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by chiefporky74 (U14346861) 13 November 2010
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Sonny Bill voted MOTM today.
Has he arrived or just looked good against average defense?
You can only play whats in front of you and him and Gear looked the business today.

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comment by Kevo (U1688749)

posted Nov 13, 2010

As an Irish fan I am very fearful of a NZ hiding. We are so pedestrian and unambitious, but with NZ and Aus u boys are keen to attack from anywhere.


Most of NZ tries do come from counter attacks but the strike rate against scotland today was phenomenal.

Its not so much Bill's performance that is the difference - its the intensity at the tackle and ruck area, and as a result NZ never commit too many players giving them tons of options when they do turn it over. Great stuff though!

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comment by jeremy (U3100159)

posted Nov 13, 2010

BVit of both really. NZ were awesome today tho.

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posted Nov 14, 2010

Quite simple.Scotland were very poor for 80 mins and NZ punished us for every mistake we made.Not only that but none of our experienced players stepped up to the mark.NZ were absolutely top class but I still think that Aus will be a match for them next year in the RWC if they sort their set piece out.

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posted Nov 14, 2010

Once he gets his lines and space sorted he'll come up trumps alright. He's still learning but from that match one of those rare types that has so much 'presence' on the field. Makes you really look to see what hes gonna do when he gets the ball.

And with the class around him to get the handoffs it brings new dimensions to the AB midfield game. No need to go to ground for quick turnover ball, just take it from the hand off and go.

That has been our failing previously. 2007 we couldnt find a way through the French defence in midfield. Here we have an option against typically defensive WC opponents.

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posted Nov 14, 2010

"SBW hasn't even started yet. He's hampered by a lack of confidence and the AB's game plan. He's fearful of attacking the line yet as well but when he does, when his confidence balloons you will see one of the most destructive backline players in the world that will make Nonu look like Arthur Askey"
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There was a famousimpressario who used to say pretty much the same things about Henry Paul, Iestyn Harris, Andy Farrell, Karl Pryce, Leslie Vainokolo and Clinton Toopi.

Are you related by any chance?

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posted Nov 14, 2010

if you are comparing sbw to any of those you really don't know anything.

agree that it is early days but I reiterate judge him with no preconceptions.

for a debutant I don't care who you are he has played great so far

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posted Nov 14, 2010

SBW by reputation or otherwise seems to draw in a couple of defenders every time he has the ball, and there is no better team at exploiting the opportunities that that creates than New Zealand.

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posted Nov 14, 2010

Exactly Rodders. In both the tests hes played the double ups occurred every time he got the ball it seems. Understandable as hes the one making the hit on the defence but as the weekend match showed gaps appeared further out.

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comment by philmus (U1061552)

posted Nov 15, 2010

For me Sonny Boy Williams was a bit of a one trick pony however his back of the hand flip was one trick to many for Scotland. I believe it lead to at least three of the tries.

I was extremely disappointed with Scotland's display. They appeared static and slow to the breakdown, yet again the forwards would make some progress only for the ball to be knocked on by bad handling. The defence reminded me of a school boy rugby team. Yes, we had some players missing, yes this was our first international for five months (a severe scheduling mistake)but these are professional rugby players who are based not only in Scotland but also in England, France, Wales and Ireland. It seems we still have not instilled a proper professional attitude in our players.

Scotland need a reality check, and this may be it, so Andy Robinson seriously needs to review his options. The last great Scotland team came from a national trial which replaced the old guard with G Hastings et al. Is it that the current crop of centrally contracted players are too comfortable with no one allowed to challenge their position? I fear with the current system, we will never be able to select a talented 18 year old as the Welsh did. An open national trial, as in the pre professional days may be a good idea!

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posted Nov 15, 2010

It was a great (early) afternoon telly on Saturday for me...Wales pushed SA very hard indeed, England took Aus to the cleaners and so I settled down to watch Scotland ( in my mind )bravely go down fighting to NZ....wrong...very wrong...it was all over in 20 mins.
Is it the Scottish mentality?...if they are bigged up they dont seem to play well...write them off and they are all over you like a rash..also which genius scheduled Scotland to come in cold against the well tested AB's?
However, after beating the Argies twice away I certainly expected a bit more than Saturdays offering.

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