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Clough Duff

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by StaffyStokie (U14182099) 01 November 2009
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They say there is little sentiment in football, but I dont think that was the case when Derby picked Nigel Clough from the back waters of the game that is Burton Albion. In short if he wasn't called Clough he wouldn't have stood a chance of getting the gig IMO. After all he spent years down the brewers and achieved nothing until the last season he was there! To bring Jake Buxton with him and think he could play at this level was plain daft, similarly his choice of Robbie savage as captain was just asking for trouble. Derby will go down this season unless there are root and branch changes.

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posted Nov 2, 2009

"achieved nothing"

Depends on this definition. If finishing every season higher than the previous is nothing then I might be inclined to agree.

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posted Nov 2, 2009

You appear to believe that Burton Albion spent 10 years in the Blue Square premier before getting promoted.

This is wrong, and shows you up to be someone who writes cheap wums without knowing what they are talking about.

Burton had to go through 3 leagues to get to where they are today. Not so shabby in 10 years eh? Especially when you remember they were the only side in the BSP that was not a full-time-pro set-up.

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posted Nov 2, 2009

Achieved nothing?
He was there for 10 years, improving their league position EVERY season, before finally setting it up for McFarland to finish the job, albeit messilly (is that a word? :s), of taking them into the Football League for the first time in their history.
He was a great success in Burton, and will be in Derby given the time.

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posted Nov 2, 2009

what did clough achieve at burton, improving a league position over a course of 10 years and only achieving 1 promotion is not what i would call stunning. the reason that his achivement looks good at burton is that they had no expectations or standards, while at derby we do have them. i expect our team to be playing at least championship, not league 1 and that is, i fear where we are going if something does not give, weather that be clough going or the board pumping more money in.

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posted Nov 2, 2009

Well said, Sunny! Clough junior was another nearly man, A lot of hype catapulted him way above his true level. I recall he asked to be released early from his contract at Man City and retired. I wonder if he was in awe of "old big head" during his formative years? His media performances are not ispiring IMO

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posted Nov 3, 2009

He has spent time learning his trade at a lower level, developing his skills and gaining experience for 10 years He also spent time as a player learning from the best there ever was, regardless of his name.
He'll be successful given the time which he will get from Appleby and Glick.
And you seem to forget he is not his dad.

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posted Nov 9, 2009

Achieved 1 promotion, set them up for a second (how many teen points were they clear when he left to go to Derby?), improved their points tally and/or League position 10 seasons on the trot. Refused to spend money rashly.

Yep, abject failure isn't it Stokie?

So far he has kept us up last season, cleared the deadwood out and got players in for the price HE thinks they are worth and not a penny more. Hehas been hit with a horrendous injury list that has forced weekly changes down the spine of the team. The walking wounded are now trickling back and IF we keep them fit we'll be fine. keep on getting the huge injury problems and we will struggle.

Whoever was manager, SAF, Shanks or even BC himself, couldn't have done better on a budget of no money.

Both Nigel and the board have consistently said that the club is being rebuilt from the bottom up and success will come but it will take time. They should be given time rather than have folk criticising because we aren't in the top 2 and winning every game eleventeen nil.

The reasons for not doing well are there for everybody to see. Accept it. We cant change it. Just get behind the team and cheer them on, that is our job as fans.

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posted Nov 10, 2009

You must be one of those Jonny come lately glory hunting Stoke fans who'll disappear again when it's over.
Now jog on back to your own board.
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Real Stoke fan in peace - don't send him back to us, he only moans there! We think he may be the latest reincarnation of one of our most(least) celebrated WUM's of the last year or 2.

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posted Nov 10, 2009

Although we've had a few horror performances this seasons and clearly our points tally is hugely disappointing - I've seen enough so far to know that Clough will turn us into a really good side.

He needs time, a little money and a lot of luck. The injury situation is improving and with the return of our key players, we will climb the table.

Patience -

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posted Nov 16, 2009

If you look at Brian Clough's wining seasons you see that he played about 14 players, Nigel Clough, due to injuries, must have played over 30. How can you get consistency with this number of players?
Also Brian inherited, Kevin Hector, Ron Webster, Colin Boulton and Alan Durban. Who of contemporary quality like this did Nigel inherit?
I think Nigel will do fine in the long run if the fans / board don't all suffer from attention deficit disorder. My concern after watching the QPR game was how many 'high' balls were being played and how many of these balls were lost. Who ever plays for Derby, even if a third or fourth string team, they should all be trying to play the same system of playing the ball on the ground, playing to feet, not high ball chase.

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