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So England keep momentum heading Down Under

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by Graeme Swanns Cat (U13731773) 22 September 2010
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England move onto the Ashes after a summer which sees them win every series.

Where Pakistan go from here, I have no idea.

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comment by DaveC (U4310400)

posted Sep 23, 2010

As much as England may well have played well, can't help feeling downbeat that again, the umpires mistakes have cost Pakistan big time. Another 2 shocking decisions against Pakistan.
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Are you forgetting, or deliberately ignoring, the clear LBW not given against one of the Pakistan openers in their innings yesterday?

I really didn't see enough from Pakistan's batting lineup yesterday to suggest that umpiring mistakes alone cost them the win.

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posted Sep 23, 2010

Pakistan will go home first and play SA in UAE and then move to NZ for their full tour and finally head for WC. Nothing will happen to them as British medias are just drama and nothing else.

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posted Sep 23, 2010

"Nothing will happen to them"

A couple of them will probably get a bit richer bowling suspect no balls

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posted Sep 23, 2010

Well played England as a Pakistani Fan I can hold my head up high we gave as good as it gets and im very impressed with S Akhtar. Fix or no fix this One days had everything. We can look forward to the World Cup and in the mean time play SA and NZ.

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posted Sep 23, 2010

Where do both teams go from here?

England go down under for an Ashes series that is more finely balanced than I the over-optimism of many people on these boards suggests. Look at the figures for the Australian bowlers on their own turf - they are no mugs, they know the Kooka ball well and they will have huge backing from the fans. Add to that a batting line-up which has a great deal more discipline than England's and they represent formidable opponents. Watson, Katich, Ponting, North etc. know how to accumulate test runs. We have batsmen who are capable of that but who all to often suffer a rush of blood to the head. Hard to get awy from the conclusion that Swanny will be absolutely key in this series. If he's on form - and he seems to always be on form these days - then he could be the difference between the sides.

Where do Pakistan go? Sadly I think little may change. Despite the NotW story appearing convinving, it is a very different matter for the ICC's investigations to turn up absolute proof of wrongdoing if there was any and it is proof that is needed for any bans etc to be handed out. The case of John Higgins is relevant here. Everybody had already assumed his guilt only for him to be found innocent of fixing by the giverning bodies. We shouldn't rush to any judgements too hastily. The biggest damage to Pakistani cricket has been done by Ijaz Butt, whose comments have certainly put the matches against South Africa in peril. Fingers crossed that in a few years time we will see some different faces in the PCB and a team that is exciting and pleasing to watch as any Pakistan side should be.

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comment by SK_SK (U14358343)

posted Sep 23, 2010

Where Pakistan go from here, I have no idea.
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I do. They will go home, give some "statements", participate in talk shows, all of this will be interpreted and portrayed by vernacular press as English 'Sahibs' trying to conspire against Pakistan. Vows of never surrendering to this would be taken vehemently and everything will continue as ever....
Care to put a wager?

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posted Sep 23, 2010

Their bags are packed and heading to the airport. They are leaving the UK for the last time. After embarassing themselves and bringing our great game in to disrepute, they have unduly over-stayed their welcome and are no longer welcome here!

Good riddance!

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posted Sep 23, 2010

Simple pakistan go to prison Where is Bin laden.
Total exclusion for Pakistan from all cricket matters.

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posted Sep 24, 2010

I think the time may have arrived for Pakistan to take a break from world cricket to let this and other issues (such as the security in their country) settle down and get resolved. It's unlikely they will do so voluntarily if Butt's and the High Commissioner's comments are anything to go by - they seem incapable of acknowledging there may be problems in their game. So, perhaps the other test playing countries need to help them have a rest, perhaps by not scheduling any more matches or tours with Pakistan for the foreseeable future; maybe even withdraw invitations to take place in future cup competitions.

I appreciate this would upset the genuine fans but could their game survive another allegation-blighted tour like we've just seen?

I also think that the ECB shouldn't host any more Pakistan home series until Butt and his cronies have left the game. The way they're repaid the ECB's hospitality for the earlier series against Australia is disgusting.

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