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Can we block Wilshere and Gibbs' call up?

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by ClubbaLang (U7280256) 05 August 2010
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It's widely being reported that Kieran Gibbs and Jack Wilshere are set to be called up to the England squad for England's meaningless friendly against Hungary.

Is there any way the club can block the pair from going? Neither play occupies a place in the Arsenal first team and while no doubt they will be knocking on the door this season - do we really need our players to be lauded as the next thing big things by the tabloids before destroying them if things don't go to plan.

I say tell Capello to sod off until both these guys have a season in the first team squad.

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posted Aug 5, 2010

The players you are talking about are on another planet to Wilshire, Jack shows some nice touches is no shrinking violet, but lacks the pace and top quality to be in the company you are comparing him with.

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You don't need pace in central midfield, Where you need pace is on the wings to stretch teams. Players like Wilshere, Fabregas, Xavi and Zidane don't rely pace.

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posted Aug 5, 2010

The alternative is to pick Terry, Gerrard, James, Lampard and Ferdinand. Personally I want these players in now and we can build for 2018. Face facts, we will not be ready to win 2014 so this gives us 8 years to really make something special. Gibbs, Walcott, Wilshere, Hart, Rodwell and Gosling look mentally and phyically capable of becoming exceptional players.

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posted Aug 5, 2010

I'm happy for Capello to look elsewhere if he brings in players he feels are worthy from having seen them play and most importantly because THEY FIT IN HIS SYSTEM.

I'm not going to say that Capello is a bad manager but he is a club manager rather than an international manager. He has a very rigid tactic which the current England side does not fit! At club level he played 2 solid defensive minded midfielders in the centre, 2 fast, skillful wingers, a target striker and a shadow striker. A good, solid formation and well organised by Capello but only because at club level he can buy players to fit his system. We often saw England turn out with Barry and Lampard as holding midfielders, given no freedom to run forward and create the way they do for their clubs, we saw Heskey play (far too) many games (in my opinion) as the role of the target striker needed to be fulfilled, which also pushed Rooney back into a supporting role, again 1 that doesn't suit his style of play! Argue all you want that as professional footballers they should be able to adapt but when it comes to footballers, petulance be thy name...

If Capello decides to play youngesters then I want to see him play those that fit his system. He could play Rodwell and Huddlestone rather than Barry and Lampard to hold things in midfield.

... But when it comes to wilshire, a talented, young attacking midfielder, there is no point in bringing him if he's just going to be stifled as a holding midfielder in the same formation!!!

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posted Aug 5, 2010

I love all these comments like the article writer - 'Wilshere isn't ready yet'

What, not ready to follow in the esteemed boots of recent England midfield legends, Lampard, Gerrard and Barry?!

We got the not ready comments over Owen in 1998 and Rooney in 2004. Both played their best ever tournaments at 18... One day these dense England fans will finally recognise that their readiness is not based on number of Premier League appearances... arguably its the inverse relationship.

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comment by Skylynx (U1798828)

posted Aug 5, 2010

I for one am hoping Wilshere not only gets called up, but starts for England, this is what friendlies are for. We need to build for the future and despite me saying that's what the Prem should be for, just blood them now so we can see if the next crop of kids are good enough. No more Lampard or Gerrard ever again for England, I'm sick of these two muppets who only want the fame when they play for England.

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posted Aug 6, 2010

If it was Euro 2012 tomorrow, then i would be inclined to say don't take Wilshire. However it's only a friendly against (no disrepect intended) Hungary. These are the games to try out youngsters. The games for Arsenal will come for both Wilshire and Gibbs. If players like this, including Rodwell, Delfouneso and some others don't get a chance in games like then when will they get it? Does anyone out there seriously think we should take the likes of Gerrard, Lamps, Terry etc to the Euros?

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posted Aug 7, 2010

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<You don't need pace in central midfield, Where you need pace is on the wings to stretch teams. Players like Wilshere, Fabregas, Xavi and Zidane don't rely pace.>

There you go again, comparing a albeit quite talented lad who cant get into the Arsenal first team on a regular basis, to Cesc, Xabi, & Zidane.
Get real mate, of course you dont need to be Husain Bolt in central midfield, but Jack is slightly one paced.
Please compare like with like, Jack is light years away from the players you are comparing him with.

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posted Aug 8, 2010

Wilshere is young but very talented.lampard and gerred terry just play for fame. and terry is a over rated player, we need to bulid a new generation of footballers

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posted Aug 8, 2010

There you go again, comparing a albeit quite talented lad who cant get into the Arsenal first team on a regular basis, to Cesc, Xabi, & Zidane.
Get real mate, of course you dont need to be Husain Bolt in central midfield, but Jack is slightly one paced.
Please compare like with like, Jack is light years away from the players you are comparing him with

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Wilshere is 18, he will be a regular in the arsenal team within the next 2 years. The reason i compared him to Cesc and Xavi is because they play in the same position as Wilshere (playmakers).

Pace is a great asset but acceleration is more important, he is quick over the first 5 yards with good acceleration.
This is what he said in an interview he gave to the times (December 2009)
ďIíve got a very good burst and thatís important to how I play. We work in the gym, doing lunges and that, to help your first bit of power. I wouldnít be beating Theo in any longer sprints but over the first five yards itís quite tight.Ē

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/arsenal/article6968341.ece

This what he can do;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzogsNv2uWY

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posted Aug 8, 2010

i have read most of the comments and thats ok but keep out the likes of brown i mention only one but they have had there chance and failed <redwine>

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