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World Cup USA
by Moothead2 (U14274705) 23 June 2010
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From an England fan, well done! Even though we will most likely have to face Argentina in the Quarters if we get past the last 16, I'm glad you lot got through after having two perfectly good goals disallowed and still fighting on, even coming back from 2-0 down which should have ended 3-2!

Good luck in the next round!

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posted Jun 24, 2010

I am an admirer of this US team, they keep it simple, play to their strengths, hyper-fit and well organised with an entertaining streak thrown in too.
Howard, Bradley, Dempsey and Donovan have genuine quality.
Can see the game v Ghana being quite a spectacle.

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posted Jun 24, 2010

Lets not forget the USA got through on an England goalkeeping error. I think you'll see how exciting they are when they come up against a top nation. Just as they did against England when they had very few chances. Ghana should beat them but probably won't. Uraguay surely won't suddenly implode with the pressure of a quarter final but might.
So yes maybe the US will make it to the semi's which is a joke but just the way this cookie has crumbled.....

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posted Jun 24, 2010

It shouldn't be a surprise that the old guard of the English professional game still sneer at football in the US. Never mind that many of the UK's best new coaches and sports scientists are deserting these shores for the USA, never mind that in the area of psychological preparation, the US is streets ahead of the English game (Harry aside!), never mind that the US has a far more scientific approach to injury prevention. Never mind an African team progressing to the final... the writing is on the wall.

My post of 19th June:

"Some of us predicted exactly what would happen (to England in the World Cup) 10 months ago, after a full season of premiership and champions league football.

Not only are players displaying symptoms of physical tiredness but they're also demonstrating mental exhaustion. Not that anyone in the world of English football recognises that tuning the mind is a deal more complex than the numpty methods being used in our national game. The brand of sports psychology being used in English football (if at all) belongs in a GCSE paper, not in professional sport.

My professional advice: take them out for a good night out and let them chill completely but do it quickly!

My tip: watch USA go from strength to strength. Footballing immaturity aside, the USA is a nation that fully understands how to tune the mind and isn't embarrassed about dealing with it."

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comment by JMcK (U9742541)

posted Jun 24, 2010

"Lets not forget the USA got through on an England goalkeeping error. I think you'll see how exciting they are when they come up against a top nation. Just as they did against England when they had very few chances. Ghana should beat them but probably won't. Uraguay surely won't suddenly implode with the pressure of a quarter final but might.
So yes maybe the US will make it to the semi's which is a joke but just the way this cookie has crumbled....."
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Pathetic sour grapes. If the USA are so mediocre, why couldn't the "mighty" England win the group?

The Americans arguably won a extra point because of Rob Green's blunder, but they were robbed of TWO points by the referee's blunder in the US-Slovenia game!

They got through because of hard work and no little talent. Congratulations to them, from a Scotland fan.

(By the way, before I get accused of being Anti-English, I know that not all England fans are like spudseven)

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comment by mweller (U6882242)

posted Jun 24, 2010

I appreciate all the comments, and for the most part the english fans have been fair in their assesment--some I believe are unable to recognize that the US isn't the same in football as they have been in the past. Not saying we're at an elite level, but certainly not the "pub" level some still believe.

I personally think it is good for football in general--just as I have enjoyed the rest of the world embracing basketball to the point where the US winning gold in the Olympics is no longer a given. I personally didn't enjoy the Barcelona games where our pros were beating teams handily (though I'm sure some Americans did)--much more enjoyable watching teams of supposedly inferior qualtiy give it there all and having a chance of reward. Now the US is having to actually play and take opponents seriously, and I much more enjoy that, even if it means we take bronze (as we did two Olympics back).

My opinion is that some football fans in England should embrace the competition, and enjoy the fact the US (and Slovenia, Algeria, etc.) may actually be able to play the sport instead of being so dismissive. Believe me from my experience following US basketball, winning titles is a hollow victory if you don't have to work for it.

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posted Jun 24, 2010

First off, the US has far exceeded the expectations of not only the punters and the media, but moreso, its supporters. I agree with the fact that the psychological aspect of the team coupled with the physical has played a significant role in how they've accomplished what they have so far.

Second, while my wife and I were in London for the US v England match, the media and supporters completely lambasted your 3 Lions for securing a draw vs. the US. The tirades went on for days on end, moaning and whinging about the draw, with the same being done after the Algeria match. English supporters in S. Africa had the gall to sit there and blame the English side for a waste of 6,000 quid on travel expenses to watch them play. Not only is that laughable; it's truly pathetic. Can you imagine if every supporter who flew to S. Africa had that mentality? Completely childish and IMHO, THAT display is bad for the spread of the game.

Further, these "supporters" continuously stated after each match they thought England would win by 3 or 4-nil margins, even when they weren't playing up to their true potential. England were clearly tired physically and mentally. When they came against opposition that wasn't allowing them to score, you could tell the mentality of the team changed.

Not only are countries like the USA progressing in football, but even minnows like New Zealand and Honduras are doing the same. Their players are featuring abroad in various foreign leagues. I think the old vanguard of football supporters are refusing to accept the fact that football is advancing in this day and age. Here's some advice: deal with it and move on. We're no longer in the days of yor when only a select few countries dominate the sport.

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posted Jun 24, 2010

From the perspective of a US supporter I take pride in reading comments comparing my side to a "Pub team after a heavy night" What a blow to ones ego should your side not be victorious against the minnow like USofA. ---laughing

The upside of being a US fan in the States is the complete absence of the boorish long winded talk you Brits are force fed from the English press about your team. When team USA tops the National News in this Country -as it did the other night- there really is some positive momentum building behind the scenes.

This great stage is where the dreamers come to convert the disbelievers. Get over it.

Good luck against Germany.. I have a feeling you may actually pull out a victory....

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posted Jun 24, 2010

vince noirs trousers (U14093743)

Take a bow, that man !
Agree 100%

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posted Jun 24, 2010

First of all, thank you for the kind words about our progress. We in the US still have work to do but it is nice to get the kind of respect that is earned. I'm proud that my national team earns plaudits from overseas the hard way.

We know that we are definitely not the most skillful side, but we are not bad and we have proven that we can put up a fight against anyone. In the United States we consistently refer to "intangibles" that our best athletes possess - heart, leadership, poise, charisma, luck, self-motivation, raging desire to win, etc. Talent isn't enough.

We'll see how things go - I hope we perform as we did last year in the Confederations Cup, much better as the knockout stages came along. If we made the semis it would be absolutely huge.

I've got belief that England can beat Germany and I hope you do. Beckenbauer is an extremely annoying human being and really, hearing him speak makes me hope that you annihilate them, with Rooney and the rest finally coming good.

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posted Jun 25, 2010

First, good luck to the US and England. The US team, to me, still has a very shaky defense. The only central defender who's halfway decent is Gooch, and he's been injured.

They've done this well thanks to Donovan, above all, then Dempsey, Howard and their other attackers. Having a player who somehow is able to take control is rare, and Donovan's been doing that.

They do one thing better than any other team I've seen: go from the beginning of the counterattack to shooting in the minimum possible time. The passes towards open space always seem perfect, and everyone runs at top speed.

The game is growing the right way, from the small children up. Football has been one of the big two or three sports for them for a couple of decades now, partly because it works so well for players of any level. A pack of little kids have a great time chasing the ball around, even if they're not always clear which direction it should be going. It's simpler and therefore more fun for them than than the other US sports.

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