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Rafa does't give young players opportunity

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LUCAS
NGOG
INSUA
Elzar
Kelly
Spearing
Pacheco
Eccleston

Have all made first team appearance this season.

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comment by sparky (U14444955)

posted May 1, 2010

last year we had 6 full backs, last game we could play a full in the right posotion. how many players can he buy an sell before he is stopped! he says he needs five players to go against the big guns???..... he has signed 49 players? come on how many more!

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comment by Gary (U14444785)

posted May 1, 2010

Those hours are for boys in the 9-16 age groups mate. They are slightly higher than the premier league guidelines but have been in place this season.

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posted May 1, 2010

comment by Percules (U5853643)
posted 3 Hours Ago

Sorry, but whoever said Rafa hasn't been able to spend is living in cloud-cuckoo-land.

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lets be honest he had to replace the whole of liverpool team pretty much when rafael came, he hasnt had the luxury on spending 20 million on youth like chelsea/utd. hes had to bring in squad players, a lot are average and he gets blame for bringing in more quantity then quality, but i think thats what he had to do, plus he did not have 100 % transfer policy and my bet is most the flops were down to parry... pennant,babel, keane etc.

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posted May 1, 2010

har0ldinh0, that isn't "being honest" at all. Benitez did not have to replace his entire team. It is also a kop out (if you'll excuse the pun) to just say that every bad signing was Rick Parry's fault. It isn't right to turn a great servant of your club into a scapegoat just to save Benitez from criticism. Which is also exactly what many LFC fans are doing when they blame Steve Heighway for the academy's problems.

Whatever happened to the loyalty that LFC fans claim is so important to them?

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posted May 2, 2010

People appear to forget that the likes of Gerrard, Owen, Fowler and carra come thru the Liverpool academy when Phil Thompson was at the helm.
If it requires improving now just shows that Raffa got rid of PT for all the wrong reasons.
A system that brings stars thru like the above, then there couldn't have been much wrong with the previous system could there?
Bring back PT along with Ian Rush and watch the academy improve.

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posted May 2, 2010

Agreed Sir well said

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posted May 3, 2010

There are an awful lot of uninformed views about the state of the Academy and how Rafa has dealt with it.
The simple facts are that the Academy was in an appalling state when Rafa arived and any players it produced were by accident or were already there when the Academy was established by Kenny Dalglish and initially run properly and not as a personal empire by Steve Heighway.
Fans would be appalled if they were able to view how the Academy resembled a private clique ridden club rather then a professional organistaion.
Now the Academy is being run by true professionals and staff with a proven track record and at clubs where young footballers of genuine class were produced.
The turnaround won't happen overnight but in a few years if it isn't tinkered with it should produce genuine contenders for 1st team football.
Anyone who has watched the performances of the reserves and Academy this year will have witnessed the move towards playing good controlled skilful football with a gathering tactical awareness.
Yes Rafa has made mistakes this season but he is building for the future and a future the club club can support for a long time without having to spend ludricous amounts of money - somewhere inbetween what most clubs do now and what Arsenal do.
Look at the big picture and look at it with informed eyes and the future looks good and established - mess aroung with it and the club will be set back years.
If Rafa needs money it will only be to tide the club over until the seeds he has planted and cultivated burst forth.

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comment by Ash (U3097733)

posted May 6, 2010

who are you Man Utd fans to comment on our academy? What the hell do you know? Like the one mentioning Phil Thompson? are you from Retardia? Phil Thompson was an assistant manager, never a youth coach. Heighway going was great for the academy, he ran it like a personal empire and was very selective, we lost some great youth players to Everton because of him. You guys don't even know half of the story and you call yourselves Liverpool fans. Pah.

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posted May 7, 2010

Man Uniteds youth system has been hugely succsessful in the last few years.
The Da Silva twins signed for a combined 3 million.Darren Fletcher didn't become a first team regular until he was 24.Danny Wellbeck a maximum of 10 games and out on loan,Fraiser Campbell now at Sunderland,Danny Simpson at Blackburn.
Well at least Liverpool have Kelly,Darby and Ecclestone pushing for squad places,they may not become regulars until they hit their early 20s,but John O Shea hasn't and he's 29.

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posted May 8, 2010

Man Utd's academy is running along nicely thank you. Bearing in mind you would have to be a superstar youngster to be a regular for United, as the first team has to compete for top honours, and superstar youngsters don't grow on trees. But the likes of Fletcher and O'Shea have been in the United squad for years and forged good and successful careers, whilst clocking up an impressive number of appearances. An academy is still a success if it produces players that don't quite make it at a club like Man Utd but become footballers and can be sold for good fees, like Campbell and Simpson. And United's academy is still producing players like Cleverley, Drinkwater, James and Welbeck who have all done very well on loan this season. United won the National Reserves Title (Often using players from the academy) and the academy also won their league. Watch out for Ravel Morrison and William Keane. I know this is a forum about how Liverpool's academy doesn't work, well I am just comparing it to an academy that does work!

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