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Goal line technology

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by ccfc__1987 (U14231108) 02 December 2009
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As we all know Fifa are likely to announce tomorrow that at the World Cup they are going to have goal line assistants like they do in the Europa League. Which in my opinion have been a complete disaster! On my way into work this morning I was listening to Mike Parry and Andy Townsend on Talksport. They were discussing the idea of introducing a camera in the goal at the World Cup to tell whether or not the ball crosses the line.

I personally think that we should leave it as it is. If the correct descision was made everytime then how boring would football be? What would we have to discuss, what would the tabloids put on their back pages? Controversy is a massive part of football and without it football would end up as boring as Cricket and Rugby. No major incidents to argue and debate!

I do understand that it is the logical thing to do because of the impact it can have financially on teams and how it can stop players from going to the biggest compititions in the world and how heart breaking on fans it can be, but surely this is what football is all about?

Just wanted to know what other people thought about the issue???

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posted Dec 2, 2009

This is only a relevant point if we're discussing the introdutction of video technologies. Then we begin to follow the sad path of american football which has been and is currently being ruined by introduction of rule after rule. However, in the case of goal line officials the game would not be ruined by any means. They can still make the wrong call abd there would still be plenty of free kicks, and yellow/red card calls to argue over. The mid field miss calls would still provide plenty of burning issues between fans and media. I see no negative impact of extra officials, especially only one per side, so long as they are isolated to the goal line for assistance in calls such as hand balls and penalties. i for one feel less proud after a win via penalty kick unless it is well deserved. video technology again would be too overbearing on the game.

Passion is passion and football by no means is in danger of losing said passion. The Beautiful Game always will be as it always has been The Worlds Game.

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posted Dec 2, 2009

Imagine too if the judges and the police managed to always get the criminals first time, wouldn't life be boring - they'd have to cancel crimewatch for a start

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posted Dec 2, 2009

The next question is why aren't the billionaire owners demanding the necessary changes be implemented into the game?
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Because they are paying the referees to favour their clubs/countries perhaps?

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posted Dec 3, 2009

I'm in favour of a 5th official, reviewing via video, for big matches (ie top division, european and internationals) as long as it doesn't go overboard. I like the idea of either a limited amount of requests for reviews from the participants themselves(as per tennis) or from the referee if unsure (as per rugby union). The former is preferable, as giving say 3 challenges per team per match, called by the captain or manager, puts the onus on the teams themselves, and if they have used the challenges - tough. If we leave it to the refs to call for a video replay if unsure, we would see players hounding the referee even more than at present for a replay for every disputed foul, booking, corner etc.

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posted Dec 3, 2009

Right, now I have finally read through all the posts on this issue I'll "try" to defend my opinion. Before I do I'd just like to say that I'm not a Man Utd fan, I support Coventry City so if you think my opinion is based on the fact I support a successful team that usually get the rub of the green then you're very mistaken!

Say a team have a corner, ball gets cleared off/over the line and the defending team go forward on the break. Yet they get pulled back to check the video. Its decided the ball didn't cross the line. Now the team that were on the break have been punished for defending well.

The idea of having so many challenges each could work yet I'm still unsure as to where, when and how the game would be stopped and restarted. It could cause just as much controvrsy. You could end up with a team winning 1-0 with a minute to go using a challenge just to break the game up. It works in tennis but tennis is a completely different game to football and doesn't flow like football does!

Also, once it is brought in to decide one situation people will complain about other things and before we know it people will want it to be used to determine throw-ins!

At the minute video evidence is already being used after the game to pick up on incidents that have been missed during the game. This in my opinion is the only way video tecnoogy should be used. However, at the minute the powers that be do not hit players hard enough that have been found to have cheated! I think that FIFA should come up with a system as to where the team that have been cheated are rewarded.

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posted Dec 3, 2009

I think all the people clamouring for video technology with an appeals system are wide of the mark. Tennis is the onyl sport that has this system, and CCFC, as you correctly point out, it is nothing like football!

Why not just have a similar system to that used in rugby? The video ref is consulted if the field ref wants clarification on a goal-related incident ONLY. The ball goes dead quickly enough in most situations that it would be easy to deploy.

People who see so many problems behind the use of technology are, for me, totally blowing the issue out of proportion. Guidelines (indeed, laws) could very easily be introduced by Fifa to eradicate the potential of any loopholes occuring.

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posted Dec 3, 2009

I haven't had a chance to see the extra linesmen in action. The author mentioned they have been a disaster -- can anyone who's seen them in action exlain why they have been a disaster? Haven't had the chance....

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posted Dec 3, 2009

I haven't had a chance to see the extra linesmen in action. The author mentioned they have been a disaster -- can anyone who's seen them in action exlain why they have been a disaster? Haven't had the chance....
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I have been to see a couple of europa league games. They are a disaster because they don't do anything, for example. The first game that i went to see there was a blatent shirt pull inside the box in front of the goal ref, no pen. Every game now has 2 more spectators might as well give them a chair to sit because they have no participation in the match at all. It's as if they are not there. That's why they are a disaster

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posted Dec 3, 2009

WTF is "Moral" compensation??? doh

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posted Dec 4, 2009

Pottero6 (U14241586)

As you say - video technology would not work on a referal basis. However the problem with your suggestion is this:

Let's take the Henry example. At what point would the video referee be consulted? None. Why? Because in the referees eyes, he 'knew' the ball hit Henry's chest, as he signaled to protesting Irish players. He'd never have to consult the video ref because he never thought there might be a problem.

So where do we go from there. Are we saying that upon the massive protest from Irish players he would have questioned himself and asked for the technology? If that's the case everytime something MIGHT have happened, we'll have a cricket style appeal to the referee, at which point the reason for having a referee is gone!

It's not as simple as people think it might be, hence why we don't have it at the moment. It won't work in football and it never will.

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