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by Dr Gonzo (U9531731) 16 January 2011
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Is it me or do we appear to be hanging our hopes on the transfer in of Ben Davies - now call me a fact monger if you like but Notts county are 16th in League 1 !! I have my doubts that such an injection of " quality" is the magical "fix -all" we need . Once again I think we are being deluded in the hope that by the time nothing transpires in the transfer window ( again) the brownian motion of cloughs player shuffling will accidentally force a draw and stave off the anger for a couple of weeks .

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comment by CPag (U14579380)

posted Jan 17, 2011

Wish people would stop getting on the club's back for lower league signings. Nigel's record hasn't been bad so far! His only bad buy was Croft and he was a top Championship player at the time! Maybe Roberts also, but again he has played most of his career in the Championship!

Not sure we'll sign Davies now as the club have proved they will walk away if asked to pay over the odds. Waghorn is a good player though with bags of potential, if he does the business we'd need decent money to sign him in the summer though!

Big signings are not needed now, but will be in the summer if we are to progress into serious contenders in this league. We need a stronger spine with a bit more experience and some physical presence, we play fantastic football (as good as anyone in the league) when on form but we're lightweight and easily bullied out of games when things don't go our way.

I'm sure won't be in a relegation battle but we need to stop this rot quickly otherwise we could be dragged into it. Lets get back to playing people in the right positions and start attacking teams again. If we are to lose to Forest at the weekend, i'd rather we play the fluent attacking football we're capable of and have a go at them than put in a negative performance and lose by a late goal!

We have the right manager, as for GSE, I commend them for running the club sensibly but next season is the time to judge whether they are right for Derby County. The fans will not accept another mid table season without investment. Lets hope it doesn't come to that.

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posted Jan 18, 2011

Spot on about your comments about us playing good football but being bullied out of games.

I think you're a little over optimistic about G.S.E though. There's all talk and absolutely no walk in my opinion. Glick even said on the radio that he wouldn't buy players 'just to chase a promotion'. Just a promotion? Surely that's why we exist to improve, otherwise we might as well not exist.

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posted Jan 18, 2011

Davies seems a tidy player at league 1 level
my concern is Waghorn a player who can't command a place in leicester's first eleven this season
We don't seem to be in the market for good quality players like Jay Emanual Thomas just gone to Cardiff 'if only'

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posted Jan 18, 2011

Ask yourself the question.. .. .. .. .. .. .. ..

Do we have a cautious Manager, inexperienced in the transfer market OR is GSE holding the purse strings and dictating how much NC can spend so NC is cutting his cloth accordingly??????

Either way NC's history of identifying players of sufficient quality remains poor!!

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posted Jan 19, 2011

Have to agree with CPag that we are suffering from a lack of spine in the team both in the physical sense and player's attitudes. It seems that Nigel does not have the knowhow to motivate what he has got and the club seems to be alienating others in the transfer market and loan players after they complete their first stint at Pride Park. Has it been noticeable that loanees have opted to go elsewhere or players have voted not to move to Rams. This has to be down to the boardroom management as NC said before Xmas that he wanted 2 players - wish for 3 - early in January. Well now is mid January and the cupboard appears to be bare, Notts County are fuming about our 'derisory' bids and Luke Moore followed a familiar trend of walking away from Derby. The attendances have dropped by 5,000 this term and it cannot all be down to the national economic plight as Tom Glick claimed earlier on this season. Prices are heavy and people do not see progress or improvement which is what they expect for their money. In the transfer market there does not seem to be a Plan B if the first objectives are not available. I thought NC had a target list but it seems that his wish does not match with GSE's capability or intent. Every business needs a modicum of investment, which is why so many firms are annoyed at the lack of support from the banks to allow adequate cashflow and capital investment, but in Rams case Tom Glick seems to want to advertise the fact that we have no money to invest and would rather upset other clubs by making a fool of the club trying to obtain a player on the cheap. Why not get realistic and start by showing some respect to others who might then begin to talk to us and compromise on their valuation. If we cannot get by on much bigger attendances than most others in the division, and show a little ambition, then there will be no future and no fans left apart from the hardcore of 15k. I do not contribute to the belief that NC should go (as who could do better with little or no support from above?) and I have always believed that it would take 5 years to achieve a quality team but, after 2 of those years, there appears very little improvement or quality apart from the youngsters' potential. All that has been achieved is financial progress has been made in costs and liabilities but no thought given to the investment which is required by all businesses. It is understood that Mr Appleby was less than impressed when visiting over Christmas and the fans are less than impressed by their apparent lack of ambition or capability. We would all be prepared to attend a forum if our voices would be heard but there seems very little point as the there is "none so blind as those who won't see". Some of the fans out here do know about business and what today's market is about but there has to be the intention to perform better before anything can be achieved.

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posted Jan 19, 2011

It seems as though NC pursuit of Ben Davies is the last act of a desperate manager who's current team seem to be heading for the trap door.
Neither Ben Davies, Paul Ince, or Notts Chairman Ray Trew have much appetite for this deal to actually materialise, and clearly since Paul Ince arrived Notts County's all round form and performances have been fantastic including FA Cup glory.
Also Ben Davies still has 18 months left on his contract at Notts so could still afford to stay till the end of this season to see what transpires.
Sometimes football is not always about money clubs managers chairman and players on occassions forge a successful relationship that goes beyond big transfer fees and fat over inflated unrealistic salaries.
I wish Derby luck for the rest of the season but I wish they would start looking elsewhere for their new squad additions!

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posted Jan 20, 2011

n c is doing a good job just remember he was at burton for 10 yrs and they got promoted the year n c join us if it take him 4 or 5 years to get us promoted then so be it.

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posted Jan 20, 2011

I should not moan about Notts being 16th in leauge one, Derby could not even beat Crawley. Ben Davies is a good player and problably better than many of Derbys other players apart from Commons. Without him and his goals this season Derby would be in or around the relegation area. biggrin

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comment by Mik (U14428222)

posted Jan 20, 2011

Hope all at Derby are happy with their work. They finally tapped him up and Notts will poorer for the loss.

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posted Jan 20, 2011

what like jewel

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