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Anyone worried about ownership ??

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by wantno19asap (U14338114) 13 September 2010
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The suppose deadline day on 6th of October will see our club being taken over by RBS or a new owner/owners or most worryingly the Yanks may extend the loan period.No one really knows what is going to happen . What is clear is that unless ownership is settled we will struggle financially which is reflected in the last few transfer windows. We are making profit in transfer windows (by selling players) yet we do not have the means to buy a striker for the last 18 months. Why wait at the last minute to buy a striker when we had the whole summer to buy one ?? We are always after a bergain!

I think the performance on the field this season reflected that as players are not sure which direction the club is heading. We being one of the most famous brand in the world yet there is huge struggle to sell the club because of the asking price of the owners, potential cost to build the whole club is also an issue(new stadium, new players and so on..), not being in the Champions league is also a huge factor.Whatever happens I just hope we will be owned by the right people and will have the best interest in their heart because we deserve much better than what our previous owners has promised us and I include David Moore in that.

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posted Sep 17, 2010

This is my point exactly, you can have both.
Actually Germany has both, which two teams where in the CL final last year? Teams from two coutries that are (so-called) no longer the "Powerhouses of Europe", e.g. Italy and Germany.
The thing is German clubs pick up talent from all across the globe and nuture it, English clubs just buy the supposed "finished article".
How many duds have ManU and Liverpool bought in the last couple of years?
The German clubs punch well above their weight in Europe because they make sure they buy at "sensible prices". Look at Werder Bremen, they are considered a "poor club" in the Bundesliga, but still always manage to get through to the latter stages of the UEFA Cup or make a decent showing in the Champions League.

No, unfortunately it's divided we stand, united you can forget it amongst the English club supporters, unfortunately!

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posted Sep 18, 2010

'When you see how little the season tickets are at these German clubs compared to English teams, and they are prepared to boycott it. It would be great for the English game, if the fans just decided they wouldn't pay 20,30,40,50 etc. a game. It costs 25 for me to see Leeds, in the Championship. But I doubt a full boycott will ever happen for any club.'

AND... do you see German clubs attracting the worlds best players... NO... and even the likes of Bayern Munich are not the powerhouses of Europe they were. Spanish and English clubs are the power in Europe at the moment... because of the money they have.
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Well this is obviously a view of a person who never watches the Bundesliga but yet gives an opinion on it,first off the fans are boycotting the game because of the rate the ticket prices are going up,according to the article it the price has gone up by 8.5 euros which is almost a 1/3rd more than they was paying last year,now let's say the fan's didn't protest and they keep paying there money then if the rates continued to increase at the same rate over the next two years then they would be paying 39 euros in two years time,which is almost 3 times as much as they paid last year.

And as for the Bundesliga having no players then it obviously shows what a limited opinion you have on the league,Bayern have players such as Schweinsteger,Lahm,Ribery and Robben and all four of those are good enough for any side in the world,even players like Raul,Huntelaar,Van Nistelrooy coming over and the league has improved hugely in recent years,of course the Bundesliga doesn't have huge deals like Barcelona/Madrid and the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea but we also have strict financial rules that these clubs should have,all four of the above have huge financial problems and even when Spain and England have all the money you have teams like Mallorca,Portsmouth and Xerez who are basically extinct,I see teams in the Bundesliga like Dortmund and Schalke who have huge debts but unlike the teams above the Bundesliga actually makes sure that they manage these debts and don't jeapordise the club.

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posted Sep 18, 2010

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'When you see how little the season tickets are at these German clubs compared to English teams, and they are prepared to boycott it. It would be great for the English game, if the fans just decided they wouldn't pay 20,30,40,50 etc. a game. It costs 25 for me to see Leeds, in the Championship. But I doubt a full boycott will ever happen for any club.'

AND... do you see German clubs attracting the worlds best players... NO... and even the likes of Bayern Munich are not the powerhouses of Europe they were. Spanish and English clubs are the power in Europe at the moment... because of the money they.
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Maybe if English clubs spent more money developing youth players and bringing them through to the senior teams, they wouldn't feel the need to pay silly money for the latest sensation from the continent / South America or wherever.

Then maybe we also wouldn'rt be complaining about the dearth of talent available to England managers.

Just a thought...

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posted Sep 18, 2010

All of the money in football now & yet we have clubs on the verge of financial ruin - some in & out of administration - sooner or later the bubble has to burst. These players - as good as a minority of them are - are not worth the idiotic wages or the celebrity status that they get. They are no better than you & me, just people doing a job, & most of them can't handle the fame or the money anyway, so it is wasted on them.

The German fans are doing what we should have done years ago - moaned & whined about the prices AND done something about it. We just moan without doing anything. Can you imagine the heart attacks in the board room if the Kop was empty one week!!!! Salary & transfer fee caps should have been enforced years ago but no-one had the guts to do it & we are all suffering now.

Young talent was always scouted from the lower divisions & the money raised kept the clubs in business. We need to revert back to this or clubs will die - along with my mate's dad who lost out to cancer yesterday, RIP Michael - and the game will lose it's roots.

We are however getting off track - Liverpool Football Club is not & will never be worth 600 million & I do not understand how people can borrow money to buy a club & that debt be put on the club. If you borrow money, you owe it. What you buy does not owe it - or am I completely wrong, does my motorbike owe the finance I took out to buy it instead of me owing it??? The club needs to be sold to someone who cares about the football, not a business man looking to make a fast buck like last time. Let's face it, if the new owner that we will hopefully be getting soon does care about the football & puts that right, then the money situation will be taken care of almost by default.

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posted Sep 18, 2010

Anyone that watches German football will understand that the clubs must make all their money by the amount of beer they sell before DURING and after the game!! I say 'prost' to drinking on the terraces! smiley hic

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posted Sep 18, 2010

People have missed the point & turned this into English vs German football. It is about the German people (& the French) taking direct action that can make a difference instead of just moaning about it saying it won't work.

Lets get the BOYCOTT going boys. Hicks & Gilliet out NOW!!!!!!

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posted Sep 18, 2010

I have to admit the Liverpool fans have a much bigger reason to boycott their club because these fickle United followers were quite happy a few years ago when the Glacers arrived bragging as they usually do about the boring myth of hw their club is the biggest in the World. For Liverpool fans I say good luck to the United fans I say " if you cant hack the Glazer family then TOUGH!"

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posted Sep 18, 2010

Lets have it right where money is concerned Manchester United Football Club were the founder members of GREED!!!! let me put that to bed here and now! United's fans were happy to take rich investors on board now they despise them --- just go and lie in that bed the one you made?

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posted Sep 19, 2010

Boycotting at any of the big clubs will never have any effect

5,000 fans can march down the street with big banners to get a message across, but if they boycotted a match you can guarantee there are 50,000 others who will happily pay the money and take their seat.

Net effect = nothing. If I were a club owner I would see a smattering of disgruntled fans accompanied by a large majority of people happy to hand over their money. I wouldn't be worried in the slightest.

As regards German football, I have only seen one match in Germany (at Dortmund funnily enough) but also spent the 06 World Cup travelling the country and the fans are just so much more hospitable, even the hooligans.

My pal and I befriended a couple of Italian guys living in Hannover who invited us back to theirs before going out on the lash and all their friends were burberry wearing hooligans who wouldn't stop singing 'three lions' at us mockingly. But it was all in good spirit and we had a great night out.

Beer on the terraces is a great idea in Germany, because it's a part of their culture to drink and be merry.

In England, it's drink and be rowdy. So again, something that would never work in english football.

As for Liverpool, until it's signed, sealed and delivered, we're stuck with Pinky and Perky in charge so this endless debating is pointless, really.

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posted Sep 19, 2010

don't fear the reaper

Well said; totally agree.

So funny to listen to the Man Utd fans moan and moan about the debt etc. when they would be more than happy if they were spending 50 million every season. I'm sure there are some out there who are genuinely concerned about their club but most on here are just plastic fans who think it's Championship Manager or something.

As for boycotting, never going to happen; United could fill their ground up with tourists and casual fans - it's not like they have a hardcore support of 75,000 is it? Too big for their own good.

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