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Froch fought the wrong fight

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by jimdig (U10171369) 25 April 2010
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Firstly, much respect to Froch and Kessler for a great fight. But I think Carl fought the wrong fight. He's not a back foot fighter, and he fell into Kesslers rhythm for the first half of the fight round 5 excluded. I thought Froch had finally woke up in the 5th and also felt that the knockdown was legitimite (it was a punch that caught him about the shoulder when he was off balance).

But the 5th to me showed that Froch had the power to back Kessler up, he was never going to outbox kessler, he should have forced him onto the backfoot more.

Anyway, Froch's jab is back in working order, it was missing in the dirrell and taylor fights, it was straight and accurate, shame it was mostly being used to keep Kessler away, rather than setting up openings to exploit.

The 8th saw carl rocked, although it caught him flush on the nose, I thought the follow through caught him in the nuts, buckling his legs (watched on a average stream, so could be way off the mark).

All in all, I thought that the later rounds showed that Froch had a slight power edge over Kessler, and that the flat footed Froch's best tactic would have been ala Pascal, i.e stand his ground, he was never gonna out box off the back foot (easy for me to say, I wouldn't stand and trade with Kessler).

I honestly think Froch will get Ko'd by Abraham, His defense is too tight and there is no way that Froch is slick enough to avoid his power. And for me, Abraham has the most power in the tournment.

By the way I scored it Froch losing by 2, and thought the knockdown should have made it a 1 round fight, I know my above review seems critical (as the fight was close, and home fan chearing defintely sways the close rounds).

I think it was Froch's last chance, at least if he does bow out after Abraham (of which I would like to be proved wrong), a fight with Bute must be on the cards.

Comments and ridicule welcome.

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posted Apr 25, 2010

I don't think Froch was 100% Jimdig. Although Kessler came forward in the first four rounds I though Froch was catching him with enough punch. I thought Froch while not working hard enough but was just shading things. I thought Kessler while aggresive looked a bit flat and slow - he has been a slow starter so that could be the excuse.

I reckon Froch might have watched the Ward v Kessler fight and thought he could fight off the back foot like Ward and then pile in when he got an opening. The thing is Froch never jumped on Kessler when he did land a few punches.

Froch seemed to tire badly in the middle rounds and I would question was he fully prepared for a full on 12 round fight. Froch just didn't look to have the energy to deal with a high output fighter like Kessler.

It's worth considering that out of the 5 fights in the Super 6 so far nobody has won away from home. Kessler was nervous before Taylor and fought poorly and I wonder if Froch is a fighter that doesn't travel well.

Abraham was also poor against Dirrell away from home but I think Abs is a better fighter that Froch. My feeling, though, is that it will take a knock out for Abraham to beat Froch at home especially if the fight is in the City Ground.

Froch v Abraham is a do or die fight for Froch with Froch fighting for his career. Abraham will probably go through with 3 poinrs already in the bag so the pressure is really on Froch.

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comment by jimdig (U10171369)

posted Apr 25, 2010

88, I said he hit Kessler on the shoulder. It was a messy inaccurate combo, but I think it was a punch that capitilised on Kessler being off balance.

Apart from that, I'd have to agree, with everything everyone has posted, volcano, you kinda summed up what I was trying to say in a much more concise way.

Big props to Froch though, you couldn't ask for more out of him. I don't think he'll get the Abraham fight at home though, Hennissey is a s**t promotor, It'll be in berlin with no tv contract. Carl really deserves better.

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comment by jimdig (U10171369)

posted Apr 25, 2010

Strong, Good analysis. I thought Froch looked a little Lethargic too, and I was suprised that he to me he was looking that way from the start.
I'm not sure that it was team tactics though, as his corner were telling him to bet into it from the start. They were telling him to keep circling to the left, so that Kessler couldn't plant his feet with the big right, which Froch was doing, but he just didn't go forward in the first 4. I thought his Jab and defense (suprisingly) was tight, his left hand was low as always, but his chin was tucked behind his shoulder, and his right was protecting his body.

To me he didn't lose the first 4, but away from home I knew the judges with the crowd chearing any kessler aggression were always going to be swayed to the home town fighter.

I don't think nottingham is a done deal for the Ab's fight, but I hope for whatever chances Froch has left I'm wrong.

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comment by Orpheus (U9490488)

posted Apr 25, 2010

I have posted before on Froch's tendency to make a fault into an attribute-namely his 'granite chin'. The fact is that Carl takes far too many hard shots. He says he likes a brawl and enjoys a tear up and that's his way. He gets good power into his own head shots because of the leverage from carrying his hands so low. But this means that he is open to even the most telegraphed straight right or left hook! I like Carl and he is a warrior, but he is getting too badly torn up in his fights, he will be worn down too fast (the signs are already there)!
As some posters are saying, he did show a better defence against Kessler, especially by at least moving his head and rolling his shoulder so the head shots did not connect too much. And, because he is not often off balance due to his wide stance, it looks like he is not phased by shots that would knock over a fighter who was shifting his weight around more. But those shots are still landing hard! All Kessler did was go to the body with fairly standard straight rights! These shots hurt Carl and you could see he was struggling with them! Being strong and tough is not enough, he needs some smarter moves or he will pay a very high and long term price!

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comment by Ray (U1655331)

posted Apr 25, 2010

Definitely not a knockdown. The replay showed no punch landed.

I think Kessler's gameplan confused Froch a bit. For the first half of the fight Kessler kept thowing straight rights to the body, barely going for head shots. I've never seen him do this before so I guess it's something he's worked on with his new trainer, and it seemed to slow Froch down a bit.

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comment by jimdig (U10171369)

posted Apr 25, 2010

88 and Ray, I stand corrected on it not being a knockdown. I haven't seen it back yet, and my live stream wasn't the best.

Ben - got to agree that Froch's flatfooted wide stance, is a big factor behind the granite chin. I think that the miles are starting to clock up on the froch with all the power shots to the head he's been taking. He took less last night than i thought he would, but still.

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posted Apr 25, 2010

Apparently Froch went into the fight with a perforated eardrum. I would expect that to affect his spatial awareness and balance a little - especially in a noisy environment. I know office workers who would be off work with that! But the fight I listened to had Froch starting off intending to play a long game, moving up a gear when he was already in deficit, then getting complacent when he thought he was in the ascendancy, then running out of steam. A rock hard fighter and he seems a nice bloke, but I thought he let himself down a little last night.

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posted Apr 26, 2010

i was ring side for Calzaghe vs kessler. This was THE crunch match at the time both undefeated and at the top of the P4P rankings and I thought the quality of boxing and skill was way higher than this fight Froch vs Kessler. Kessler fought well but he seems to have regressed a bit from what he was, he has a trade mark left right I cant remember seeing it in the fight... I thought myself it was a very very hard fight to score and I thought also that the ring looked smaller than most of the fights I have seen recently. I actually think that Froch game plan was ok he was the away fighter got settled in and then 4th and 5th round really showed his class stepped it up with some superb power shots....it looked like he had turned the fight there and then... here we go I thought... what went wrong is over the next rounds kessler slowed him up with some very very good body shots, this set froch back a little. Kessler also had some great bursts of action and effort which were eye catching in the last few rounds it just came across that he wanted it more. I can understand Frochs dissapointment he has worked so hard and is a proud tough guy but this is sport and it comes down to fractions sometimes, now maybe people can appreciate just how special calzaghe has been.

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posted Apr 26, 2010

good job carl didny fight calzaghe as he would have got knocked well out he said hes the best boxer maybe in nottingham but calzaghe is the best ever in that weight .

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comment by pdappa (U14443756)

posted Apr 30, 2010

Calzaghe must have been the happiest man alive when they read the decision. Froch spent so much pre fight time nailing Calzaghe he ran out of steam in the ring. Calzaghe fought an unbeaten Kessler and made him look ordinary. Froch should learn to do his talking in the ring.

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