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Professional Referees

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by Sakebhoy (U11008075) 26 October 2010
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We got beat fair dos.

Samaras should have been sent off - couldn't believe he wasn't!
Stokes was lucky he wasn't for his "forwards" challenge early doors.

Been thinking of this before, and the Dundee Utd game just made me think on it again....but Scottish top flight football needs professional referees.

I know we can't really compare us with NFL or MLB but in both these sports (American football & Baseball)they have professional referee teams that work together and are monitored for their performances. They also watch video tapes of their performances together and discuss it among themselves and see in what way they can improve or what they got wrong.

I don't know where the money would come from (perhaps a % of gate receipts thru the season)but i strongly believe that professional referees and assistant referees are THE way to go.

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posted Oct 29, 2010

Sanity has broken out.

If you don't condemn yourself for conning refs don't condemn the ref for being conned.

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posted Oct 31, 2010

Could someone refresh my memory here was it not about 10 years ago a certain Mr Lennon jumped up in the are and went flat on his back screaming in pain holding his face and to all the world looked like he was polaxed from a young Kilmarnock or St Johnston player who was sent off and the TV replay showed that he waved the same Mr Lennon away and it clearly showed no contact so was the referee wrong to send the player or should he had used his judgment to see that there was not a mark on Mr Lennon as far as I am concerned this current situation is hypocrisy from Celtic who when they are winning by whatever means is fine but conspircy abound when they do not get their way and this nonsense only devalues the Scottish game

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posted Oct 31, 2010

Referees do not commit the fouls or the simulation. Time to lay the blame where it lies. At the feet (or hands) of the clubs and their players. Time to crack down to "simulation" (No really it's cheating). Until points are deducted in league games and teams are expelled from cups it will remain easy to blame referees for a poor decision rather than the cheats.

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posted Nov 1, 2010

To be honest, we need to forget about the debate on whether a referee was right or wrong on a particular issue. Why? Because he is right, even when wrong. It is the only way on the pitch. The game is being ruined by snarling clowns on the pitch, challenging the referee at every turn. The ref is only human. He often has only a split second to make a critical decision. Everyone should live with it, no matter what it is. If we don't adopt this philosophy football is doomed, as referees will just quite the sport. Verbally challenging a referees decision should be an automatic yellow card. We could end up with loads being sent off. Fine, so its game abandoned and no points for the teams involved. The message will eventually sink in and referees will be able to do their jobs with confidence. A harsh way to go about things maybe, but the present situation simply cannot continue.

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posted Nov 3, 2010

Bugaloo <applause>

I would sooner they made a decision to NOT make a decision, than make a wrong decision <erm>... but you are right, referees (at least while on the field <whistle>) should be sacrosanct.

But would it still have been a penalty then had the Utd players not all yapped and bayed at poor Dougie?


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posted Nov 3, 2010

But would it still have been a penalty then had the Utd players not all yapped and bayed at poor Dougie?
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It's irrelevant, the correct decision was come to in the end. I really don't get what Celtic fans don't understand. Whether the linesman, the ref or the man on the moon instigated the change of mind, THE DECISION WAS CORRECT. Get over it, you still won the bloody game.

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posted Nov 4, 2010

db,

I was talking to bugaloo, who said the referees decision should be final.

I agree, in which case he gave a penalty qed it was penalty <biggrin>

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posted Nov 4, 2010

Bugaloo, I completely agree. I spent 20 years as a Referee half of that time as a linesman in the scottish league until I retired in 1975. Look back the sports pages in the late 50's and 60's and you will see the the same complaints from the same clubs about referee's. Far to many managers standing on the touch line trying to instruct players who are getting large sums of money how to play the game. We didn't have a fourth official and we managed fine, it is disgusting the abuse that he gets. I don't think it would make any difference if we had full time referees the job is to insecure with managers and the press trying to get them their P45's.The present day officials are supervised more than we were and that puts a lot of pressure on them. Those of us who took on the roll gave honest decisions as we saw it at the time and it is disgusting that fans retort to phoning officials houses.The problem is the scottish game is in the doldrums and it is time that managers payed more attention to some of the inept performances of their players and stopped blaming the refs at every turn. Maybe there wouldn't be so many empty seats in the stands.

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posted Nov 4, 2010

A teams "star" striker misses chance after chance in important games all season while their international "class" defender continually makes howlers.

Conspiracy - no.

It's all the ref's fault.

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