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Haye v Valuev punt

by Negri25 (U10166930) 02 November 2009
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Hi, I have a vested interest in boxing; not a knowledgable fan but I see all the big fights.

I've done a little research into Haye-Valuev and would like some advice from someone who has knowledge about Valuev's past heavyweight bouts.

Haye to win on points - 5/4
Valuev to win by KO - 7/4 (might be higher, can't remember exactly)

Basically, I'm considering a cowards shout on these options - this means I'll be lumping on the same amount for each call, and if either was to happen, I'd make a profit.

I believe these are the most likely outcomes of the fight and I'm basically seeking approval from a boxing fan in the know.

I really want Haye to win btw, but obviously Valuev by KO would be profitable.

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posted Nov 3, 2009

I see Valuev leaning on Haye for around 6 rounds and sapping the soul from him. Haye will be knackered and won't be able to go into the trenches in the latter rounds hence a valuev stoppage

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posted Nov 3, 2009

could someone please explain to me how valuev is going to win this fight?? apart from a dodgy decision in germany.
The fact of the matter is valuev only chance of beating haye is knocking him out and hitting him clean more than just once. Also dont forget haye knows this aswell and will avoid this from happening for 12 rounds just as holyfield did.
Also considering haye is faster, stronger, and more sharp than holyfield after 12 rounds if haye has a good gameplan...it will be evident that haye will win.
also there is not much chance that this fight will be fixed by judges in favour of valuev because the media attention is so much greater than the holyfield fight, and hayes camp know what its like out there and of course they are not gonna stand for any dodgy decisions.
Everything is pointing to a haye victory even the bookies cant give valuev worse odds than they already have, they arent stupid...just like hayes camp winkeye...if u know what i mean !!

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posted Nov 3, 2009

Also ill like to compare this fight with Khan VS barrera!!

We all know khans victory against barrera was nothing special, however they wanted to paint a brilliant image of khan, someone who defeated a legend, was still a great fighter with a big career ahead of him and was over his loss to prescott.

I believe hayes fight is similar! the fact the haye is telling the media that here is a 7ft2 guy whose never been hurt in the ring and has only 1 loss...makes it seems like it is an impossible job. However haye and his camp know that valuev is a 36 yr old beast who is past it, couldnt beat holyfield, cant jab properly....and haye can do the job..presenting a big image of haye that he is now the top heavyweight and contender for klithsko!!
Khans and Hayes stories are both similar i believe...british promotors are very clever indeed and all this is being done so the fighters get bigger fights and therefore generate more money..!! making everyone happy...you know it makes sense :D !!

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comment by ted (U6576923)

posted Nov 3, 2009

according to this site haye is the bookies favorite.i wont be betting on this fight its to wide open for several things to happen,mainly a corrupt points decision for value is the main one in most peoples mind.

we have seen haye wobbled by mormeck and then by montdell barret so what will happen when the beast hits him?? it will be a awesome sight to watch if haye a k.o value.im just trying to picture how he will go about connecting with a hayemaker or 3 to values jaw.i wish haye good luck and hope hes wins but the ref will be strongly on values side not to mention the judges.

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posted Nov 3, 2009

If Freddie Roach says Haye will win, thats good enough for me. I'm goin for Haye stoppage in the middle rounds.

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posted Nov 4, 2009

Its got a draw writen all over it.

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posted Nov 4, 2009

Forget the boxing... Is it just me or does Valuev bear a striking resemblance to David Walliams?

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posted Nov 6, 2009

it has happened in the past big monster and a smaller power punching opponent think of Jss Willard and how Jack dempsey demolished him, but the question really remains is Haye that good - i hope so - cos otherwise valuevs spoiling tactics, and points decision will kill this fight.

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posted Nov 6, 2009

I've decided to give this one a miss.

The main reason is that if I want to make a sizeable profit, I'd have to lump on huge, and I'm just not prepared to take such a risk.

Two other reasons:

- I really like Haye and want him to win, so I don't want to feel happy if Valuev KOs him!<laugh>

- It would be nice to see the fight and enjoy it, rather than be biting my nails on the outcome.

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