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Bangladesh v England day four *(official)

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by betting_guru (U1779520) 23 March 2010
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Bangladesh's chances of a rare Test victory appear to be drifting away as we approach the end of the first hour on day four, with Bresnan approaching a century and Tredwell batting nicely.

As the tour as a whole comes to an end, we'd love to hear your views about how things have gone - and if you think this match still has a potentially exciting conclusion in store, then please let us know.

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posted Mar 23, 2010

wtf cares. in a global context, this is about as significant as a non-cup canada / mexico match in football. ipl is a lot more fun.

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posted Mar 23, 2010

Obviously you do not care, you don't even follow cricket, or at least your profile has no mention of it, erm so why make a comment on something you have (an assumption here) absolutely no interest in.
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Go back to the Arsenal board please

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posted Mar 23, 2010

comment by BarcaGooner (U14223448)
posted 50 Minutes Ago

wtf cares. in a global context, this is about as significant as a non-cup canada / mexico match in football. ipl is a lot more fun.

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The IPL is like eating a burger and fries at McDonalds. It's fun. It's family friendly. It's quick. But in excess it is not particularly healthy and gets boring quickly.

As far as I can recall, Test cricket in the Indian Sub-Continent has rarely been fun, but it is definitely character-building. You find out far more about a player's quality over 5 days in Bandladesh or Sri Lanka than in a week of IPL games where a player can be a hero for a 10-ball innings.

Anyway, this thread is about Test cricket. And about one particular game that is illustrating why Test cricket is fascinating: 2 days ago no one would have guess at this finish, would they? (if they did, they didn't post it). It's a slow, drawn-out finish with increasing tension... what Test is all about.

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posted Mar 23, 2010

Predictably 2-0 to England, fair play to them.

I think they have gone about their business there with the absolute minimum of fuss.

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posted Mar 23, 2010

I think we should get Bangladesh out quite quickly tommorrow.

We've made them toil in the field for a long time, then we've bowled well to dispirit them.

Their confidence must be low and they tend to do badly when the crunch comes.

The only significant worry is that slow-scoring by England early on might increase the pressure on themselves. I hope KP sees us home.

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posted Mar 23, 2010

I am quite surprised at the punishment meted out to the Bangas reference the questioning of some decisions; to quote:

Meanwhile, Bangladesh coach Jamie Siddons was fined 10% of his match fee after objecting to a series of umpiring decisions during Monday's play.

Looking back on the replays, some of those decisions were a bit questionable, and therefore Siddons was right to draw attention to them.
But to then fine him?
Oh dear!

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No, that's called dissent, and it's not allowed. There are routes for Bangladesh to take after the match if they felt the umpire was substandard, what Siddons did wasn't one of those routes, so he received the prescribed punishment. The alternative is you get officials whose positions are fatally undermined, and petulant whinging players and coaches. You know, like football.


The endless "oh the umpire might have been wrong just then" is ruining cricket anyway - they're human, they make mistakes, it's the same at every level of the game, so just get on with it already. If the slightest hint of a mistake is that much of a concern to anyone, why are you following cricket? You must never have sat through a match and enjoyed it, cos there'll always be a dubious moment at some point. Either accept that mistakes can and will happen, and live with it, or leave cricket to those of us who enjoy it for what it is. There's a degree of irony watching the tedious referral system come in, and then seeing sections of the fans and media moaning because something always seems to go wrong with that too. You sense some people will never be happy...

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posted Mar 23, 2010

Although England will win this test match, I have been might impressed with Bangladesh who are fighting like crazy to survive. I agree some of the umpiring decisions have been unlucky for them, but you can not blame the England cricket team for that. We have to just get on with playing.
Great performance by the England players in temperatures well over 30 degrees.

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posted Mar 23, 2010

comment by mindswap (U11757649)
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Another huge helping hand for England in a test match from "inept" umpiring. It's what the smaller test nations are used to although Australia also experienced strangely one-sided ineptitude during the last Ashes series, contributing as much to England's victory as the rain.

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There was a telling quote from Simon Hughes today:

"Being on the wrong end of bad umpiring decisions is the lot of inferior teams. England have been there and got the T-shirt, just think back to those series against Australia in the 1990s. The best response is to pick yourself up and create more opportunities."

England felt similarly inferior in 2006/07 when an astonishing number of bad calls went against us. However, on the vast majority of occasions, such umpiring does not change the result of a series. Watching the highlights DVD from the summer Ashes it was striking how many dodgy calls there were and how even divided they were. That's another characteristic of poor umpiring, the losing side always remembers the calls that went against them rather than the ones that went their way!

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posted Mar 25, 2010



NedB-H: "No, that's called dissent, and it's not allowed. There are routes for Bangladesh to take after the match if they felt the umpire was substandard, what Siddons did wasn't one of those routes, so he received the prescribed punishment. The alternative is you get officials whose positions are fatally undermined, and petulant whinging players and coaches. You know, like football."

OK, point taken, but unfortunately we are beginning to see the "football disease" of petulance and whinging" creeping into the game which is very sad. The emotion of the game perhaps?

"If the slightest hint of a mistake is that much of a concern to anyone, why are you following cricket? You must never have sat through a match and enjoyed it, cos there'll always be a dubious moment at some point. Either accept that mistakes can and will happen, and live with it, or leave cricket to those of us who enjoy it for what it is."

I have followed cricket for over 45 years, and do accept mistakes happen, but to just live with it is a mindless comment to make (IMHO). Debate is what it is all about on these posts, and sometimes, just sometimes, debate gets listened to and things occasionally change because of it. That is healthy as are innocent comments made wrt peoples opinion. Nothing wrong with that, but inane remarks such as "leave cricket to those of us who enjoy it for what it is" can be mildly inept.
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posted Mar 26, 2010

"Watching the highlights DVD from the summer Ashes it was striking how many dodgy calls there were and how even divided they were."

Have another look at that DVD again Stargazer. You're right about the astonishing number of bad calls. However, the awful decisions were predominately against Australia, significantly so, in terms of the series. Do you not remember the furore it caused at the time because it was so one-sided against the Aussies?

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