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by gazdadude (U11285145) 03 September 2010
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I think its time for Toshack to go he promised resukts this campaign we looked terrible at the back i'm dreading us plsying england

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comment by SWF (U14578763)

posted Sep 9, 2010

And when the next manager fails? What then? Another round of criticism? Wales has a small population, how can you reasonably expect to find qualification easy? Toshack should stay, and the people of Wales should get on with backing their team, and actually Montenegro are a decent side, look at their result against Bulgaria.
Anyways i warn against giving it to Giggs or Hartson as their only agenda is to stop England qualifying - Coleman would show a more mature approach, that of trying to achieve the difficult - qualification!

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comment by Liam (U10357755)

posted Sep 9, 2010

Why is everyone blaming Toshack? Wales are a very poor international side & results have proven this year in & year out. When was the last time they did really well in either the World or European competitions? Just qualifying is a major ahcievement for them. Any team / country that has Robbie Savage as a top player is obviously doomed to failure as he is run of the mill only. And Ryan Giggs? One of my favourite players but he only ever turned up for major games & he certainly isn't ready for management. The next manager should be realistic & tell the FAW that qualifying will be very difficult if not impossible & that he should start immediately to rebuild for the 2014 world cup.

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comment by spovah (U14271398)

posted Sep 9, 2010

I don't think that Ryan Giggs should ever be considered as a manager of Wales. He walked away from the side when we needed him most. Wales are a poor international side and many of our problems are a scaled-down version of the English National Team. Both teams find it difficult to play/win well when the "real" pressure is applied and big players become small contributors during vital matches. I know, unlike England, we are a little short on resources; maybe we can have a huge effort to trace the ancestry of some of England's cast-offs again. Ah!,the days of Vinnie Jones....

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posted Sep 9, 2010

A side that could've had Davies, Koumas and possibly Giggs in midfield instead of Vaughan, Ledley and Edwards.
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I watched Koumas when he played for Tranmer and thought what a talent. Since then I have watxhed him and thought what a wasted talent. Now he's not first choice in a championship side.
Giggs, for all the undoubted skill he has couldn't be bothered turning out for Wales on many an occassion with mystery injuries that suddenly cleared up when a Man Utd game came along. Rose tinted glasses.

Maybe Wales on paper should have done better but football isn't played on paper.

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posted Sep 9, 2010

Is this clown the worst manager ever?! Crikey, it's just one massive failure after the next. Give it up.

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posted Sep 9, 2010

Everyone blaming Toshack, well he is the manager and managers must take full responsibility for their team. His managerial record in league football is irrelevant, prime examples Sven and Capello for England. He looks tired and appears to lack the necessary drive and ambition to lead Wales.

There have been many so called minnows who have had magnificent campaigns because the team has been organised and have looked like they are enjoying international football. I would put N Ireland below Wales in player options but they do perform and get results under Worthington and Sanchez before. Jack Charlton and the Rep of Ireland the list is endless. None of those managers could be described as a genius in club management.

They looked a team devoid of direction against Montenegro and indeed they are what Wales should be looking at to emulate their success. For sure qualification should be the aim everytime but lets just start with a team who can play decent football and be hard to beat.

I don't believe any national side has to fail because of the size of population, Uruguay has been mentioned and is a prime example. I very much doubt Montenegro will qualify but they are heading in the right direction.

Let's just hope the FAW get it right this time and appoint a manager with the qualities needed and not one that is seeking comfort before retirement.

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posted Sep 9, 2010

Yeah agree with above post. One thing I would have to say that Irish teams have in spades is passion. We regularly bat way out of our league based purely on that. I am not winding up at all but I have to say I don't really see that with the Welsh team. In rugby yes obviously. But football wise no. There is a reason Wales have never made it to a single tournament. I think whoever comes in has to be able to set that dressing room on fire as well as be tactically astute - in international football passion gets you a long way. Look at England during the WC for an example of how a lack of it ends in miserable disgraced failure even if on paper you boast a supposedly superior squad.

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comment by Steve (U13936139)

posted Sep 9, 2010

A side that could've had Davies, Koumas and possibly Giggs in midfield instead of Vaughan, Ledley and Edwards.
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I watched Koumas when he played for Tranmer and thought what a talent. Since then I have watxhed him and thought what a wasted talent. Now he's not first choice in a championship side.
Giggs, for all the undoubted skill he has couldn't be bothered turning out for Wales on many an occassion with mystery injuries that suddenly cleared up when a Man Utd game came along. Rose tinted glasses.

Maybe Wales on paper should have done better but football isn't played on paper.

But, the point is they are all significantly better than Vaughan, Ledley and Edwards.

We very played badly on the night, and almost got a point.

With the quality of those three - we would have almost certainly got a better result, even if if they played badly.

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comment by Steve (U13936139)

posted Sep 9, 2010

Everyone blaming Toshack, well he is the manager and managers must take full responsibility for their team. His managerial record in league football is irrelevant, prime examples Sven and Capello for England. He looks tired and appears to lack the necessary drive and ambition to lead Wales.

There have been many so called minnows who have had magnificent campaigns because the team has been organised and have looked like they are enjoying international football. I would put N Ireland below Wales in player options but they do perform and get results under Worthington and Sanchez before. Jack Charlton and the Rep of Ireland the list is endless. None of those managers could be described as a genius in club management.

They looked a team devoid of direction against Montenegro and indeed they are what Wales should be looking at to emulate their success. For sure qualification should be the aim everytime but lets just start with a team who can play decent football and be hard to beat.

I don't believe any national side has to fail because of the size of population, Uruguay has been mentioned and is a prime example. I very much doubt Montenegro will qualify but they are heading in the right direction.

Let's just hope the FAW get it right this time and appoint a manager with the qualities needed and not one that is seeking comfort before retirement.


ok

Toshacks negative attitude and demeanour can hadly instill the team with confidence.

He's a beaten man before the ball has been kicked.

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comment by Steve (U13936139)

posted Sep 9, 2010

Yeah agree with above post. One thing I would have to say that Irish teams have in spades is passion. We regularly bat way out of our league based purely on that. I am not winding up at all but I have to say I don't really see that with the Welsh team. In rugby yes obviously. But football wise no. There is a reason Wales have never made it to a single tournament. I think whoever comes in has to be able to set that dressing room on fire as well as be tactically astute - in international football passion gets you a long way. Look at England during the WC for an example of how a lack of it ends in miserable disgraced failure even if on paper you boast a supposedly superior squad.


And it is exactly what we are missing.

Completely agree and we ahd passion under Hughes.

The next manager needs to have that and breed confidence.

And not at all happy with Jacket and Coleman being linked as favourites.

If Jacket gets it that's Morrison up front for the majority of his reign.


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