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Oz's problems: pace,spin,keeping & batting

by Moutarde (U9039285) 06 July 2009
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Okay, they might be able to bat a bit, but seriously, why are the English fans on here so afraid of the truth:
They have one international class bowler
They have probably 3 or 4 international class batsmen, but 2 of them are in shocking form and another appears to be unable to handle the short delivery
They have one of the worst international wicketkeepers in the world.

Sure, we, as England fans, don't want to get carried away, but let's stop making potential excuses for ourselves and accept that this is the worst Australian team to tour England for probably 32 years and if we don't beat them it will be a huge upset.

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posted Jul 7, 2009

Warne and McGrath are the mouthpieces of both the Aussie and the English sub-conscience...

Let's hope the weather doesn't win the first match.

Those that are dismissing the Aussies (based clearly on NOT watching their recent test series) are in for a shock.

Good luck to both teams.

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comment by Rod76 (U1678413)

posted Jul 7, 2009

England are a pale shadow of the team from 2005 anyway. Anderson could barely get into the team then, he's now apparently your spearhead. Harmison's lost it, Jones is crocked, and Flintoff is barely fit. The batting is not too far different from last time, although KP (England's only world class batsman) is desperately struggling for form.

Why not check the ICC rankings if you need some sort of evidence.

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posted Jul 7, 2009

Prior to the series against the Windies Bopara, Broad, Anderson, Cook, Onions and Swann were for the most part considered average cricketers. Now it's going to be a huge upset if they don't beat the #1 team in the world?!

I don't think either team winning would constitute a huge upset. The bookies tend to look at things a little more objectively then us fans and they are predicting a drawn first test and a 2-1 series win to Australia.

The focus on Australia's short-comings needs to consider the quality (or lack thereof) of their opponents. Home advantage will help England overcome the fact they are the inferior team to some extent but will it be enough?

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posted Jul 8, 2009

England win 3-1 to retain ashes - this should be easy!!

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comment by Stew30 (U9766977)

posted Jul 8, 2009

Australia's team are in experienced and are knowhere near as good compared to the sides of 2005/2007. No Mcgrath, warne, hayden, langer, martyn. I think if Australia wobble like England used to because of there in experience we could see collapses. Mcgrath is arrogant like most Aussies and I've known a few to come out with 5-0 at home. 2-1 to England, send Ponta back home on hopefully his last Ashes Tour empty handed- Lets face it we dont want to see him again. Man of the tournament Michael Clarke.

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posted Jul 8, 2009

Nice to see Mcgrath has mellowed in his retirement. <laugh>

Who ever would have thought he would predict an Aussie whitewash :-D

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posted Jul 8, 2009

Probaly the worst team in 32 years? But a 5 nil whitewash to the aussies doesnt say much about english cricket.

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posted Jul 8, 2009

I'm still staggered at the absurd levels of overconfidence coming from some England fans. Most of it seems to stem from our performance against a Windies side who clearly did not even want to be in England and seemed desperate to give their wickets away at the earliest opportunity. Fiddie aside, their bowling was dire as well, so our batsmen haven't really been tested.

Prior to that, England spent most of the past 12 months conspiring to draw cricket matches that they should have won - Its a long time since I've seen them be ruthless against anything approaching quality opposition, with the odd collapse thrown in for good measure.

Don't get me wrong, England definately have a good chance of beating the Aussies, certainly better than in 06/07. I don't think they have as good a chance as they did in 05 though. I realise that the Aussies had Warne et al back then, but we were also a team at the absolute peak of our powers (as demonstrated by a winter win in S. Africa - not a great omen for this series!).

Yes, the Aussie bowling is sub-strength by their standards but in Clarke they have the perfect disciplined bowler to take care of our openers (who rarely produce the goods when they are facing carefully thought out bowling plans) and, if Johnson manages to adjust to conditions over here, they have a fantastic strike bowler as well. Spin is obviously an issue.

I'd love an England win and will be cheering them on as loud as anybody, but I don't think blind optimism is likely to help their cause.

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posted Jul 8, 2009

Mcgrath was a legend in cricket but he is a complete wan8er

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posted Jul 11, 2009

Hi,

Just like to point out that the worst team to vist English shores in 32 years is currently 641 for 5, and 200 odd runs in front of your first innings score. <laugh>

Cheers

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