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Bendtner long term deal???? Really???

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by Sean Cleaver (U8209495) 02 September 2009
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Probably about as much sense as driving with your eyes closed and putting your Sat Nav language to Japanese.

I'm not an Arsenal fan. But I am a fan of football and really can't see what Arsene Wegner sees in this kid. He looks like a player that has reached his potential and it simply isn't good enough for the Top flight football that Arsenal want to play. I know some people are going to question this but I don't expect anyone to be an instant hit or even to be the preverbial talisman. But I can see no honest role that he would fill in the style and quality that Arsenal play. He's just simply not good enough to play for them week in week out or by coming off the bench like he does.

Arsenal have some quality players in their attack and some great younger players who are coming through the ranks. But I question what Wegner see's in the kid. Is he an animal on the training ground? If so, why isn't he on the pitch?

This baffles me.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

comment by herbyone (U13670757)
posted 3 Hours Ago

Well I am an Arsenal supporter but I agree with Seanbeaver in every respect, I have put my thoughtso n this matter in print in this debate before, and dont want to go through it all again, suffice to say, he simply isnt good enough for the level Arsenhal have to play at in order to survive at the top in Pl and Cl, sorry Nicklas.

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and there you have it - his career is over 21 years old, forget all Europes top clubs opinion this 606 reader states he is not and will bever be good enough....Thanks for that, but i will trust Wenger and what is see which is an improving pair of players, and dont forget how many goals he got last season!

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Yup - totally agree - too many idiots on here who "think" they understand football.

Supavite - I can't be bothered to reply to everything you wrote but the very fact you say Wenger has played Denilson in the Fabregas role demonstrates perfectly my point that, you don't know what you are talking about. <ok>

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posted Sep 3, 2009

the HotHead - Eboue's Publicist and Advisor (U1997057)
posted 16 Minutes Ago

Yup - totally agree - too many idiots on here who "think" they understand football.

Supavite - I can't be bothered to reply to everything you wrote but the very fact you say Wenger has played Denilson in the Fabregas role demonstrates perfectly my point that, you don't know what you are talking about.
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I think it is good new - Deni played more games than anyone else at the club last yr and was consisten - he seems to have upped his game again this season and has been closing playrs down in CM like a man possesed.

I dont see Deni as a fab replacement - i think he is going to be one of 2 DMs in our system - Diaby / Ramsey seem more suited to the Fabregas role

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posted Sep 3, 2009

"Supavite - I can't be bothered to reply to everything you wrote but the very fact you say Wenger has played Denilson in the Fabregas role demonstrates perfectly my point that, you don't know what you are talking about"

So what position was he playing aginst manu?

Diaby interchanged position with arshavin, Denilson was meant to play fabregas role as one of the playmakers/attackers whilst song was the holding midfielder. However his performace was clearly found wanting, the reason he was substituted.

And yes I do know what I am talking about. There were also games last season that he played the fabregas role (when cesc was injured- dont ask me to say which games as I really do not have the time to do the research but I am 100% certain) and once again his performance was dire. So the question is what is he good at? In my opinion not very much.

The fact that your opinion differs to mine is fine - after all this is a forum, but to say I do not know what I am talking about is laughable.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

supavite (U13499774) - You what ????

Fabregas has been played in 3 roles since he has been at Arsenal:

1) Deep lying playmaker (normal role, like Alonso).

2) Support striker - (for a few games last season - as Gerrard has done for Liverpool).

3) Playmaker - further forward than normal but not out and out attacking (which is how he is playing now).

In those 3 roles Fabregas has been a playmaker, creating chances. This is a position I have never seen Denilson play.

At best you could say Denilson has been played as a "midfielder" with license to get up and down, but hardly as a creative fulcrum.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Playmaker -
"Playmaker" - So how is this not similar to the role fabregas is playing?

"further forward than normal but not out and out attacking (which is how he is playing now"

This is contadictory- If you are a playmaker you have to be all out attacking (obviously defending as required) - the reason he scored the goal against everton whilst song was holding the fort.

The new 433 system means that when denilson and fabregas play they are the creative/attacking components of the team.
I believe Nasri is more suited to that role, and wont be surprise if denilson is relegated to the bench once he is back from injury.

"At best you could say Denilson has been played as a "midfielder" with license to get up and down, but hardly as a creative fulcrum"

I do not agree. The new system requires anyone apart from song to be creative/attacking/ and to be a striker. That is is why we have scored so many goals this season. In fact all the players playing in that role are what i would call semi strikers/attacking midfielders - and only eduardo is an out and out striker.

Arsene expects more goals from the midfielders this season and I can see why. When you have Nasri, rosicky, van persie, arshavin, diaby fully fit and raring to go, believe me when I say we would be unstoppable.

Remember Benitez won the league with la liga with majority of goals scored from the midfielders/semi strikers. The only problem for me lies in the fact that if song is injured or goes to afc denilson is simply not good enough to hold fort and we seem light in relation to the depth in the squad.

Whilst Ramsey, Merida and wilshere are very talented, i feel they can only play for a short time and will not have the mental strength (too young) to play for a sustained period if we have long term injuries.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

Arsene expects more goals from the midfielders/semi strikers this season and I can see why. When you have Nasri, rosicky, van persie, arshavin, diaby fully fit and raring to go, believe me when I say we would be unstoppable.

Not to forget walcott.

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posted Sep 3, 2009

"Playmaker -
"Playmaker" - So how is this not similar to the role fabregas is playing?

"further forward than normal but not out and out attacking (which is how he is playing now"

This is contadictory- If you are a playmaker you have to be all out attacking (obviously defending as required) - the reason he scored the goal against everton whilst song was holding the fort."

ignore these comments as i was reading your comments in a hurry. i thought you were talking about denilson. Sorry have to go now. In a rush.

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posted Sep 4, 2009

Great prospects. I've always rated Bendtner, I think he just has to continue improving his finishing.

A great team player though.


http://sportales.com/soccer/bent-can-straighten-out-his-doubters/

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posted Sep 4, 2009

Do you know Niklas Bendtner?
- I didn't think so. Me and Niklas Bendtner we're as tight as the lace on my Adidas

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