posted Jul 3, 2009

Good luck to the guy...he served Rangers well and is a good keeper. Any youngsters coming through who could step up maybe?

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posted Jul 3, 2009

David,

I tend to read your articles whilst taking a large pinch of salt and usually don't bother to reply.

This time, is an exception. You are talking total carp out of your journalistic backside!

A week or so ago, everyone slaughtered Joe Hart for his inability to commande his penalty box, while staying super-glued to his line when playing for England's U21s. You come on here and claim that Camp is a better keeper than Cerny without realising that Camp makes Hart look brave.

Camp cannot and never will command a penalty - box, a good shot-stopper yes, but anything else that is needed in a quality keeper? Never.

While Cerny will never be good enough for the PL, he is light years ahead of Camp. Take it from an ex-keeper who knows what it means to go in where it hurts!!

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posted Jul 3, 2009

Sorry, forgot to add that Camp is too short to be taken seriously as a top class keeper.

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posted Jul 4, 2009

Dave - Sadly your articles hold less value with each one you write at the moment - you sound like the official club PR machine yourself.

£100k for Camp is poor business.

Yes I advocated getting rid of Rehman & Bolder to clear the decks but this is an ex England player and much sought after and is therefore an asset worth more than he's been sold for - what will he be worth to us when Cerny takes an injury?

The climate at LR is one of a 'bit of side fun for the owners'. In good times yeah they'll throw a few quid at it but when times are bad like they are now and Mittal / Bernie & Flav are losing money they evidently don't want to throw money about. I can't blame them, I'm doing the same at home.

It strikes me the Camp sale is part of a massive clear out and much much cheaper players will be coming in on lower wages and that is a gamble depending solely I believe on JM getting us up on sheer grit and team spirit - something not seen at the Bush since Ollies 'sticky-back plastic' squad overachieved us out of Division 3.

Tough season for us ahead I think.

I'm not being negative, far from it. I believe its realistic to cut your cloth accordingly and we are very much on a par with Reading / Watford who are also having to throttle back and basically - hope for the best.

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posted Jul 4, 2009

david = i have to agree with WBA - whilst i can see the viewpoint of the "cut the massive wages" £100k for a quality keeper is poor business. i think that the virtues of this and the delaney transfers (who seems we paid over the odds for in the first place) will need to put up against what we do next. If we do naff all then i am sorely worried about the future of our club

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posted Jul 4, 2009

Maybe there is an actual plan here going on in the background, although at times I wonder.Perhaps if the offish weren't just as secretive about what that plan is, we would all be happier. What's wrong with the club, for example ,stating, "yes, we're currently looking for a striker " - they don't have to give details that might jepardise the deal but equally , getting information about anything is like getting blood from a stone at the minute.

Are we looking at getting a replacement keeper, full back cover etc.I don't agree with DM's assessment of Camp either for the same reason's as QPR4me but what indeed if cerny get's an injury?

Madge was quoted earlier this week on Vital I think as saying "we have a few brand's in the fire" - I , for one hope so or else we can look forward to another season of what might have been.

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posted Jul 4, 2009

Belfast - "...we have a few brands in the fire"
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Just heard we're going sign Jo Brand. Oh well, at least the quality of the half time entertainment will improve...

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posted Jul 4, 2009

I must say I'm shocked by the responses to this article; they seem unnecessarily harsh. DM is clearly making the financial argument for the transfer not the footballing one. He certainly not talking ‘carp’ as QPR4Me said. This is officially an ‘undisclosed fee’ so this level of detail is very enlightening even if you do not agree with the editorial conclusions he draws.

As with DM I think Paladini has done pretty well here. He has maximised a return for the club freeing up budget for other signings. From my limited understanding Camp never had a problem with Paladini and if anything he was more sympathetic to Camp’s position than others at LR. It would appear on the surface that Camp fell out with the board and Ian Dowie, despite our turnover of managers last season which often mends these types of rifts I don’t think the relationship ever fully recovered.

I was rather shocked and a tad annoyed when Cerny ran out onto the pitch for the first game of the last season. Camp had probably been our best player the previous season. Cerny had been playing in the premiership the previous season so on balance the decision didn’t seem so ridiculous. I think the feeling around LR was that Cerny will slip up, as all players do, and Camp would get his chance and keep the jersey when he did.

Unfortunately stories emanating from the club seemed to suggest that Cerny had been guaranteed 1st team football when he signed so ID was put under pressure to play him. From that point on Camp seemed to lose heart, quite understandably in my opinion, and his exit was the inevitable conclusion.

It is very sad. Camp was one of the main reasons we got promoted from League One and I don’t think he was treated anywhere near fairly.

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posted Jul 7, 2009

I despair when I read articles like this. Like DavidM I share the belief that Camp is the better of the two keepers on our books. Regardless of this, it is a simple fact that Camp is the only one with age on his side and the potential to develop. Let's not forget, Lee Camp has already excelled with QPR - he was the keeper who got us into this division, saved us from relegation, and gave Martin Rowlands a run for Player of the Year in 2008. To lose him for such a tiny fee - or indeed anywhere near his market value - is a sad day for QPR.

But what's even sadder is the single, simple line in DavidM's article:

"Camp was simply not going to play for QPR this season."

Let's analyse that. Why? We have just appointed a manager - not a head coach, but a single man supposedly solely responsible for all team affairs. This new manager has never been in charge of either keeper, never seen them train, never compared like-for-like in action. Yet we're being told that Camp was never going to be given the chance to impress.

That to me suggests decisions are still being made by the wrong people. And that's what's wrong at QPR.

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