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ATP Points Spy - Toronto Masters

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by Cogen (U10240152) 09 August 2010
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Toronto is the first significant tournament since Wimbledon, and after quite a lengthy gap, it will be the first time many of the stars have played competitively since leaving the grass of SW19.

There are 1000 points available for the winner in Toronto, and the event immediately precedes another Masters tournament in Cincinnati. Together the pair will serve as a warm-up to the highly anticipated final Slam of the year at Flushing Meadows.

Unofficial Rankings Table:
This is a 'live' representation of the total points each player would leave with if they gained no further points in the tournament. A bold name indicates the player is still active in the tournament and has the potential to gain more points.

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Old
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PlayerOld
Pts
Drop
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Will Move
11Nadal1074518036010925
23Federer67951806007220 Up 1
32Djokovic69051803607085 Dn 1
44Murray5305100010005305
55Soderling47400904830
66Davydenko4285180904195
77Berdych3780101803950
89Verdasco347590453430 Up 1
98Del Potro377060003170 Dn 1
1010Tsonga345536003095
1112Ferrer310045103065 Up 1
1213Cilic289010102890 Up 1
1311Roddick323536002875 Dn 2
1414Youzhny272590452680
1515Melzer247010102470
1617Ljubicic2200002200 Up 1
Notable Others...
1716Almagro221070452185 Dn 1

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Analysis:

RESULT - MURRAY RETAINS ROGERS CUP TITLE


Murray successfully reached the final to keep his no.4 spot. He then went on to defeat Federer in the final and defend his full points total - a move which will give him a small margin over Soderling going into Cincinnati.

At the top, Nadal was a country mile clear and could not be caught this week.

Djokovic and Federer were much more closely matched, and having both reached the semi-finals they faced a direct head-to-head for the no.2 spot. Federer came through that match and will now rise one place.

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posted Aug 16, 2010

...except that if Sod loses in R3 and Murray in R2 then Murray still gets fourth. And if Sod loses in the QF and Andy in R3 then Andy gets fourth.

What I wrote above is a complete description of the sceanrio. It doesn't need any embellishment.

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posted Aug 16, 2010

that's why I said at least a round further... because he needs to make up 125 points

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posted Aug 16, 2010

Yes, but "at least a round further" doesn't actually give you any information, which is why I did the calculations you did first and then did the further analysis to come up with a COMPLETE picture, in its simplest terms.

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posted Aug 16, 2010

Is Djokovic facing Nalby in round 2 or later?

Considering the Djoker's luck previously in matters related to ranking, I would not be surprised if he lost in R2 itself, leaving Federer an easy task to maintain 2nd rank.

As a Tennis fan, I think its appropriate that Federer should remain at no 3 though. That would make sure he and Murray (currently looking like the 2 best players on HC) meet only in finals.

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posted Aug 16, 2010

In all likelihood Djokovic will play Troicki in R2 (Stepanek's still pretty rusty), which ought to be a breeze. Nalbandian might be waiting in R3, although it could be Ljubicic or Isner. Then Soderling in the quarters, although Lu or Roddick might make it through there.

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posted Aug 16, 2010

The quirks of the rankings...Nando and Cilic move up one...

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posted Aug 16, 2010

Cilic has already lost that gain though laugh.

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posted Aug 16, 2010

dont see why Federer should be seen as one of the top players right now. Lost QF Wimby and lost to Murray. Scraped past Berdych in Toronto. Doesn't make him a form player in my mind. Don't forget he was one hold of serve away from a first round exit at Wimby.

Nadal and Murray are clearly the top 2 right now. Nadal winning 32/34 matches and Murray going SF, F and W in his last tourneys including a GS and a MS

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comment by vbrege (U13804448)

posted Aug 16, 2010

Don't forget he was one hold of serve away from a first round exit at Wimby.
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Rafa was very close to losing too, against Petshzner (I messed up the spelling I guess) but he held on, which is important. That made him won the thing.

You make "scraping past Berdych" look like child's play. You should see the match to understand how well Berdych was playing.

This is HC now and just because Rafa won 32 of last 34 matches, most of them on clay, does not matter much. He had to fight hard against someone like Kohlshreiber and lost quite easily to Murray. He is a top player, yes but not top 2. Currently the top 2 players have to be Murray and Federer, in that order. We can revise it after Cincy of course.

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posted Aug 16, 2010

I watched all the matches in Toronto and there is no doubt the Berdych match was tight and Tomas could have won.

Compare that with Murray beating Nalbandian 2&2 and nadal in straight sets.

I'm not saying beating Berdych counts for little, but doing it in a tight 3 setter does not make you 'one of the top 2 players on tour right now' or whatever was claimed about Roger

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