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Boks bashed by All Blacks

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by GevilDevil (U13739188) 10 July 2010
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It's not often you watch one of these classic encounters and can't mention how brilliant the All Black backline was. Their handling was poor with numerous errors, this isn't where the match was won.

Again, it's not often that the Bok forwards are out muscled be it at the ruck or lineout, and the All Black forwards were supreme in this regard.

Wave after wave the AB's wore down the already tired Bok legs, hastened by the sin binning of Bakkies Botha in the early stages of the game.

From there on it was catch up rugby for the Boks who in all honesty appeared pretty shell shocked, unable to implement the kick chase game of last year or the tactical supremacy that they usually hold in the lineout.

There will be a lot of disappointment in South Africa after this result, not just the loss itself but the manner of the loss, all of the Bok star players were out performed by a team that appeared to have more hunger and most importantly accuracy.

Thankfully I have only a week to wait to see if the Boks can turn this around, if they don't, the Tri Nations trophy will be moving back to Australasia.

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posted Jul 11, 2010

anonmattyt-director of rugby (U11218222) Having read your posts here you do have a very weird perception of what a good rugby team should be. NZ have proved that SA can be easily beaten with the right tactical play so they clearly are world champs beaters unless or course you have your head in the sand. SA can make all the excuses as they like the fact are that they should be very worried as the ABS now having the mental and seeming physical advantage

France, New Zealand and SA are the teams that should end up in the WRC final.

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posted Jul 11, 2010

there is still not much between the two teams. We play the faster more expansive ghame anbd now it looks like we have a team to finally take it on up front which we missed last couple of years.

I knew not to read into last years results too much as we had between 5-11 injuries for every match last year. This year we have most back and with couple of players to be added next year we are lookin ok.

By the same token thoug leaving steyn out of the sa team was shocking. He killed us last year and with brousow and du preez returning sa should be a little better although the guys they are replacing are pretty damn good too.

The thing where we inproved on the most though was lineouts. We haven't one so many against the throw against sa in years. On another day though it could be a different story. Defnitely the two best side in the world at the moment but either side could win on their day at full strength.

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posted Jul 11, 2010

Gevil...NZ backs played poorly? you were watching a different game to me...with LITTLE chances available through your rush defence(often offside I might add)...Ma'a Nonu and Mils were great...causing all kinds of havoc and making inroads when-ever they touched the ball..the other backs were all solid and eager to get the ball..don't think they turned over any ball and what more can you ask?? Tell me of a high stakes game with this kind of pressure was exerted on both teams and there wasn't a back dropping the odd ball? Well done the AB's...too good on the day. Sth Africa will play better next week,,,because they weren't allowed to play this week and will try different things next week. You will be better for having Botha out anyone. What a boofhead that bloke is. Thorn and Botha should get the gloves on a get into the ring...Thorn to knock him out in round one! I;d have Thorn anyday of the week! What a player and at 35years young!

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comment by Segnes (U1710014)

posted Jul 11, 2010

I found several surprises in the match:

1. Carter actually played like a fly-half, and how well he unleashed his outside backs when he relinquished his "go-it-alone" role and gave them the ball with some space in which to pick their spots!

2. Cowan's passing went to pieces after Botha bruised his forehead on Cowan's cranium, which is unusual, because Cowan usually absorbs punishment quite well. Even more surprising was the quality - or lack thereof - of his tactical kicking later on when NZ needed to close the game down. If he wasn't concussed, I'd bet that he's jeopardised his place in the team.

3. Carter, on the other hand, took over the job of closing down the game - something he has seemed constitutionally incapable of doing well - and pulled it off with aplomb.

4. I'd been given to understand that Kirchner was a poor selection at full-back, but if RSA has a much better candidate, he'd have to be a world-beater, because Kirchner struck me as being one of the more effective RSA outside backs on the day.

5. The defensive alignment of the RSA midfield was occasionally woeful, especially as Nonu's crash-balling talents and tactics shouldn't have come as a surprise. I'd expect RSA to have sorted that out by the next meeting, though.

The most surprised person seemed at times to be the referee, who seemed a little overwhelmed by the pace and ferocity of the play at times and made some errors, including getting in the trafic in a most amateurish way. Frankly, there were moments when I felt he was asking for a little of what Botha meted out to Cowan.

There were also some telling non-surprises, 'though it was a surprise to see them all come to light in the same game:

1. Mealamu and co. kept the front row low to the deck and negated Smit's weight, apart from making Steenkamp look very uncomfortable. It has taken some time for international teams to wise up to this tactic, and the advantage which doing so brought to NZ was crucial. Obviously, RSA will be applying themselves to preventing a repetition, but in the meantime it seems that NZ has at last found a solution to the tight-head quandary.

2. Donnelly challenged and exposed the myth of Matfield's invincibility in the line-out in the most direct way: by challenging Matfield to stand his ground. It is amazing that it has taken so long to spot the obvious weaknesses in Matfield's make-up. Obviously, RSA will look to plaster over the crack with all speed by surrounding Matfield with less compromising souls in the line-out, but I think the cat's out of the bag now.

3. Spies was entirely neutralised by Burger's failure to dominate the loose play all on his own. It happens from time to time - for instance when the Pretoria franchise lost to Queensland in the "Super fourten" tournament - and clearly it can be engineered at international level too. Clearly the new flank won't keep Smith out for long, and perhaps the RSA selectors wil look for an eighth man who doesn't rely as heavily on his supporting cast as Spies does.

4. Du Preez was missed badly, despite a gutsy display by January.

I felt above all that the NZ think-tank had done its work and produced a brief which, applied with sufficient commitment, would win the match, thereas RSA, playing with at least an equal meaure of commitment, simply didn't have a formula for taking on NZ beyond "more of the same". No surprises there either, I guess: success can engender blindness.

It will be interesting to see how both teams move on from here.

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posted Jul 11, 2010

Great forward effort by the AB's & thoroughly deserved the win - but SA will be back. Easy to see why these two are the best two rugby teams in the world.

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posted Jul 11, 2010

3. Carter, on the other hand, took over the job of closing down the game - something he has seemed constitutionally incapable of doing well - and pulled it off with aplomb.

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hmmm don't think you have ever watched carter play... I think you should go over and have a look at how many games carter has lost... not many... and of the ones we have won see how many he played a major role... quite alot... it's armchair pundits like you that try and cast their minds to games like the France game and think to themselves... carter didn't close the game off... without actually realising he came off injured... while we were winning...

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posted Jul 11, 2010

Take no notice Kiwi, he fancies himself as a bit of a Stephen Jones.

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posted Jul 12, 2010

Gevil_Devil, each member of the All Blacks backline contributed with a high work-rate and high intensity - throughout the 80 minutes. They contributed as much as the forwards in this win. Well Done All Blacks, - a cracker of a game.

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posted Jul 12, 2010

Segnes, ... you were surprised because D.C. didn't use "tactical kicking" to "close the game down" because we "needed to"? ...

Well, son, I have to disagree to the ABs "needing to close the game down" at any stage, on this occasion. ...

I base this on the fact that they maintained a high work-rate, high intensity, and high skill level, - across the paddock, - throughout the whole 80 minutes. ...

They kept the scoreboard ticking over, making a solid statement to their opponents, and to their fans, and on this occasion, the ABs were never in much danger of losing.

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posted Jul 12, 2010

With the appalling track record of Bakkies Botha I find it inconcievable that he only received a nine week ban for his latest incident of foul play. Do not the govening body ever think of protecting other players thast are normally on the end of his blatant disregard of the rules. He by now should have been banned for a minimum of 52 weeks. Perhaps then he would obey the rules that all other players play the game by.

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