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Live - Women's Euro 2009 final

Womens Football
by Jonathan Stevenson (U1987325) 10 September 2009
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If there's a major football tournament going on, you can be sure that somewhere along the way, England and Germany will meet.

The Uefa Women's European Championship in Finland is no exception - and this time, as with the Under-21 teams in June, the two come face-to-face in the final.

Germany have won the last four tournaments, England have never won it. But no team can keep winning it forever... Can they?

We'll bring you all the action from Helsinki, right here.
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comment by trebell (U9277532)

posted Sep 10, 2009

"GO GERMANY.... A NATION OF ACHIEVERS AND EVEN THEIR TRANSPORT WORKS AND IS ON TIME LOL"

ok then.

england ladies cricket.. world cup winners, 20/20 world cup winnders. holders of the ashes.

a nation of under achievers?

get over yourself and stop talking nonsense.

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comment by hannah (U14118911)

posted Sep 10, 2009

We should have made a sub in the 70th or something minute as we were getting tired
And we should stick to short passing not the long ball game

But overall good for us. Especially Kelly Smith. Shouldnt have been 6-2 though

And can people stop posting idiotically sexist comments.

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posted Sep 10, 2009

Well done England ladies. I only saw today's game and although we were good in the first half, second half Germany seemed to step up a gear. I think Hope left the subs too late and England tired because of this.

The Beeb should be ashamed at not putting more games on. Many football fans would have watched them. Womens football has massively improved over the last few years. Germany were awesome and would give a few lower league clubs some problems. Their finishing was excellent!

I don't think that England ever had a chance against Germany, they were just too powerful and skillful but the girls can hold their heads up high!!

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comment by Expatde (U7141139)

posted Sep 11, 2009

Interesting reporting on the Men’s and Women’s sides the BBC. When the men’s team win by a 4 goal margin they “gave Croatia a thrashing” when the women’s team lose by the same margin there is talk of achievement, valiant displays and how cruel it is on the English side when goal number 6 goes in and then they are only being “crushed” by Germany. Surely this was another thrashing. Also I am not sure which game you were watching but it was obvious after the first 5 minutes which team was the stronger and which would win, although I will admit I was surprised by the final score, but at the final whistle it was still a “thrashing” I see from some comments that the BBC did not show the entire tournament, shame on you, I watched it all here in Germany. There were some highly entertaining games, especially those involving England and Germany.

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posted Sep 11, 2009

All of this needs to be put in to context. Germany has been in the last 5 finals this was England's first. It reminds me a lot of the U21 final earlier this year. Experience counts for a lot and this is something that few teams understand.

Brazil, Germany, Italy in Football, Australia, England in Rugby are prime examples, you have to get to a final to be able to win it, the more often you do that the more chance you have.

They may not have always been the best team but they gave themselves the chance and the experience. That's the key to consistency and winning these major tournaments.

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posted Sep 11, 2009

'england ladies cricket.. world cup winners, 20/20 world cup winnders. holders of the ashes.

a nation of under achievers?

get over yourself and stop talking nonsense.'

Ah, nothing like bringing up achievements in a marginal sport like cricket to prove a point eh?

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posted Sep 11, 2009

"liverbirdmate
i don't understand your comment
what i'm saying is that rochdale would get a cricket score against either of these teams."

That's the point. Rochdale, a professional football club for men, against the female England or German players from yesterday. Is that a fair comparison? That's like pitting Amir Khan with Jane Couch.

The Rochdale players may well be League Two, they still possess the physicality and fitness to overawe the females. It's just not right to involve male athletics when assessing female athletics. Otherwise, we would have the female teams intermingling with the male ones in the football league.

"...and the reason we can compare football and womens football is because it was televised on bbc2, not womens bbc2"

We can compare men's football to women's football because it's football? And 'women's BBC2? It's not 'men's BBC2'. Think this comment sums my point up:

AmsterdamYank: "But those of us who do enjoy the women's game aren't in a dream world (OK, maybe some of us are, but most aren't). To me, it's irrelevant how the women would do against professional male players. What matters to me is how the best women compete against each other, striving to be the best in the world and fighting for all they're worth to get there."

The England Women's team tried out there, all competition, to win it, that's required of them. They were wel below par yesterday but they have strived to make it through the teams before them and they made it. Doesnt matter to me if they're male or female, they represent competition and they represent England.

I'm not concerned with who looks the prettiest, ugliest, has the biggest chest, should be in the kitchen and the rest of the male chavinistic traits that seem to rear up at any moment a female is concerned. People should show respect where it's due and it's due with women actually competing in what was before a totally male-dominated and competed sport.

Females have been kept back by the 'idealism' of their 'role' in society, and it appears that that 'idealism' still persist today. They can do things we can do, and it's been about time they were respected for it. Perhaps those who love to exert their chavinistic 'idealism' can tell the female shot-putters and bodybuilders where they belong in society.

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posted Sep 11, 2009

"Also I am not sure which game you were watching but it was obvious after the first 5 minutes which team was the stronger and which would win, although I will admit I was surprised by the final score"

Wasnt that obvious, we were looking the better fromt he kick-off until Germany began to wake up and moved about. Their first goal came courtesy of poor awareness from us in not spotting main threat Brigit, and the second came from a hopeful shot that our keeper just didnt deal with. We got back into it and kept at them up until the half time. Wasnt anything obvious on who would win at that point and I felt we could actually get back at the Germans and make more of what we didnt in the 1st half.

"I watched it all here in Germany. There were some highly entertaining games, especially those involving England and Germany."

Funny that, seeing as the German team have won the last five consecutive finals, it's no wonder it was being televised entirely. Wondered how the schedule would have been had the Germans not qualified? Probably not a feasible idea, but what if they didn't?

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posted Sep 11, 2009

Paragraph above is meant to read: "Wasnt that obvious, we were looking the better from THE kick-off until Germany began to wake up and moved about. Their first goal came courtesy of poor awareness from us in not spotting main threat BIRGIT PRINZ, and the second came from a hopeful INKA GRINGS shot that our keeper just didnt deal with.

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posted Sep 11, 2009

Aaarrghh!!! Not Grings, it was Melanie Behringer! Grings passed to Prinz for the first goal! Grings also picked up two in the second half in what was, quite frankly, the proverbial German blitz.

Also want to add I didn't like Karen Carney showing off her surname to the crowd after her goal. We were 1-2 down, playing lethargically and managed to pull one back after being twisted and slapped twice in the German goals, so the time wasn't to celebrate like stardom had arrived - time was to refocus and get another and then perhaps celebrate. I just felt it was premature to get happy, considering how we had played overall up to that point.

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