but he should have enough. In their only previous meeting he won convincingly 6-4 6-2. If he gets as far as Nadal and his game is on I'd expect him to give Rafa a tough match, and possibly beat him given Murray's greater experience. We'll see though, but really looking forward to the tournament now. Anyone going? I may try to go after work sometime next week.

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comment by Snape (U3018951)

posted Jun 20, 2008

He is not anti English at all just normal banter we give the Scots and the Scots give the English.

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posted Jun 20, 2008

I disagree Stuart...

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posted Jun 20, 2008

slashermcguirk, I don't agree that Federer's wins are not mentioned. We are constantly remindered that he has won 12 Grand slams and going to try to break Sampras' record. In fact some Sampras' fans hope he doesn't! (we all know he's won 5 Wimbledon and so many US and Australian opens). So I don't know why you said that. Also it's about time Rafa gets some recognition for what he has achieved so far and afterall he is still so young (just turned 22 years old) to have achieved 4 consecutive grandslams is a major achievement. I do take exception to Nadal (22 years old) being compared with Federer who is nearly 27 -amazing!!! and many underestimate Nadal's talent. I do believe Federer is given more mention than Nadal but admittedly, some are recognising his talent and he is now often mention in the same sentence as Federer (also Djokovic is mentioned as part of the talented trio). Wimbledon will certainly make for facinating viewing for the next two weeks.

May all true Tennis fans enjoy the game. I will no doubt be logging on to read your views, but no insults please, let's leave this to football fans! :-)

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comment by EDAVFC (U7684851)

posted Jun 20, 2008

Stuart (U3018951)
posted 43 Minutes Ago
He is not anti English at all just normal banter we give the Scots and the Scots give the English.

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exactly! if people actually listened to what Murray says and not just believe what they read in certain places then they would see he loves the support he gets from all british fans! Scottish AND English! the only comments he has made is he doesn't like being called english cos its not true, he has no problem being called british! and also the world cup thing which was said jokingly! let the boy have a joke once in a while jesus!

back to the point i can't see murray getting past nadal so the quarters would be a good result for him, its a shame cos i would give him a decent chance against Djoko and Fed!

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posted Jun 20, 2008

It's a really odd draw system - Paris was 2v3 in the semis, as is logical and as normally happens; here 1v3. Why?

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posted Jun 20, 2008

I think it is a mistake by people to hand Federer the Wimbledon 2008 trophy, before the tournament has even started.

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comment by PimBo (U1657321)

posted Jun 20, 2008

No worries Vamos, the actual handing over will be at the end!

Fed may not meet Hewitt, come on Haase, Dutch football is in the lift, rise with it!

If Nadal makes it to the final, that will be an achievement per se.

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comment by meeto_1 (U8051425)

posted Jun 20, 2008

no this is the best draw for Murray. I would definately expect no less than his first quaterfinal appearance. If he was in the same half as djoko and fed he would potentially have to beat all three of them to win. Besides he has a terrible record against djoko. Atleast his losses against nadal were tight. I fancy Murray against Nadal on all occassions apart from the one on clay the win could have gone either way.

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posted Jun 20, 2008

I thought that in the semis that seed 1 played 4 and seed two played 3 how is federer playing novak...........?

Marcsuirish :)

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posted Jun 20, 2008

I love Grass court tennis but can understand why some can get cheesed of with Wimbledon setup.
Is it me or do they just set the draws the way they see fit?
I didn't think seeds 1 and 3 normally meet.
If I'm wrong, sorry?
Can someone confirm this?

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posted Jun 20, 2008

Is Taylor Dent playing this year I wonder??....... what a big server!!

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posted Jun 20, 2008

"...That said, I have a strange feeling nadal will be knocked out before then. I know the form guides says he will make the final but I see a shock coming along the way. ...."

No disrespect mate, I'm a Major Fed fan but can't see that. The spanish bull is starting to resemble a TERMINATOR.
Hope your right and I'm wrong. <smiley>

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posted Jun 20, 2008

Why are there so many delicate English? Honestly its like you love to have someone to hate or something to complain about. Murray made a comment jokinly years ago and some are still taking it personally - gets a life.

Im just off the news messageboards where posters take any opp to take a pop at Scotland or Scots.

They used to call the Scots chippy but its certainly the other way round these days. Surely there are slightly more important things in life than a Scottish teenager saying he didnt support the England football team years ago? Half of Manchester doesnt either!

Deary what a sad pathetic bunch some of the English have become.

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comment by PimBo (U1657321)

posted Jun 20, 2008

On the draw, explained by many before me:

though it is common and it may seem logical to plan a semi-final 1-4 and 2-3 (which is what we did in regional tournaments I played in the past, and so on for the earlier rounds where seeds could meet), the grand slams draw such both combinations (the one above and 1-3,2-4) are equally likely - the luck of the draw, indeed!

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posted Jun 20, 2008

This is it! Murray gets a draw he could only dream about. I'm going to stick my neck out, and say, He's gonna win it! I can really see him playing Djokovic in the final. The support That he will get should be more than enough to see him go all the way. Move over Roger! It's all over..

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posted Jun 20, 2008

santoro is a very tricky player to handle...even at 35! if andy can handle his tricks, he can demolish him, otherwise be prepared for an embarassing defeat.

i think nadal is in for a duzy! ernest gulbis in the 2nd round! if he can survive rd 2, i can see him coasting to the semi's.

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posted Jun 20, 2008

"Murray will probably beat Santoro. A potentially very tough match against Gasquet and then an almost impossible match against Nadal."

...not the way gasquet has been playing of late, andy has actually been playing better tennis. And nadal is not a lock..a potential upset awaits in rd 2 (gulbis). I honestly believe it would be easier for andy to make it to the quarters than for andy!

eslewhere..djoko's section is really tough this year, while i don't see any threat in roger's section (except maybe eduardo schwank..yes! i said it, eduardo!!).

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