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Scotland The Brave!!!!

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by ospreysboyo (U7619042) 20 November 2010
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That has just made my weekend! After yesterdays misery for me, this was amazing! Well done Scotland, a brave, powerful performance against the world champs, if my countries team could have shown just 1% of the guts and pride your boys judt did, i'd be very happy! Da iawn Scotland! Enjoy your victory!!!!!!!

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comment by U8659606

posted Nov 22, 2010

"On that note, legends like Victor Matfield and John Smit deserve better than this."

Actually if you read the Sunday Times interview with Matfield (which is excellent), you'll see that he comes out as quite a big fan of PDV (and less a fan of Jake White). I don't get it personally, but apparently PDV has the support of the core group of players.

Completely agree re: chunk. He's on excellent form, and I thought he also played well against the ABs. He'll be absolutely key against Samoa.

As for the call for Jackson above. I think he'll get some game time against Samoa, and let's just take it from there.

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posted Nov 22, 2010

Well I have heard a noisey Murrayfeild and quiet ones for sure, and I have heard mixed messages from fans who were there, but I will pose this question as I did almost 10 years ago to the SRU..............

The introduction of music when the home side scores does nothing to improve the natural quality of a home based support. The introoduction came when Murrayfield was hosting American Football.

Music tells the crowd when to cheer which as a fan of sports and a Graduate of sports studies i feel removes the responsibility of the supporters and makes them depenable on when to cheer and when not. In short the arguement lies somewhere in between whether supporters are participants of the experience or whether they are there to be entertained.

I think of the 16th man at Murrayfeild in 1990, and I think of the some of the internationals I attended in the late 90s and early naughties, and I know what has changed are those attending Rugby. Whether we are more knowledgable , or more demanding I don't know, but these days living abroad, a win is a win and I for one for happy for the Scots.

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posted Nov 22, 2010

Well done Scotland. A great result and the team seems to be getting harder to beat coming up to the RWC which bodes well. Don't take Samoa too lightly - they've been giving Ireland and England a tough time.

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posted Nov 22, 2010

Being a South African supporter, I am obviously very disappointed. All credit to Scotland for winning on Saturday.

Not wanting to sound too much like a bad loser, I was very disappointed with the referee on Saturday. I have seen Victor Matfield lead his provincial team and our country for a number of years and have never seen him so angry with a referee. I felt that the referee was penalising South Africa for things, and not Scotland for the same thing.

In saying that, the Springboks played terrible and if we want to remain world champions, we will need to improve drastically. Our coach is taking a lot of risks and trying different things which is obviously not working at present and I feel South African rugby need a new coach with new ideas. In addition, the springboks gave away position all the time with silly kicks which was not tactical at all, pointless in my opinion.

On another point, referees are taking between 10 and 17 minutes for scrums this season which mean a lot less game time which doesn't help.

To sum my thoughts up, well done to Scotland although the springboks was hard done by the referee although should take full responsiblity for their performance giving away position unneccessarily.

Regards,
Dissappointed Springbok Fan

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comment by Brodie (U14339286)

posted Nov 22, 2010

Great come back from last weekend! defense was brilliant, line outs were good and every player looked as though they gave it there all. It doesn't matter if the score was produced by kicks, it was the safe play and it worked out well. It was so wet that I am sure that if they had opted for line outs in SA's 22 then there would have been risk of a knock on or a slip if Scotland had tried to play wide with the backs. Dan Parks was kicking superbly so good choice of tactics I'd say. This a good platform to improve on, I think the critical thing that still needs to be addressed is supporting players who break through the opposition's defense! Richie Vernon at one point was flying towards SA'a try line and the rest of the team were just totally caught off guard to support him. all it would have needed was one more player to be there on his left to one-two SA's full back and to create an opportunity. We must not! I repeat! Must not! look at Samoa as an easy game! They will be tough opponents.

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posted Nov 22, 2010

Agree with Brodie after last year's win over Australia, they became over confident and were rightly punished by Argentina.

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comment by U8659606

posted Nov 22, 2010

"Not wanting to sound too much like a bad loser, I was very disappointed with the referee on Saturday."

Me too. The South African full back should have been yellow carded or at least penalised for the illegal tackle on Vernon. He was the last man and clearly didn't have the courage to tackle properly, thus the swinging arm. Then there was the South African punch after Southwell touched down on our own line. The ref went back for the penalty, but where was the yellow card? A punch is a yellow card offence. Then of course there was Ross Ford's throwing at the line-out. One of them was perfectly straight, and the ref gave a South African scrum. Poor decision which cost us the chance to clear our lines.

As for Matfield, the answer was simple. Tell your players to listen to the ref. All too often the ref would shout "leave it" or "ball is still in", and the South Africans would continue to plunder the ball and get penalised. Personally, I think Dickinson is a pedantic ref at the breakdown, and less whistle would have benefitted both sides. But whereas Scotland adapted well to his interpretations, South Africa did not. Matfield tried to hard to boss the ref, and needed to listen more and communicate what the ref was saying to his players. Poor captaincy.

Whereas when we beat Australia last year, it felt like a bit of a fluke. I did not feel the same way on Saturday. We played the conditions better than the Boks, and what's more, we didn't really have to play that well to win. We were nothing more than solid, and the Boks didn't really threaten us. That's encouraging.

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posted Nov 22, 2010

you forgot the spear tackle by Steyn on Sean Lamont there FES!

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comment by U8659606

posted Nov 22, 2010

Absolutely!

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posted Nov 23, 2010

"As for Matfield, the answer was simple. Tell your players to listen to the ref. All too often the ref would shout "leave it" or "ball is still in", and the South Africans would continue to plunder the ball and get penalised. Personally, I think Dickinson is a pedantic ref at the breakdown, and less whistle would have benefitted both sides. But whereas Scotland adapted well to his interpretations, South Africa did not. Matfield tried to hard to boss the ref, and needed to listen more and communicate what the ref was saying to his players. Poor captaincy.

Whereas when we beat Australia last year, it felt like a bit of a fluke. I did not feel the same way on Saturday. We played the conditions better than the Boks, and what's more, we didn't really have to play that well to win. We were nothing more than solid, and the Boks didn't really threaten us. That's encouraging."

Encouraging for Scotland, sure.. regarding your comment about Matfield around poor captaincy.. that is your opinion.

Question is:

Can you see Scotland win the world cup?

My opinion: I just don't see it, sorry.

Can South Africa win the world cup?

My opinion: Without doubt

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