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Ist Test 2008

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posted Jun 13, 2008

That is a pessamistic but realistic scoreline, I would go for something like a realistic
26-19 against, we have tries in us no doubt and we can compete.

There still is an outside chance that we can win one test which would be a great success.

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posted Jun 13, 2008

This is gonna be a great game!

The best part of the battle will be up front, and the team that can get parity there, will pretty much be in the driver's seat. However counter attacking ability will contribute also.

As a Kiwi, I have to agree we still haven't got over the quarter final loss in the RWC last year. Emotions run pretty high amongst us who support rubgy. There's a little humiliation, a little anger round and about, and the players and coaches aren't spared from this either.

In saying this however, I think, partly because of this, the ABs are gonna want it more and will be playing out of their skins, all year at that. They a bit to prove.

Regarding their game against the Irish last week, I don't want to sound too arrogant, but I think the scoreline flattered the Irish a little. I watched the game a couple of times and it became clear that we were better at the lineouts, in the scrums, and at the breakdown.

I hope England will be a challenge, I'm sure they can be, but overall I think NZ will want it more.

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posted Jun 13, 2008

best of luck to the english down there but i just cant see u's winning, i dont like your back row and think kennedy should be playing, also the lack of a class outhalf due to the unfortunate injuries to other players could help in your downfall. im afraid i would predict 35 14 to the all blacks

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posted Jun 13, 2008

"The fickle New Zealand public has still not got over the last humiliating loss in the World Cup."

Gee we are a blighted people. If we a not arrogant chokers, then we are blindly partisan cheats, etc etc.

It now seems we are also fickle. Thanks for letting us know and for your informed comment on the NZ psyche. We appreciate any advice you lot can give us. It always helps for us to know our place.

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posted Jun 13, 2008

fallingTP: I don't think the poster who said that was a WUM and I don't think he meant it offensively.

Since you presumably have a more informed opinion than he does regarding the fall in attendances over the S14 & for the Ireland game, would you care to share it? (I would be genuinely interested to know; I'm guessing 'fickle' is just a value-laden way of saying that people are disheartened with the NZRFU after the RWC & Henry's re-appointment.)

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posted Jun 13, 2008

happy to oblige...

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posted Jun 13, 2008

nice one sunshine, but i believe the margin will be much much bigger. it could be humiliating for poor old england, but then again,there is always tomorrow,

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posted Jun 13, 2008

The crowd at the Ireland game was 2-3000 below capacity. Super 14 down for two reasons:

- people are becoming pretty ho hum about the competition

- ticket prices.

NZers are not used to paying, and many can't afford, to pay the prices now being asked. Tickets for tomorrow's game are between $70 and $120. This is a sizeable outlay for many, and this sensitivity to price is more apparent where you have small population unlike the uk where demand is such that for many inetrnationals you could sell out Twickers probably twice at current prices. Wellignton has a population smaller than Nottingham. It does take much for the affects of ever increasing prices to be seen in terms of bums on seats.

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posted Jun 13, 2008

Given the relative strengths of the sport in the two countries NZ should win the Test series easily - just as England won the cricket test series easily for more or less the same reasons.

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posted Jun 13, 2008

"Given the relative strengths of the sport in the two countries NZ should win the Test series easily"

May be but there are in fact more registered cricket players in NZ than rugby players and I think we have more soccer players than in either code.

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posted Jun 13, 2008

I think you are a bit out on the score, but I agree NZ will win, however, I can see a result in the region of 50-14 or something like that.
However, the England side will learn a lot from the tour and it will put them in good stead for the season to come.
I predict defeat in the Southern Hemisphere, but a Grand Slam in the 6 nations - with Johnson at the helm, success is assured and before too long, he will get Shaun Edwards, mark my words.
As much as Wilkinson was 'the hero' of 2003, the man who won it for England in my eyes was Martin Johnson - he will bring the same leadership qualities to management.
World Champions 2011 - England - remember where you heard it first.

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posted Jun 13, 2008

WalkingInMud said "the team that can get parity there, will pretty much be in the driver's seat." - Parity = an equal share - so both teams will be in the driving seat? duh!

England's slim hopes rest on the tight five, and particularly the front row, which is at least a match for the ABs. The issue is what they do with that possession. If they simply kick the ball away and hope for a fumble - as the did in the RWC final and the 6 nations, they will get hammered.

Interesting point - when did England last start with no Leicester players?

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posted Jun 13, 2008

Personally I think it'll be tougher than a huge margin... We're rebuilding a new team and this'll be the second played in 8 months..

I'm not expecting a whipping by the mighty ABs but would be happy with a good game, few errors and a win.. smiley

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posted Jun 14, 2008

Anyone know how I can listen to the match on the internet from Sweden? BBC commentary is UK users only - and they don't post a link to alternatives.

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posted Jun 14, 2008

Barkleys 1st attempt displays the gulf between Englands kicking and Irelands (O'Gara). The lattter managing to slot from that position in the absymal conditions of Wellington a week ago.

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posted Jun 14, 2008

Whhhhy ? Ohhh why can't I listn to the live commentary? (I live in France sadface )

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posted Jun 14, 2008

Its hard to compare this weeks conditions to the last. If England lose as bad as Ireland did here then I hope Ireland get more credit then they deserve

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posted Jun 14, 2008

Stuart Barnes praises Barkley for a cool strike in front of the posts doh

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posted Jun 14, 2008

I'm watching it live and reading the live texxt and the text is coming before what's going on on the TV!

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posted Jun 14, 2008

David Strettle shows his inexperience. Brilliant defense from Jermome Keono. Should have been a try

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posted Jun 14, 2008

Ahhhhh so frustrating! I got so excited there for a minute.

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comment by U3542571

posted Jun 14, 2008

I love it - even when the All Blacks score, the BBC contrive to keep the score at 0. So it's New Zealand 0 - 3 England after the All Blacks equalized - excellent !! Kepe it that way BBC and I can fool myself that England will win too.

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posted Jun 14, 2008

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Conrad Smith!!!

England all the play but with only 6 points to show for it!!!

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comment by U3542571

posted Jun 14, 2008

Ah, I've worked it out, Pranev the non-Rugby expert is commentating. Hence the odd score tracking ladies and gentlemen.

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posted Jun 14, 2008

C'mon England. Im stuck at work all day with a Kiwi. Almost run out of jibes on the cricket. Got my George cross socks on and ready to roll my trouser legs up for the rest of the day to rub it in. Come On!!

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comment by U3542571

posted Jun 14, 2008

I want to shoot the BBC Rugby Commentaty scripwriter - man o man. Just kidding -very witty!! Come on England - the trick is to score more tries than the All Blacks !!

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posted Jun 14, 2008

What a try!!!

England ripped to shreads

I hope Martin Johnson is watching this!

Is Rob Andrew eating his words?

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comment by Bez1989 (U5236751)

posted Jun 14, 2008

All going down the pan now

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posted Jun 14, 2008

Ooh dear. Not sure I want to watch this any more sadface

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posted Jun 14, 2008

All going down the pan now

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Now Cauliflower ears is off for 10

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comment by U3542571

posted Jun 14, 2008

Pranav - just kidding mate. But explain this one, a penalty 7 points at the All Blacks 20 point mark? huh?? I know it's late, but stop - it's messing with my mind man.

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comment by Bez1989 (U5236751)

posted Jun 14, 2008

Right that's it. I can't watch these next 10 minutes. I'm off for a bacon butty!

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posted Jun 14, 2008

19 MIN: "The All Blacks are looking rattled"
29 MIN: AB 20 ENG 6

Great Reading of the Game :D Come on the AB's.

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posted Jun 14, 2008

How does our live text writer control Daniel Carter's legs like that?
You could make a lot of money out of that...

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posted Jun 14, 2008

Yes!! Interception try for England!! They're back in it.

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posted Jun 14, 2008

Topsy Ojo with that one!! Good for him!

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comment by Bez1989 (U5236751)

posted Jun 14, 2008

Can I go back on my last 2 comments?

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posted Jun 14, 2008

Bez you missed a try!

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posted Jun 14, 2008

AB's are going to slaughter The Old Boys in the second half.... especially after that 14 point play.

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posted Jun 14, 2008

Well you are still here :D 23-13, still in with a chance but the players need to start the second half as they started the first.

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posted Jun 14, 2008

"What a score, England looked destined to be *28-11* before the London Irish wing stepped in for a dream score on debut."

Ok i see what Will was talking about... what is that all about?

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comment by U3542571

posted Jun 14, 2008

Great Try for England, four more and we'll win it. But who is the typescripter at HQ BBC? Following the threads of the live commentary is still messing with my mind guys. keep up the good work though BBC - great stuff !

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posted Jun 14, 2008

You didn't really think that England could do it against the All Blacks did you?

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comment by U9563463

posted Jun 14, 2008

'England looked destined to be 28-11 before the London Irish wing stepped in for a dream score on debut.'

You mean 28-6 right? And why does the score at the top of the comments suggest that New Zealand are playing New Zealand! lol!

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comment by Bez1989 (U5236751)

posted Jun 14, 2008

Judging from the replay I should've missed an AB try but well done to Topsy. Great gambling rugby and if we can nick a penalty early on then ABs will be really under pressure, especially when we get back to 15 men.

All we need now is for someone to tell the AB dressing room that this is a world cup knockout match biggrin

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comment by U3542571

posted Jun 14, 2008

OK Ok, enough is enough. New Zealand are beating New Zealand 23-13, arrgghhhhhh, Nurse !!

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posted Jun 14, 2008

Are you joking ? 4 more English tries ?

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posted Jun 14, 2008

get hodgson off and tait on in the centres.. barkley to ten...hodgson has done sweet nothing except for throw a pass on the floor!!!

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posted Jun 14, 2008

I apologise boys and girls,
The fingers get a little excited when I'm bashing out the words - the brain forgets to do the math.
Hope you lot are enjoying this as much as I am. Trust me, it's very difficult to contain your excitement and type away like a nutter at the same time.
Will - I like the cut of your tongue and cheek, you're a man after my own humour.
Thanks for all your words chaps, here's hoping for another 40 minutes of excitement

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posted Jun 14, 2008

We can;t contain our excitement as well chaps.


Let's all sit down and watch the second half.

Should be educational.

Kia Ora.

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